Goodbye Martin and Peter (and the others)! - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

12 Feb 2009 at 12:20 - 1

Well, the news is out:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...#Restructuring

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

Like all the community managers at NCsoft West Europe, they've unfortunately been let go. D-: It was a pretty big shock to all of us, to be honest.

Your contribution to this community has been invaluable, it's beyond words, yet we'll convey our feelings here (and maybe in London this week-end). Martin, Peter and the rest of NC soft West Europe CR/Ms. We've lost great people, I hope you'll find new homes where you'll continue to be happy with your job and make players happy too.

Cheers guys, it's been a great ride. Hope we'll see you in-game to cheer you up and share memories.

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

12 Feb 2009 at 13:29 - 2

Thank you for all your hard work. You will be sorely missed by all. Good luck in the future.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

12 Feb 2009 at 14:12 - 3

When they leaving? Does this mean we get another Gaile style fairwell party in game

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

12 Feb 2009 at 14:18 - 4

It's never good to see anyone lose their job, especially people that have put in so much time/effort into a game we all love.

As an aside, this means that we are going to actually get WORSE support for the game, which seems like it would be very difficult to do.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

12 Feb 2009 at 14:27 - 5

And they will be missed.

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

12 Feb 2009 at 14:33 - 6

I believe Regina when she says this will improve the efficiency of Anet. NCsoft, along with the rest of the world, is in a tough economic situation and it is better for NCsoft to concentrate their resources on shipping GW2.

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

12 Feb 2009 at 14:43 - 7

I wish all those who have lost their jobs the best of luck during theses hard times and hope you find new employment soon.

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

12 Feb 2009 at 15:05 - 8

Good luck in searching for a new job. Thank you for all your work!

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

12 Feb 2009 at 15:10 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

You will be sorely missed by all.

And that's an understatement. Thank you both for all your hard work.

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

12 Feb 2009 at 15:14 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

I spoke to Peter earlier and he's trying to stay in good spirits. Martin and the others all went to the pub after the news.

I'd throw a round or 50 if I would have been there ... cheers guys!
All the best to you and I am pretty sure we'll hear from you lads ...

Keep on rocking!

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

12 Feb 2009 at 15:34 - 11

Good luck to you all in your future endeavors.

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

12 Feb 2009 at 15:35 - 12

Best of Luck!

Ghengis Kwell

Baby Maker

Join Date: Jun 2007

UK

Sent Fromhell

D/W

12 Feb 2009 at 16:02 - 13

Here's hoping that before too long you are back slaving away behind a desk/keyboard!

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

12 Feb 2009 at 16:04 - 14

Bye.

Thanks for everything.

Slash From The Shadows

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

Guardians Of The Shiverpeaks

A/E

12 Feb 2009 at 16:11 - 15

Good Luck in your New Life !

pingu666

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

guildhall

[DETH]

12 Feb 2009 at 16:49 - 16

goodluck
big shame

Kay84

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Netherlands

[DVDF]

E/

12 Feb 2009 at 16:58 - 17

Always sucks to hear people lose their jobs. Thank you for all the hard work, it's much appreciated. Good luck in the future!

dustbunny

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

12 Feb 2009 at 18:03 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmithyBen

When they leaving? Does this mean we get another Gaile style fairwell party in game

Let me put this to you in perspective:

Read the newspapers. Understand how bad the economies all over the world are. Understand that there are people committing suicide because of the financial stress and job loss. Comprehend that this is two people loosing their jobs. They may have people counting on them to support them. They may have wives, mortgages, children, etc to take care of.

And you are asking when their misfortune will get you a chance to advance your title in a video game?

Vel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

12 Feb 2009 at 18:11 - 19

Martin and Peter (and the others) -- My heart goes out to you all. Only thing we can do is wish you all the very best. May God be with you as you take care of your loved ones. Thanks again for all your effort. I am very sad to see how greed of some billionaires mess up lives of millions.

Good Luck!

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

12 Feb 2009 at 18:31 - 20

This NCSoft restructuring is a bit frightening, given the fact that we hear next to nothing about Guild Wars 2.

While I feel sympathy for Peter and Martin, we should not betray ourselves. I often wondered what they were actually doing. They were either never given any information or never allowed to reveal it to the public. Organization of beverages at the Games Convention and skimming forums cannot really be the point of a community manager, sorry. No wonder that they were seen as redundant.

I also wonder about Regina's supposed workload. Whatever she is doing, it is for sure not spoiling too much information about GW2.

Maybe she is right and the better communication due to all departments working in the same building will improve the interaction/communication between CM, players and developers. Maybe in finally some news about GW2...

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

12 Feb 2009 at 18:44 - 21

I couldn't speak my mind or the extent of my feelings in that formal public message that I had to write yesterday. It was a shock, an absolute shock. I'm feeling sad for Martin and Peter and everyone else at NCsoft Europe. There are a lot of other feelings that I'm keeping inside... But I will say that I feel gutted about this.

The only thing that I can really do, and which I have already said to them privately, is express my sincere appreciation for them and their work, as well as their friendship. It's not like we aren't going to keep talking to each other, but it's sad that we won't have this work in common anymore.

I know they're watching this thread, so Martin and Peter, good luck to you.

Sir Scorn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

12 Feb 2009 at 18:53 - 22

I am positive two talented individuals like Martin and Peter will land on their feet. Keep your spirits and head up high.

ButterMeUp

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

England

Cookie Rehab Clinic [LAME]

12 Feb 2009 at 19:49 - 23

That's terrible, best of luck guys. I truly hope you find a job that suits you soon, such a fate should never be imposed upon anyone, let alone two people who have given so much time to something so many people love.

Thank you.

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

12 Feb 2009 at 19:56 - 24

Many thanks for what you've done, for all the hard work, and the product it became and evolved into - the Guild Wars that we have all spent much time enjoying.

Thoughts, prayers, and meditations be with you all during the challenges ahead.

Regards,

Nihilist

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

12 Feb 2009 at 20:12 - 25

Good luck guys, thx for everything that you done for the community! Hopefully it won't take long for you guys to get another job.

Again, thanks for all your hard work!

Eduhard

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

X Knock Out X [KO]

Me/

12 Feb 2009 at 20:34 - 26

Peter posted this @ spanish fansite:

---original---

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORIGINAL

Antes de nada muchísimas gracias por vuestros mensajes, tengo que admitir que animan muchísimo.

Por otro lado, como espero podréis entender, ando muuuy corto de tiempo (básicamente tengo que buscar trabajo :P). Así que de momento me voy a quedar con lo esencial, y ya haré una despedida en condiciones más adelante.

Si, es cierto, han despedido a mucha gente (70-80 personas) aquí en la oficina Europea de NCsoft. Entre otros, TODO el equipo de comunidad ha sido declarado "redundant", y por lo tanto mi trabajo aquí acabará pronto.

Ahora bien, prometo que, siempre que tenga tiempo para ello, seguiré pasándome por el foro, aunque sera como usuario normal, claro.

Ya os informaré cuando tengo mas noticias de a donde me voy en el futuro.

Un saludo, y una vez más, ¡gracias por todo!

---translation---

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANSLATION

First of all many thanks for your messages, I have to admit that encourage a lot

On the other hand, I guess you can understand, I have no time (basically I have to look for a new job :P). So for now I'm going to stay with the essentials, and I will make a farewell later

Yes, it is true, they've fired many people (70-80) here at the European office of NCsoft. Community team has been declared "redundant", and therefore my work here will end soon.

But I promise that whenever I have time, I will visit the forums, as a normal user of course.

I will inform you when I have more news on where I go in the future.

Take care, and once again, thanks for everything!

I'm sorry if the translation is not accurate

Good luck Peter, good job man !!!!!

Stuart444

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Alexandria, Scotland

The Charter Vanguard [CV]

W/

12 Feb 2009 at 20:53 - 27

Spoke to my gf about this earlier on and well...too sum up both of our feelings, we feel really bad for both Martin and Peter along with everyone else.

*sighs*

All I can really say is, good luck to you guys. keep optimistic and I hope everything turns out okay for yous

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

12 Feb 2009 at 20:55 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

This NCSoft restructuring is a bit frightening, given the fact that we hear next to nothing about Guild Wars 2.

While I feel sympathy for Peter and Martin, we should not betray ourselves. I often wondered what they were actually doing. They were either never given any information or never allowed to reveal it to the public. Organization of beverages at the Games Convention and skimming forums cannot really be the point of a community manager, sorry. No wonder that they were seen as redundant.

I also wonder about Regina's supposed workload. Whatever she is doing, it is for sure not spoiling too much information about GW2.

Maybe she is right and the better communication due to all departments working in the same building will improve the interaction/communication between CM, players and developers. Maybe in finally some news about GW2...

I don't think this thread is about or should be about what we feel about ANET(NCSoft) and it what it means for us. This is a thread to express our sincere thoughts and good will to those who have lost there jobs. It is not time to think about ourselves, but the misfortune of others.

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

12 Feb 2009 at 21:38 - 29

Oh I remember them....weren't they the only Anet people who ever posted at the Guild Hall?

Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

I'm surprised anybody is shocked about this though...hasn't NCsoft been having problems lately? Not to mention the global economy right now is pretty garbage.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

12 Feb 2009 at 22:11 - 30

Well, from private knowledge, I know Martin had one hell of a hangover this morning... but he had a good laugh about it

I hope Martin and Peter find something soon and as I already said to Martin but will say again for Peter too, good luck guys and chat soon I hope!

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

12 Feb 2009 at 22:38 - 31

Martin and Peter and the others, gently show NCsoft the middle finger.

I hear England has an ok system for people loosing their job, so enjoy a bit of your free time to load yourself up to find a nice job again where you can feel good and be yourself guys.

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

12 Feb 2009 at 23:18 - 32

I know how tough this must be on all those let go, Martin and Peter included. Thanks for all the hard work you've put in. While the community doesn't always show it, we really do appreciate the work you all put in. You will be missed, and the best of luck with your future endeavours.

Billiard

Doctor of Philosophy

Join Date: May 2005

Pacific Northwest

Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us

12 Feb 2009 at 23:34 - 33

Best of luck to Peter and Martin and the rest of the NCSoft Europe crew.

Martin was the only one I had much interaction with, and I can honestly say that he has been super for the community both here and in Europe. He was always accessible and helpful for some pretty sticky situations. When we held the Guild Wars Guru Challenge last summer he was the only NCSoft or ArenaNet official online when we ran into trouble with a guild, and he ably helped avert what could have been a catastrophe.

Please keep in touch guys as you move on, hopefully to bigger and better things!

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

12 Feb 2009 at 23:44 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vel

I am very sad to see how greed of some billionaires mess up lives of millions.

You need to just keep playing games and avoid the complexity of the real world, which appears to exceed your comprehension.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

12 Feb 2009 at 23:47 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

You need to just keep playing games and avoid the complexity of the real world, which appears to exceed your comprehension.

I did think it, but you were both quicker and more ballsy to post it before me... cheers Martin

Taki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

N/Me

12 Feb 2009 at 23:51 - 36

that's pretty messed up. Martin is like only person there who could beat Jesus in a race for employee of the month.

hope something worthwhile comes up soon

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

13 Feb 2009 at 01:15 - 37

Thank you for your hard work and effort. You will be missed!

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

13 Feb 2009 at 03:51 - 38

Thank you both, and everyone at NCSoft Europe, for your hard work and dedication to the game.

warrior running

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Cape Is A Lie[Trim]

W/E

13 Feb 2009 at 04:24 - 39

Goodluck to you all,thank you

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

13 Feb 2009 at 06:06 - 40

It's a hard thing, when events like this happen and i'm sure they and everyone else affected will wake up this morning feeling numb.

I'm sure everyone wishes you the best and also hopes you use this to spingboard you onto bigger and better things.