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Originally Posted by Takeko Nakano
I'm complaining because I don't want any of the useless crap you listed.
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April Update Anticipation thread
aapo
street peddler
oh man its like you guys pay a monthly fee or something..
if you really want more storage, youll pay for it. shut the hell up already.
if you really want more storage, youll pay for it. shut the hell up already.
IlikeGW
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Originally Posted by street peddler
oh man its like you guys pay a monthly fee or something..
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A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
Except if you bought all 4 when they came out then it's actually a lot of money people have thrown away on Anet already you idiot.
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Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by street peddler
oh man its like you guys pay a monthly fee or something..
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Charging us for things that are not worth the cost anyways is their way of helping discourage sales of GW2 because it creates a bad impression of what's in store from them.
Snow Bunny
Honestly ArenaNet, you put absolutely no thought behind this update of yours.
It's retarded. I can buy more storage, with character slots, and the whole game, for $10, for a new account.
Here's the deal, cross the line into P2P and give us good updates, or stick to F2P completely.
It's retarded. I can buy more storage, with character slots, and the whole game, for $10, for a new account.
Here's the deal, cross the line into P2P and give us good updates, or stick to F2P completely.
Apollo Smile
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Especially considering, as I've mentioned earlier, GW doesn't offer nearly as much content and replayability as WoW does. If I was paying anywhere near as much as I would for WoW for the 4 years I've been playing GW, I'd want a whole hell of a lot more than 4 extra storage tabs.
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A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by Apollo Smile
Considering the budget differences between Blizzard and ArenaNet, i'd say Guild Wars is pretty good content wise.
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So you're saying Blizzard has a higher budget so they can give more content for the same price? That makes no sense. they have a higher budget because they charge more for stuff and give more stuff that doesn't cost them as much to give. Thing is, the ratio of content per dollar is much higher with Blizzard games. They make more money because their games deliver more value than other companies' offerings.
Forget the company budgets and look at how much the game gives for how much you pay. Guild Wars cost me half as much to play it in its current form than I'd have paid to play WoW over the same period of time, and I got far less than half the content. Company budget has nothing to do with the dollar to content ratio...Anet is pulling in cash faster than they're giving content to players. period.
Apollo Smile
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
So you're saying Blizzard has a higher budget so they can give more content for the same price? That makes no sense. they have a higher budget because they charge more for stuff and give more stuff that doesn't cost them as much to give. Thing is, the ratio of content per dollar is much higher with Blizzard games. They make more money because their games deliver more value than other companies' offerings.
Forget the company budgets and look at how much the game gives for how much you pay. Guild Wars cost me half as much to play it in its current form than I'd have paid to play WoW over the same period of time, and I got far less than half the content. Company budget has nothing to do with the dollar to content ratio...Anet is pulling in cash faster than they're giving content to players. period. |
Guild Wars - 50 bucks
Factions - 50 bucks
Nightfall - 50 bucks
Eye of the North - 40 bucks
Bonus Mission Pack - (I got for free with promotion but lets pretend I bought it) - 10 bucks
Extra Storage Panes - (Lets pretend I am going to buy them all) - 40 bucks
Total: $240.00
World of Warcraft - 50 bucks
Burning Crusade - 40 bucks
Wrath of the Lich King - 40 bucks
Subscription Fees for 3 years at 15 bucks a month - 540 bucks
Total: $670.00 (That isn't even including $25 server transfer fee I paid)
The math speaks for itself really. Guild Wars is a good value any way you try to slice it.
A11Eur0
Again your reading comprehension fails you. Try again.
Professor K
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Originally Posted by Apollo Smile
Lets see. I have played both WoW and GW for over three years. Lets do some math, shall we?
Guild Wars - 50 bucks Factions - 50 bucks Nightfall - 50 bucks Eye of the North - 40 bucks Bonus Mission Pack - (I got for free with promotion but lets pretend I bought it) - 10 bucks Extra Storage Panes - (Lets pretend I am going to buy them all) - 40 bucks Total: $240.00 World of Warcraft - 50 bucks Burning Crusade - 40 bucks Wrath of the Lich King - 40 bucks Subscription Fees for 3 years at 15 bucks a month - 540 bucks Total: $670.00 (That isn't even including $25 server transfer fee I paid) The math speaks for itself really. Guild Wars is a good value any way you try to slice it. |
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Again your reading comprehension fails you. Try again.
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But we're not "dedicated players" are we?
Apollo Smile
I play an enjoy both games for various reasons. Don't get wrong. But seriously, people tend to downplay Guild Wars a tad' to much.
street peddler
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
Except if you bought all 4 when they came out then it's actually a lot of money people have thrown away on Anet already you idiot.
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OrionVolaju
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
Except if you bought all 4 when they came out then it's actually a lot of money people have thrown away on Anet already you idiot.
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Believe me I am sure the companies wish that 50 they got from you was pure profit but in reality it was not.
Carboplatin
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
...Thing is, the ratio of content per dollar is much higher with Blizzard games...
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or what that statement just your opinion?
BurningFeetMan
w00t! More storage! Thanks Anet! 
Abedeus
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Originally Posted by BurningFeetMan
w00t! More storage! Thanks Anet!
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wu is me
Charging $10 usd for a tab of storage isn't completely retarded lol...
Chances are... hardcore players are gonna buy the storage tabs (well thats if theres any left)
It's price discrimination. You charge more to the people who are willing to pay for more. If you're a rational spender of money then you don't buy, but if your hooked... you might.
Its just the same as how the airlines charge 10x for the same ticket booked for the next day compared to a ticket booked 3 months in advance... it's not cos its harder to find the seats.
Chances are... hardcore players are gonna buy the storage tabs (well thats if theres any left)
It's price discrimination. You charge more to the people who are willing to pay for more. If you're a rational spender of money then you don't buy, but if your hooked... you might.
Its just the same as how the airlines charge 10x for the same ticket booked for the next day compared to a ticket booked 3 months in advance... it's not cos its harder to find the seats.
BurningFeetMan
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Only if you pay as much as for a new account.
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# Equipment Packs in assorted sizes, designed solely to hold weapons and armor (gear). # Every character will get a fifth slot for an Equipment Pack. |
aapo
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Only if you pay as much as for a new account.
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BurningFeetMan
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Originally Posted by aapo
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Explain with pictures, cause I like pictures.
cyber88
Not bitching or whining. Just wanted to point out a mistake from the previous pages. You don't get a free Xunlai Storage pane. According to the official website, there will most likely be a contest or something similar to win a free pane. Another way to get this "free" pane is to purchase a Xunlai Storage pane. Sort of like a buy 1 get 1 free but details will be further announced.
BenjZee
Equipment pack will entail our storybook solutions , salvage kit, identification kit slots...hopes
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by SmithyBen
Equipment pack will entail our storybook solutions , salvage kit, identification kit slots...hopes
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...urdock#Storage
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Originally Posted by Linsey
For now, the Equipment Pack won't be on the F9 screen and you will need to drag your weapons and armor over the bag and drop it to place it in the pack. Yes I know that sucks, but that is the way it needs to work for now because of the minimum resolution. If we decide to increase bag sizes (which we would like to do at some point) we will need to increase the minimum resolution available. That is one of the reasons we went with the Equipment Pack right now instead. Another is that a pack which restricts what can be put in it does save on data storage quite a bit. Once we have released these things and assessed their effect on the servers we can evaluate the need or ability to offer more storage upgrades in the future.
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zwei2stein
Also, this is interesting:
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BenjZee
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Only if you pay as much as for a new account.
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Its sort of the same situation, its not too much in price. I know alot of people prefer to have access to a storage than have to create more characters and switching amongst them can be a minor inconvenience i would rather be without.
That new equipment pack idea sounds brilliant, i see how theyve made it. They were mentioning other methods of armor storage that wouldn't be good for holding the various information peices on the armor such as colour, insignias, runes etc..I can immagine that it works similar to how current armor is stored when worn where their is specialised slots for each peice....a more convenient storage then the way people are using their heroes.
I think limiting these slots to armor and storage is actually much better than just giving us slots for anything, there needes to be limitations.
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I'm quite interested to see prices when it comes to gettin zkeys /baltahzar faction for doing some quests.
pumpkin pie
omg word play.
How much are the Equipment going to sell for??
How much are the Equipment going to sell for??
Wish Swiftdeath
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It seems to be restricted to Armor and weapons, for now:
Originally Posted by Linsey For now, the Equipment Pack won't be on the F9 screen and you will need to drag your weapons and armor over the bag and drop it to place it in the pack. Yes I know that sucks, but that is the way it needs to work for now because of the minimum resolution. If we decide to increase bag sizes (which we would like to do at some point) we will need to increase the minimum resolution available. That is one of the reasons we went with the Equipment Pack right now instead. Another is that a pack which restricts what can be put in it does save on data storage quite a bit. Once we have released these things and assessed their effect on the servers we can evaluate the need or ability to offer more storage upgrades in the future. |
If its going to be clunky and stupid to swap we may as well stick with what we got...
BenjZee
the point being...it saves space........and probably best solution datastorage wirse on their system.
Any info on party size for the managerie...that scares me. Can you allow other people to charm your animals if you bring them along. How are the creatures unlocked, are htey unlocked on capture this way or do you take them to the tamer or island itself. In the case of takin them you would allow heroes to go the island.
slightly offtopic but it would be cool to see heroes walking around on the island some reason that can only be a dream though...what i wanted for HoM the other year.
Any info on party size for the managerie...that scares me. Can you allow other people to charm your animals if you bring them along. How are the creatures unlocked, are htey unlocked on capture this way or do you take them to the tamer or island itself. In the case of takin them you would allow heroes to go the island.
slightly offtopic but it would be cool to see heroes walking around on the island some reason
that can only be a dream though...what i wanted for HoM the other year.
A11Eur0
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Wait, so whats the bloody point? Who carries around 20 weapons/shields in PvE?
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I do. Is that a bad thing? There are PvE'ers who collect rare weapons, or just collections of weapons for each circumstance. I have 6 shields, 4 swords, 3 axes, 4 hammers, and a pulling bow. I need more of each, except for the bow.
IlikeGW
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Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
Wait, so whats the bloody point? Who carries around 20 weapons/shields in PvE?
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Arduin
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On the other side the pet thing is laughable to me, and I can't imagine people collecting pets.
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Chthon
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Also, this is interesting:
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HawkofStorms
The daily quests sound AWESOME!
I assume the things mentioned in this thread are most of the "big" things to be released in this update, but I wouldn't be surprised if A.net was staying quiet about a things.
Definitely isn't a let down.
I assume the things mentioned in this thread are most of the "big" things to be released in this update, but I wouldn't be surprised if A.net was staying quiet about a things.
Definitely isn't a let down.
novawhiz
The daily quests is such a great idea. This will hopefully bring some people back together in the game and for at least a day bring PUG groupings to non- elite areas
Earth
(Hopefully) fun ways to get grindy titles in MY Guild Wars? Yes please.
Really interested to see how those quests work out tbh.
Really interested to see how those quests work out tbh.
Lonesamurai
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(Hopefully) fun ways to get grindy titles in MY Guild Wars? Yes please.
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especially for the title track point quests
mazey vorstagg
FINALLY!! Dailies have come to GW, this will make me play again
Arduin
I'm all for calling them Zoins btw.