sabway really worth it?

To understand sabway stop looking at the team seperatly - you need to see how they work in unison.Each necro has a key role to aid the others ( and you ).
Your ele/mes heros would struggle in a lot of places specially with aoe scatter - sabway hasnt really anything to cause scatter.
Also if on sabway you switch jagged bones for aol its a lot easier.
I run sabway with a few mods - i have 2 aol mm`s and 1 ss necro and this ensures that after a few mins i have an army to pulverise any foes stupid enough not to run away.
Also in a 4 man zone sabway team is great - your stuck with a 4 man team ( eles and mes ) where again us sabway users would have in a few mins of fighting say 10 man team ( including minions ).
Both sabway and discordway are adaptable and can be switched to cover almost any map on gw.
Personally ive done factions/eotn and prophs using sabway and i was a/d fighter and i seriously enjoyed it - no having to micro heros as they got on with the job.
n/rt healers have a slight advantage over monk healers - serious amounts of energy gain , we all know monks can heal more but also can run out of energy fast and then team struggles.
Ive also noticed that somehow monks will try and heal minions wasting nrg where n/rt wont waste healing minions.

Like majority here have said - either try sabway yourself or find someone who uses it and ask to tag along and see it in action.
IF sabway didnt work it would have been forgotten by now and unused within gw but your stated urself you keep reading about it - that means it must work.
(All us sabway users shud mob up an teach the disbelievers a lesson :P)

sabway, combined with BHA for Dazed= pretty much permainterrupt on any boss. That's FTW vs ele and monk bosses in HM.

PS, it's not a gimmick, it's called synergy...

Once I put Sabway together, I never looked back. I have been vanqing and carting and watching the maxed titles mount.

I will say that it is a mindless setup. I know a get a little sleepy sometimes because it can be so BORING!

I am all for someone coming up with more exciting ways to put a team together, but if you just want to mow down all foes, go with sabway, FTW!

Once I put Sabway together, I never looked back. I have been vanqing and carting and watching the maxed titles mount.

I will say that it is a mindless setup. I know a get a little sleepy sometimes because it can be so BORING!

I am all for someone coming up with more exciting ways to put a team together, but if you just want to mow down all foes, go with sabway, FTW!

i can't think of many areas in pve where energy was an issue...

most of the fun in pve comes from trying different builds, so i'm definately going to try it.

i'll admit my initial thought about the sabway was that it was just a simple build template which became like the bible for noobs.

i'd seen lots of people talk about using sabway, but never actually read about the general performance. i was interested to read your replies.

lol @ Healer's Boon trumping N/Rt healer Healer's Boon is terrible with heroes.

Put it this way: N/Rt - infinite energy can spam heals all day long. SS - combine with increased attack speed of mobs on hard mode + defense it provesfrom reckless and enfeebling.

SF eles are absolutely horrible for hard mode as they deal no damage.

But honestly Sab's loses out to Discord atm, alot.

I have been trying alot of different hero setups (on RoJ way atm) and i believe that sabway and discord way are the best that i have tried so far. They are the easiest for lazy people to go AFK and also like everyone else has said the infinite energy is an added bonus.

The only places I've had troubles with Sabway are in the desolation for Nightfall. However, that's because those places make you jump inside a wurm and having them die several times (and wrack up the DP) before the Necros get a chance to use a real skill bar.

Heroes are dumb. Dumb heroes with infinite energy>>>>dumb heroes with finite energy.

Paragon and Rangers are also quite good heroes, but they are frail like every physical to hexes/conditions and henchies don't pack much in that way.

Sabway is pretty awesome. The last few vanquishes I did were with the discord variant, but before that I used the standard restore-mm-curser, each with a copy of splinter weapon. Splinter weapon x3 is pretty sexy.

i played through eotn on my monk as a echo ray of judgement, had some split discord/sabway thing going on, think i had 3 discorders, and took 2 henchie monks, a melee dude, and my ranger on my other account tagged along too (afking)

only had trouble in one or two spots, in destruction depths was the worst, died then had the destroyers in a large pack between me and the golems

1 con about sabway is that it can be slow at times, Olias lags behind to cast spells on all of his minions often. For that reason I'm running different builds. But yeah, it's more or less a cookie cutter and it works fine.

It's actually a modded HA build .

Sabway is awesomeness for sure, but boring as far as I am concerned... It steam rolls, but I still prefer molding my heroes to suite what I am doing and what I wanna accomplish... If I run my paragon, I use 2 hero paras, War, same thing... Currently on my necro using AP, MoP, EVAS, and running a RoJ monk, Spear Koss and MM...

So to answer the OP, Sabway is really worth it, but at the same time, so is discord, paraway, rojway and usingyourownbrainstomakeyourownteambuildsway...

Why 3 Splinter Weapons? o_O

Ok youre going in melee but I doubt Mhenlo or Cynn will benefit from it.

the 3-necro builds are good only because of soul reaping and versitility. Also it depends on the builds and combinations. Like when i use sabway, I (a warrior) use 2 healers w/ splinter and 1 mm w/ dwaynas sorrow & hex removal. I didnt find the curses necro too useful.

I have to recommend discords though, just need to find the right builds (many variants on guru being discussed). AP not required but useful for effectiveness. Though this requires a little more attention than sabway.

The only weakness of Sabway I have found is those first few mobs, but once your MM has minions enough to provide energy it becomes EZmode. I personally dont run it that often, because I enjoy actually doing something.

Sabway is good, but is by no means the best h/h setup.

Back in the day, it WAS pretty much cream of the crop, but now you have, stuff like discord, RoJ, VoR and AotL....

Sabway still rocks 95% of GW and is self-synergizing, so it doesn't really matter what build YOU take. But you CAN do better if you bother to synergize your bar with your heroes.

Personally, my main is a Necro and I do discordway or RoJway. I play an AP caller for discordway and a SS or MoP nuker + Battle Standard of Wisdom with RoJway.

For dungeons 2-man, I sometimes take along GWEN with VoR or tease, but it's rarely necessary.

All these builds can be found on PvX, though most would say they are sub-optimal variations. You are rarely going to find people who are in agreement with every skill choice, so it's best to just roll with it and use as much common sense as you can.