Make AB More Organized

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Make Alliance Battles be as GvG but then for the whole Alliance.

like ranks and ratings for your Alliance.

and monthly tournaments.

and make the npcs have 200% more health.

Just a thought.

Do not reply to this thread use the " Poll "

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Definitely signed, when it's implemented next to existing AB. I don't think it's gonna happen though.

Just don't implement ANY form of ladder, rank, title or whatever, GW has enough of that shit and we all know what it leads to (people flashing mooses in my face, 'seriuz business' title farmers, elitism, lame builds).

Sry if I replied anyways, but some questions can't be answered with just 'yes' or 'no'.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

/not signed.

"Alliance Battles" refers to the Kurzik Alliance vs the luxon alliance (always has, always will). After all, the end result of ABs is which alliance (Kurzick or luxon) has control of the most territory.

Omgopolis

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

W/

i'd rather just be able to pick the two teams you go in with for more organized ab, so instead of having 3 mates that don't suck and 8 random people on your side you could do an epic organized 12v12 battle.

Throwing in ranks and ratings for something as unawesome as the current AB system is a waste of time and effort.

kostolomac

kostolomac

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

Serbia

Me/

/signed if there is no rank, title or something special besides kurzick/luxon faction, balth faction and fun.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

you must be kurzick, whenever i'm on kurzick side it's invite some people go in and have fun

luxon side is srs bsns, make a carefully balanced group with monks organized on vent. hell, for ab that's pretty organized. ridiculous, but organized.

but anyways ab isn't serious pvp, i like to consider it cooperative pve, so i'm gonna have to vote no.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Daily and Monthly tournaments to transform AB much like the Snowball ATs did for Snowball would be cool.

Ranks and ratings might be okay, and faction rewards could be boosted a little bit too, but I certainly wouldn't want to see any new rewards coming out for this, like an emote being released for the Kurzick/Luxon track post-implementation of a tournament. Also, I'd much rather see the NPCs health/energy/bar/etc stay the same.

Also, if you decide to go with a ranking system, I'm not sure who should be holding the rankings: individual guilds, the alliance leader, or the whole alliance.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

AB is 12-v-12. To make it like GvG, you would need to have at least 6 people from the same alliance present. Since you can only form up with 4 on a team, and hope for 2 other teams for your 12, that won't happen without a change in how you make teams for a match. Finding 12 people is not terribly easy, even when there are large numbers of people present.

Alliances already have 'ranks'. It is called Faction. The alliances that have the most own towns. And the towns that are owned are based on who has the most. So if you want a gold trim cape, be the best GvG team. If you want Cavalon/House Zu Heltzer, be the best alliance at gaining Faction.

Monthly tournaments..... sounds like you want a way to get more free Z-keys from Xunlai House.

200% more health for NPCs. Although this would make an interesting change, I don't see the point in it. Matches are won by controlling the shrines. NPCs have to be killed to do this. Making them harder to kill would make matches become slow and boring. Or do you want people to get a score by killing other players? That would take a lot of kills.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

i'm all for having a competitive form of AB but there's no need to take away the current version of it to implement one.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Screw that, I enjoyed AB the most when it was 12v12 random during the preview, like a gigantic version of RA. We have two serious PvP areas; leave AB alone as the jokey arena it is. It is one of the best (read: least boring) ways of getting K/L points, which PvE chars care most about, and changing it to "serious" PvP would kill that.

lewis91

lewis91

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Wales

Order of the Azurelight[OA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d View Post
you must be kurzick, whenever i'm on kurzick side it's invite some people go in and have fun

luxon side is srs bsns, make a carefully balanced group with monks organized on vent. hell, for ab that's pretty organized. ridiculous, but organized.

but anyways ab isn't serious pvp, i like to consider it cooperative pve, so i'm gonna have to vote no.
Lol so true. Used to be on luxon for a while, and it was all "Need monk to go" "need ele to go" on kurzick side its all "Need one to go" and then upon entry on luxon side you get people commanding you "Right your group go here, take that shrine, then move to that shrine AVOID FIGHTING" on kurzick sides "GL HF"

I do like the kurzick side more due to the fact that most of them are there just to have fun.

And i too like AB the way it is. So sorry but /notsigned mainly because the fact that its unorganised is the fact thats keeping it fun.

JASON626

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

I'd rather have them change shrine sizes and npcs and npc positioning. solo capping is kinda meh, ele nukes runs in..

AB more competitive sounds wierd. or just talking add stats?

If ab was 3 teams on vent organized it might be alittle bit too competitive. Most paople that ab like to for relaxed pvp.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Although I think that AB could have been better in many ways. I don't see your ways as the ways.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lewis91 View Post
I do like the kurzick side more due to the fact that most of them are there just to have fun.
I think it's just that Luxons think winning is more fun.

/signed for more organisation, though it'd depend on what sort (i.e, don't like your suggestions).

Kawil

Kawil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

{Hawk}-->The Aerie Alliance

N/Me

More organized? Voted no on that. You want organization then go do real GvG, HA or TA. As it is, AB is starting to get build picky like those aforementioned. When I AB I like to go in and relax while cuttin' down some real peeps. All in fun for me.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Don't change how the current AB system works, it's fine. But a more organized version with more srs rewards would be awesome. I'd really love to play it in a fully organized 12man team instead of having to play with clueless randoms, but this format should stay as it is for many reasons. The organized version would have to be separate.

I fully support making a way for organized AB matches for better prizes, making them real Alliance Battles - battles between real Alliances! Reward (at least) triple faction for players (double faction during this x2 weekend is comparable to normal FA/JQ gains, so for rare special and competetive matches it would have to be higher) and additional bonus faction going straight to the winning Alliance pool. And those battles should have more effect on the moving border than the randoms. That's how I hoped Alliance Battles would look like when first advertised and was initially disappointed.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

I personally find AB boring as hell.
In a GOOD group all you do is cap shrines and occasionally kill a player.
If AB is to change I'd rather see it be actual PvP where you have to kill each other and take out shrines all together.
Should definitely keep the whole Kurz/Lux is more fun , better to play or Kurz/Luxon Mob(guess what they both do) out of topic imo because that will go no where. I myself find it more organized on Kurz side but others find it more on Lux so that argument can not be won.
/signed for AB change
/Not signed for how OP wants it done.

Deadshot Seven

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/

Get rid of shrines and make it a gigantic death match or don't award points based on shrines capped, just certain boosts (Such as battle cry, etc.).
Lower the score once its turned into a death match or award more point per kill.
Or at least add some new maps into the rotation to mess around with.
/signed for the change, but not the way the op wants it.

Elle Bishop

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Death by [Emo], And Haus of [GaGa]

E/Me

\Signed I've been wanting this for a ranking/ratings for a very long time.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade View Post
I think it's just that Luxons think winning is more fun.
*Watches map stay on Kaanai Canyon for the entire AB weekend*

Yeah man, that must be it.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Getting 12 people that you know to play is going to be complete hell. Getting any less than that would basically put you as a disadvantage, so this format is going to be played as much as TA, whereas normal AB would be played as much as RA.

Hanging Man

Hanging Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Deep in the Shire

ha i love how random and unorganized it is
AB is the fun area of pvp.
where you can do stupid builds and usually win

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

This would have been good at the release of Factions, but it would barely work now. Getting a team of 12 players would be a pain in the ass. Then finding an enemy alliance to fight would take forever. Not worth it anymore.

glacialphoenix

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

Quote:
*Watches map stay on Kaanai Canyon for the entire AB weekend*

Yeah man, that must be it.
It just dropped to Saltspray, barely moments after I entered because I saw it at Etnaran. *sad Kurzick. I gotta say I haven't seen it stay in Lux territory so long for quite a while, though - seems like the double faction = great incentive to play better for X4 and X6 faction rates.

OP: I - seriously doubt you'd find enough people for this to work, usually because of the imbalances in numbers during the different maps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
200% more health for NPCs. Although this would make an interesting change, I don't see the point in it. Matches are won by controlling the shrines. NPCs have to be killed to do this. Making them harder to kill would make matches become slow and boring. Or do you want people to get a score by killing other players? That would take a lot of kills.
Well said.