Feb. 2009 PC Gamer - MMO's You've Got To Try

Nightow

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16 Feb 2009 at 03:47 - 1
From: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cf...Gotta-Try.html

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Originally Posted by JK-Kanosi

This is taken from the Feb. 2009 Issue of PC Gamer.

The following MMO's were listed as being the top 9 best and biggest, listed from smallest to largest MMORPG.

9. AoC

8. EQ2

7. SWG

6. CoX

5. GW

4. WAR

3. EvE

2. LoTRO

1. WoW
I just figured people here might be interested in this article as it pertains to GW's "health" as people like to call it. Feel free to discuss.

Inde

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16 Feb 2009 at 04:04 - 2
K this discussion got thrown off a bit in the course of some PM's (thank you Nightow!), but the overall message is that PC Gamer posted about the "Top MMO's You've Got To Try" and Guild Wars made the list.

I disagree with the list, the fact that Lineage/2 or FFXI didn't make the list is topic for discussion since they both have #'s higher then some of the other MMO's listed.

Just to clarify the message above though, because this is a valid discussion, with more information from the thread and the PC Gamer mag:

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....I have the PC gamer issue in question and the OP is mistaken about the game rankings. The magazine never ranked these games, there are no numbers next to the games....for some reason the OP chose to rank them from the lower right to upper left of the page, reading right to left. If one takes even a moment to look at the article, you can see they were listed ALPHABETICALLY, reading from top to bottom.
This quote is also interesting in regards to the piece:
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I think some people are missing the point about the PC Gamer "MMOs You've Got To Try" list. I took another look at this month's PC Gamer, and in the fine print I saw the word "advertorial." Which means that all the big MMOG companies - Blizzard, NCSoft, Sony, EA, etc - paid PC Gamer money to get their games listed among the "best" MMOGs on the market. Really, PC Gamer is not making any true distinctions between the games, but hyping them equally since their developers essentially took out a giant ad. Heck, Guild Wars gets to be an "MMOG" because ArenaNet (or NCSoft) paid for their placement on the list.

In the very same issue, PC Gamer rates WOW as best massively multiplayer game of the year, and then goes on to list a crazy list of stats like how the WOW nation has more players than the country of Greece has citizens. It's obviously clear that the staff view WOW as the end all and be all of MMOG s.
The implication that ArenaNet/NCSoft actually paid for some marketing... hmmm I'm not too sure about that. Could be wrong.

blue.rellik

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16 Feb 2009 at 04:25 - 3
There was a similar article in the Australian PC gaming mag, PC Powerplay this month. I had a quick look through it and they listed similar games to those above with a brief description of the game and it's history

SpiritThief

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16 Feb 2009 at 05:34 - 4
Whats CoX thats the only one I don't know

jiggles

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16 Feb 2009 at 05:38 - 5
SWG and Cox

i heard of a game called stargate worlds or summat, i think its beta hasnt been realesed yet. Anybody care to tell me what they are? ^^

Also the piece of fail that is AoC made the list? woww

Nightow

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16 Feb 2009 at 05:39 - 6
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Originally Posted by SpiritThief View Post
Whats CoX thats the only one I don't know
City of Heroes/Villains, which is also from NCSoft.

Sir Skullcrasher

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16 Feb 2009 at 06:00 - 7
SWG.. i would think that mean Star Wars Galaxy?

Well, no surprise that PC Gamer wants the public to try out WoW. Given to the fact that the game is well known in MMO.

EagleDelta1

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16 Feb 2009 at 06:27 - 8
Honestly, IMO, FFXI should have been on the list long before AoC or SWG. Yeah, SWG was popular, but being someone who's played FFXI, GW and EVE and has tried WoW - They're all far better than anything I saw in SWG and I have heard that AoC simply is not very well executed, but that's just my opinion

Society

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16 Feb 2009 at 07:22 - 9
AoC bigger then LA2 ? 1 more useless list, based on some unclear speculations...

Lonesamurai

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16 Feb 2009 at 09:24 - 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde View Post

The implication that ArenaNet/NCSoft actually paid for some marketing... hmmm I'm not too sure about that. Could be wrong.
Actually Inde, its bang on and not only in Magazines, but also in the games retailers

I used to be a manager for GAME, the biggest retailer for games in the UK and the Chart for each games console was based on advertising money each week rather than actual sales...

remember kids, charts in any retail outlet or magaizine that has advertising is usually a chart of the games companies wallets, not the game at all

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Originally Posted by jiggles View Post
SWG and Cox

i heard of a game called stargate worlds or summat, i think its beta hasnt been realesed yet. Anybody care to tell me what they are? ^^
The Stargate Worlds beta has indeed been going for quite sometime and checking the timestamp for the email when I got in shows it was back in October last year... and back then the game only had two character models for each race/class (male/female) and all the Jafarr started in underwear... T'lk looked stupid in Stargate Comand in his pants

Malice Black

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16 Feb 2009 at 12:16 - 11
Tried a few of these. So I'll rate them on my exp. AOC - Pretty, but lacks content. 4/10 GW - Best f2p MMO out. 8/10 WAR - Good. Offers a good mix of PVP and PVE without the leetness that infests GW. 8/10 WoW - Better graphics now, too much time required for me though. 7/10 COX - Boring and ugly. 2/10 EVE - Great game, but quite boring until you reach higher levels. 7/10

BenjZee

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16 Feb 2009 at 13:23 - 12
I like the look of that , gw is in the middle I still think gw is going well. Would like to try out some of those others on the list though.

Fril Estelin

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16 Feb 2009 at 14:08 - 13
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Originally Posted by SmithyBen View Post
I like the look of that , gw is in the middle I still think gw is going well. Would like to try out some of those others on the list though.
It's true, although not for the reasons we may think: see LoneSamurai's earlier post, this means that Anet/NCsoft have money to push GW onto their list (well I guess since May 2007, PCgamer probably wants to be on the edge of GW news, exclusivity deal maybe?).

Maybe it'll help the continuing selling of GW box units.

Coraline Jones

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16 Feb 2009 at 15:54 - 14
I don't know what to say about that game list. I mean, I can't imagine anybody seriously recommending EverQuest 2 as a "must try" MMORPG. Out of all the MMOs out there, I can only think of maybe just five or so that I would seriously consider trying out.

Most of the others are very dated and are basically going to be replaced if they haven't already. For instance, I think that once DC Universe Online shows up, City of Heroes/Villians will have no purpose anymore. The graphics for CoH are pretty bad in all honesty, and I didn't get the impression that the game was all that original.