R/Me Jade Brotherhood Knights Hardmode

Lourens

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Join Date: Mar 2006

22 Feb 2009 at 14:23 - 1

[build name="Ranger Farm" prof=R/Me Wilderness Survival=12+2 inspiration=8 Asura=10 Norn=10 Expertise=8+1 Wilderness Survival=12+2][greater conflagration][troll unguent][mental block][Antidote signet][mantra of flame][ether feast][radiation field]["You are all weaklings!"][/build] Keep GC,Mental Block,Mantra of flame,troll unguent up all times and keep them weakened

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I am happy to see people are still using the greater conflagration stuff I started for energy management for farming purposes. I was wondering how fast a run is and just looking at the build the skills seem counter productive in the way that you only gain energy when hit so I was wondering are you actually hit enough to make that setup worth it? The next point is radiation field can't possibly be that fast of a killing method. I Kill those 9 Knights in about 5 minutes

MisterB

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22 Feb 2009 at 18:33 - 2

If [[Radiation Field] is your only damage skill, even a trapper is probably faster than this.

spun ducky

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22 Feb 2009 at 21:24 - 3

I am happy to see people are still using the greater conflagration stuff I started for energy management for farming purposes. I was wondering how fast a run is and just looking at the build the skills seem counter productive in the way that you only gain energy when hit so I was wondering are you actually hit enough to make that setup worth it? The next point is radiation field can't possibly be that fast of a killing method.

superraptors

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23 Feb 2009 at 09:55 - 4

probably not worth the time to farm for $$
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Cebe

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23 Feb 2009 at 10:21 - 5

Originally Posted by superraptors

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probably not worth the time to farm for $$ I farm the street justice quest with a 55HP Monk, and take out the Jade Knights en route. They always seem to drop a rather pleasing number of golds, which makes up for them not dropping too much cash.

Titine

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23 Feb 2009 at 13:05 - 6

I think a R/Mo 105 HP may be faster :
Invicible :
- greater conflag
- protective bond
- storm chaser @ 16 WS
- a spell to regen life
Damage :
- Volley (you deal fire damage with GC, so no +20 armor for knights)
- i am the strongest
- ESBoH

random.name

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23 Feb 2009 at 17:48 - 7

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

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I farm the street justice quest with a 55HP Monk, and take out the Jade Knights en route. They always seem to drop a rather pleasing number of golds, which makes up for them not dropping too much cash. In addition to that they seem to drop an insane amount of runes. Started doing it to test my 330 rit ages ago, and still stop in there for the rune drops.

Lourens

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Join Date: Mar 2006

23 Feb 2009 at 19:18 - 8

Originally Posted by Titine

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I think a R/Mo 105 HP may be faster :
Invicible :
- greater conflag
- protective bond
- storm chaser @ 16 WS
- a spell to regen life
Damage :
- Volley (you deal fire damage with GC, so no +20 armor for knights)
- i am the strongest
- ESBoH Test it first before you post thanks,

The Knights attack speed in hardmode is about 3/4 second you will be hit about 4 times a second so you need 10 health (20hp/sec) regeneration for that good luck speccing 12 in healing prayers

Titine

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23 Feb 2009 at 20:05 - 9

Originally Posted by Lourens

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Test it first before you post thanks,

The Knights attack speed in hardmode is about 3/4 second you will be hit about 4 times a second so you need 10 health (20hp/sec) regeneration for that good luck speccing 12 in healing prayers Then you go 110 HP, you die once, you have 38 hp and lose only 1hp per hit. I m sure you can tank 6-9 knight, i tank 15-20 snowmens in HM with this build (but you can strafe to dodge snowalls).

There is still 3 skills left for damage, and even if you need to die, i still believe its faster.

EDIT : just tested, i forgot the XP given by knight (there is no xp in snowman lair). However you can tank 3 knight with 110 hp and protective bond, because they flee with aoe if you use the prep that deal aoe fire dmg.

Lourens

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Join Date: Mar 2006

24 Feb 2009 at 08:24 - 10

Originally Posted by Titine

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Then you go 110 HP, you die once, you have 38 hp and lose only 1hp per hit. I m sure you can tank 6-9 knight, i tank 15-20 snowmens in HM with this build (but you can strafe to dodge snowalls).

There is still 3 skills left for damage, and even if you need to die, i still believe its faster.

EDIT : just tested, i forgot the XP given by knight (there is no xp in snowman lair). However you can tank 3 knight with 110 hp and protective bond, because they flee with aoe if you use the prep that deal aoe fire dmg. Will be less fun imo

, I kill 3 knights under 1,5min and you think you can do it faster with a preperation and single targets not to mention the scatter.

deluxe

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24 Feb 2009 at 18:16 - 11

Originally Posted by Lourens

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Will be less fun imo

, I kill 3 knights under 1,5min and you think you can do it faster with a preperation and single targets not to mention the scatter.

impressive, 3 knights in 1.5 minute

my fairly simple mr cho's estate flashing blades build kills em in 15 seconds.

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

25 Feb 2009 at 06:50 - 12

Originally Posted by deluxe

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impressive, 3 knights in 1.5 minute

my fairly simple mr cho's estate flashing blades build kills em in 15 seconds. if you only have a ranger its fun to be able to farm them this way

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

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25 Feb 2009 at 07:07 - 13

Originally Posted by Lourens

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if you only have a ranger Then you can probably still run a decent flashing blades build.

There has to be better toucher/trapper builds even.

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

25 Feb 2009 at 08:54 - 14

Originally Posted by FoxBat

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Then you can probably still run a decent flashing blades build.

There has to be better toucher/trapper builds even. Whats wrong with being creative?

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

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26 Feb 2009 at 03:36 - 15

[build=OgoicxpMBLhaAd5cVccXiTmKCA]
I was just messing around since you brought up this farm spot. I can do both groups in about a 1:45 with the above build. I just swap to a bow for a second to apply the blind then back to scythe. I have max rank in all the pve skill lines. I figure yet another slightly different way of killing these guys for anyone that is bored. I might experiment more to see what else I can come up with as these mobs are very easy to counter.
I just tested [ebon battle standard of honor] instead of [by ural's hammer] it works a lot better so use that instead.
Attributes
Expertise 16
Scythe 12

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

26 Feb 2009 at 07:20 - 16

Originally Posted by spun ducky

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[build=OgoicxpMBLhaAd5cVccXiTmKCA]
I was just messing around since you brought up this farm spot. I can do both groups in about a 1:45 with the above build. I just swap to a bow for a second to apply the blind then back to scythe. I have max rank in all the pve skill lines. I figure yet another slightly different way of killing these guys for anyone that is bored. I might experiment more to see what else I can come up with as these mobs are very easy to counter.
I just tested [ebon battle standard of honor] instead of [by ural's hammer] it works a lot better so use that instead.
Attributes
Expertise 16
Scythe 12 Pretty good combo [throw dirt]x[archer's signet] how about adding [apply poison] to the mix?

but i think , [Ebon Dust Aura] would be a better choice

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

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26 Feb 2009 at 20:48 - 17

Originally Posted by Lourens

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Pretty good combo [throw dirt]x[archer's signet] how about adding [apply poison] to the mix?

but i think , [Ebon Dust Aura] would be a better choice The throw dirt combo lets you take on mobs that are of larger size since it blinds all adjacent foes in one toss for 30 seconds. I am sure both work fine but then if you use ebon dust you have to split your attributes more. I just enjoy making builds that are unique for farming or just the odd ball use.

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

26 Feb 2009 at 23:45 - 18

Originally Posted by deluxe View Post

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impressive, 3 knights in 1.5 minute

my fairly simple mr cho's estate flashing blades build kills em in 15 seconds.

Yeah [flashing blades] seems the elite skill to use. I made the following (modified slightly from my standard ASSN DPS build), and found each group of 3 was dead well before the elite skill even wore off (~20sec):
[build=OwNj0od8ISlZ+PHMSQxl1g+DjEA]
It seemed I was never able to get all 6 to ball up, unless I waited for the 3 to come back (waste of time).

I found I needed [Mental Block], as the rnd() blocking funtion seemed to roll '00' a lot (stuck?). I'm thinking that low dagger mastery with [dwarven stability], and some other line of attack will drop them real fast [mark of pain][splinter weapon]. Not sure how to replace the monk life leech - perhaps shadow mastery skills?
Quote: Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post

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Then you can probably still run a decent flashing blades build.

There has to be better toucher/trapper builds even. I ran a pretty vanilla toucher build - it worked, but felt kinda slow (40-50sec to kill 3)...
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Why are people hating lol. Prolly because of the following:

Originally Posted by Lourens

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I kill 3 knights under 1,5min

talisk3

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26 Feb 2009 at 23:52 - 19

Why are people hating lol.
Sure trapping WOULD be faster but this looks like a fun build to run.
Points for creativity!

deluxe

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27 Feb 2009 at 06:19 - 20

Originally Posted by Coney

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[build=OwNj0od8ISlZ+PHMSQxl1g+DjEA] This was mine:
[build=OwNj0Md8ITOMEfHMSQ1gDQ6P+DA]
bleeding + deep wound is faster than +damage skills.
3 healing is more than enough to mop up the dmg that comes trough.
Anyway, farming them knights just isnt worth your time.

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

27 Feb 2009 at 20:15 - 21

Originally Posted by deluxe

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This was mine:
[build=OwNj0Md8ITOMEfHMSQ1gDQ6P+DA]
bleeding + deep wound is faster than +damage skills. Good idea that bleed+dw. I wasn't sure if they blocked tho, so just went with the tried and true unblockable lead/offhand.

Ahh [critical defenses], shoulda thought of that. I noticed once I had the 75%blocking with fallthrough 50% blocking, that I rarely took damage, and my health was almost never below about 90%. So good idea to drop 1 of those monk life leech spells (and healing to 3)...

What confused me is how these 2 block skills stack? I mean, I'd guess you want [flashing blades] cast first, so that most blocks take reciprocal damage. But how does it work with a stance and an enchant? Is the first one cast the first one applied to incoming attacks?

Lourens

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Join Date: Mar 2006

28 Feb 2009 at 10:19 - 22

Originally Posted by deluxe View Post

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This was mine:
[build=OwNj0Md8ITOMEfHMSQ1gDQ6P+DA]
bleeding + deep wound is faster than +damage skills.
3 healing is more than enough to mop up the dmg that comes trough.
Anyway, farming them knights just isnt worth your time.

Originally Posted by Coney View Post

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Yeah [flashing blades] seems the elite skill to use. I made the following (modified slightly from my standard ASSN DPS build), and found each group of 3 was dead well before the elite skill even wore off (~20sec):
[build=OwNj0od8ISlZ+PHMSQxl1g+DjEA]
It seemed I was never able to get all 6 to ball up, unless I waited for the 3 to come back (waste of time).

I found I needed [Mental Block], as the rnd() blocking funtion seemed to roll '00' a lot (stuck?). I'm thinking that low dagger mastery with [dwarven stability], and some other line of attack will drop them real fast [mark of pain][splinter weapon]. Not sure how to replace the monk life leech - perhaps shadow mastery skills?

I ran a pretty vanilla toucher build - it worked, but felt kinda slow (40-50sec to kill 3)...

Prolly because of the following:

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Originally Posted by Coney

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Good idea that bleed+dw. I wasn't sure if they blocked tho, so just went with the tried and true unblockable lead/offhand.

Ahh [critical defenses], shoulda thought of that. I noticed once I had the 75%blocking with fallthrough 50% blocking, that I rarely took damage, and my health was almost never below about 90%. So good idea to drop 1 of those monk life leech spells (and healing to 3)...

What confused me is how these 2 block skills stack? I mean, I'd guess you want [flashing blades] cast first, so that most blocks take reciprocal damage. But how does it work with a stance and an enchant? Is the first one cast the first one applied to incoming attacks? Could you please stay on topic and give suggestions to the given R/Me build?, or I will be forged to close this thread.