What is your general opinion about the dervish....

fatelord

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

Saudi Arabia

P/W

Do you like the profession? hate it ?

What should be nerfed or given to them? and how are they in general PVE and PVP ..

This is not for info ...just opinions so no wiki linking ..

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

W/

I like Dervishes. They're pretty good in PvE and PvP; but I'm more of a warrior and necromancer guy. Perma-Avatar is epic; [skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill] and [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill] are also great, especially for PvP, even if they've seem to fallen out of favor.

iVendetta

iVendetta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Where no man has ever gone before.

Syndicate Nightmare [SyN]

I love Dervishes. It is the first class I chose to explore Guild Wars with. I think the wind prayers line should be given better skills due to lack of favor. ;d

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I'd like to see them nerfed, but Warriors' Endurance, Palm Strike and Primal Rage should come before that.

Saying that, perma avatar is pretty cool for the style. Wooden chick, four-faced chick, some faggy warlord, a green dude with the skull of an animal I can't remember for a head and some blue chick.

CoonerTheRed

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

da Big Apple

The Amazon Basin

D/

Dervs are fine for PvE, but they don't cut it in PvP anymore. To fix this:

- a few minor boosts to the wind line (better stats at lower investment and/or decent IAS to avoid having to spec huge mysticism for HoF). This would give the derv more utility, and make the wind line less like a gimped non-primary strength line.

- (ok, this is PvE) make the earth line a little stronger as well, with more (or simply less-conditional) defensive boosts. Earth + Mysticism should make a good tank... at the moment, it only serves as minor protection for when your monks are bad.

- i want knockdown! knockdown knockdown knockdown! and an interrupt... seriously, no interrupts? Warriors have like 18 counting KDs, even sins have like 6.
Maybe something in the wind line... Contemptuous Breeze, Distracting Gust, something. (haha, ok, i fail at inventing names). KDs + snares + interrupts are a great part of the game, and a derv only has a few reasonable snares and none of the rest... everyone else has a least two of the three. Give me Inquisitor's Touch (Mysticism), 5e, 10 recharge, Lose one enchant. If an enchant is removed, target touched foe is KDed for 0..2..3 seconds.

- no real complaints about scythe/mysticism line, but in order to truely make a derv viable in PvP again, the trend of giving ridiculous boosts to warrior/assassin elites to increase the overall damage output of a single character has got to stop. Dervs make for good pressure and are good against active defense; pressure and active defense is pretty pointless right now thanks to huge number of defense-oriented passive skills in a standard 64 skill deck.

LemonLame

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

Kentucky

Black Dragon Mercinaries [Merc]

P/

I personally think they're over hyped. Everyone jumps all over Dervish just because they look like the Grim Reaper. Granted they do look cool, that's not all what you should base your class on. With a slow attack speed and 70 armor, it's just not anything that currently has potential in some of the more advanced areas of Player vs Player. Assassins create spike damage, and have the ability to sneak out when things get too dangerous. Dervishes have survivability enchantments, however it's not going to cut through some of the heavy damage that takes place in the front line.

Lyynyyrd

Lyynyyrd

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2008

Aussie Trolling Crew - Spah!

I love Dervishes and would love to play one, however, they can only be made in Nightfall and so I'll never have one.

Codin The Great

Codin The Great

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2008

You will never know!!!!

Guardians of Hades [GoH]

W/E

i like dervishes a lot. they got nice skills and some sweet armor. I like looks of armor. But Anet could have made them better.

iVendetta

iVendetta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Where no man has ever gone before.

Syndicate Nightmare [SyN]

Its not really the look everyone's trying to achieve here, Lem. It is just their playing style which make them unique from any other profession. Who ever expected that ANET would use "members of Sufi Muslim ascetic religious Tariqah, known for their extreme poverty and austerity, similar to mendicant friars in Christianity or Hindu/Buddhist/Jain sadhus, also called fakirs amongst Muslims" as a class in Guild Wars?

Other classes are pretty much the base, if you will, of typical MMORPG's. (Excluding mesmer, paragon, dervish, and ritualist).

ac1inferno

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

A/W

Dervishes are fun, but mostly for gimmick. Warriors are just far more balanced.

kostolomac

kostolomac

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

Serbia

Me/

They are "meh" to me. They are a good class like any other but I just don't really enjoy playing them.

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

N/

Seeing as how dervish is my main character, I hate em.

fatelord

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

Saudi Arabia

P/W

Yes they are unfortunately a bit gimped ..perhaps due to the fact that they are the newest class ...I dunno..... they are very cool looking but the assassins and warriors do everything they do better .....even at wielding scythes ....

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

dervishes are just warriors with uberdamage, but lacking the awesomeness.

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

Wannabe warriors in a dress.

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz View Post
dervishes are just warriors with uberdamage, but lacking the awesomeness.
Well spoken; couldn't say it better or in Cooner's words ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by CoonerTheRed View Post
... knockdown knockdown knockdown! and an interrupt...

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

I'm a huge fan -- while mine's still fledgling (lvl 17), it's a blast to play. Auto aoe naturally has it's appeal.

I agree fully with the lack of interrupt statement, though.... went D/W specifically just so I could bring [distracting blow] with me. [whirlwind attack] is nice, too, though

Sierraa

Sierraa

Supastar~ ???

Join Date: May 2006

USA [GMT -7]

Sierraas Asian Harem [love]

Me/

I really don't like melee classes anyway, but I like playing derv for random things like orders, or healing or something. :P Plus I <3 their armor.

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

The more experience I get, the more "meh" the dervish is.

pingu666

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

guildhall

[DETH]

i find teh energy management difficult on them :/, specialy as i like to spam :x

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

a dervish is a warrior whose effectiveness is inversely proportional to the opposing team's skill. what's not to like?

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

Dervishes are still used in pvp, just not as a scythe wielder. The inherent property of hitting up to two additional adjacent foes when attacking, at the very core, means that they will never be good at melee in PvP. Sure, you get the occasional [Avatar of Lyssa] attack spammer, or some other gimmick build, but in general, they are not good in PvP because of players' knowledge of the concept: "Do NOT Ball-Up!".

With AI lacking this concept, PvE gets totally wtfpwned by Scythes, and the fact that they can keep up avatars permanently (which add insane armor) and AI's tendency to target only 1 foe (tanking), Dervishes > PvE

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

just chillin

Omg Gwen Is Legal [EotN]

i like my derv. monument red+black is epic
[wounding strike] is one of the sickest melee elites in the game. spammable bleeding+deepwound=awesome.
[Avatar of Lyssa]



Mysticism- Whenever an Enchantment ends, you gain 1 Health for each rank of Mysticism and 1 Energy for every 3 ranks of Mysticism.


Basic Dervish armor provides up to 70 armor, 5 extra energy, 25 extra health and 2 extra energy recovery.




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obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Used to be my favorite prof,

now its Monks>>rangers>> dervs

if dervs has rupts they would be win

and if onslaught was 33% attack, run

Lusciious

Lusciious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM

Order of [Thay]

N/

i'd say a dervish is a hybrid . a dervish can tank almost as well as a warrior but with 4 energy regen , just like a castor , thus being able to use builds like e.g. http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Any/A_Vanguard_Spiker . dervs can run and thats a fact , even better than warriors in some areas , with 130 farming , they can farm more places than warriors although slower. common places like UW can be farmed too. a derv however can never beat a warrior in pvp if you were to talk about its skill bar. apparently warriors have more varieties e.g. a hammer , spear , sword , axe , daggers ( if you're using WE ) whereas for a derv , you can only use a scythe , spear ( if you're a support DP using this build http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/...t_Spearchucker ) a staff if you're planning to heal and daggers if you want to spike with Avatar of lyssa. yeah dervishes are cool , thats a fact but warriors are cool too with their primeval armor and elite gladiator.

Daenara

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

Mo/

To sum up this thread, some people like Dervish's, some people don't. Some people like other professions, and everyone likes a guy in a dress.

Go play a Dervish, and make up your own mind.