As per my post in this thread I'd like to put forward the idea to change Legendary Guardian so that when you finish all three campaigns in Normal Mode you get Legendary Protector (1) (which DOES NOT count towards the maxed titles) and only when you finish all campaigns in Hard Mode and Normal Mode, do you get Legendary Guardian (2).
A similar idea could be implimented for Cartography, ie Legendary Explorer if you get 60% mapped in all campaigns, etc. Again, this would not count towards the maxed title track, would only just be another title to display for fun.
A poll has been added. Please use that unless you'd like to elaborate further. "/signed" or "/notsigned" posts will be deleted.
Legendary Guardian (2)?
ShadowbaneX
illidan009
I'm not a gwamm person but /signed because I should have a title to display without TOO much effort :P
MisterB
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ight=protector
Close, please.
Mod edit: Actually, this one wouldn't count towards GWAMM, etc. So it's a little different.
Close, please.
Mod edit: Actually, this one wouldn't count towards GWAMM, etc. So it's a little different.
pamelf
/signed. Same for LDoA. I think when you hit 16 there should be a tier 1 title you can display so people at least know you're progressing and you're going for it.
gameshoes3003
Sorry to sound stupid, but what's GWAMM?
PM me if you think it'll distract the current topic.
But also /signed on the OP's Protector/Guardian (I can care less really because I just got Legendary Guardian not too long ago kudos for me!!!).
PM me if you think it'll distract the current topic.
But also /signed on the OP's Protector/Guardian (I can care less really because I just got Legendary Guardian not too long ago kudos for me!!!).
Yawgmoth
OP's idea makes a lot of sense, and /signed.
But what's the point with doing that for LDoA?? Can't people just see your level? And whats the use of nonmax LDoA in post?
But what's the point with doing that for LDoA?? Can't people just see your level? And whats the use of nonmax LDoA in post?
ShadowbaneX
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Sorry to sound stupid, but what's GWAMM?
PM me if you think it'll distract the current topic. But also /signed on the OP's Protector/Guardian (I can care less really because I just got Legendary Guardian not too long ago kudos for me!!!). |
As for the reason, well, there was the thread I linked, and also characters get titles for mapping just 60% of a continent. You get to display your Sunspear rank after rank 5 or 6, Lightbringer and the Rep titles from GW:EN (although, yes, they do have a reason for it). There's still alot of titles that can be displayed for some minimal achievement and I think doing all those missions means doing a good deal more then some ofthose, so why not do it?
Also, while my primary character is a LG, I've got half a dozen or more characters that have Protector of Tyria, Cantha and Elona, and it'd be nice for them to get something, other then just being half way to Legendary Guardian.
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But what's the point with doing that for LDoA?? Can't people just see your level? And whats the use of nonmax LDoA in post?
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glacialphoenix
/signed
I said it on the other thread, and I'll say it here: I think it provides something nice for people to look at. To veterans, it's not a lot. Most of us consider the Protector titles as something very easy to get.
However, to, say, newbies, to whom the prospect of getting GWAMM is extremely daunting, it's a little bit of encouragement along the way. You're not dumbing down NM further, you're just recognising something they would have to do to get Legendary Guardian. People like feeling that they've achieved something, and titles are a confirmation of that achievement.
And for those people who have Legendary Guardian - well, it won't affect you, will it? It doesn't diminish your title or screw over the current title system in any way.
I said it on the other thread, and I'll say it here: I think it provides something nice for people to look at. To veterans, it's not a lot. Most of us consider the Protector titles as something very easy to get.
However, to, say, newbies, to whom the prospect of getting GWAMM is extremely daunting, it's a little bit of encouragement along the way. You're not dumbing down NM further, you're just recognising something they would have to do to get Legendary Guardian. People like feeling that they've achieved something, and titles are a confirmation of that achievement.
And for those people who have Legendary Guardian - well, it won't affect you, will it? It doesn't diminish your title or screw over the current title system in any way.
Verene
/signed
It wouldn't actually impact or change anything. All it would do is give those of us who don't want to go through HM/are intimidated by it/have finally finished all three campaigns something to go "oooooooh" over. Since, you know, not everyone rushes through the games or thinks/finds that getting the master rewards on every mission is easy.
It wouldn't actually impact or change anything. All it would do is give those of us who don't want to go through HM/are intimidated by it/have finally finished all three campaigns something to go "oooooooh" over. Since, you know, not everyone rushes through the games or thinks/finds that getting the master rewards on every mission is easy.
DragonRogue
/Signed /SIGNED /signed
I agree with ShadowBaneX and GlacialPhoenix on all of their points here. There is no reason under the sun why this can not be implemented. It has been an emotional debate in another thread and this is the best solution all the way around. And it makes sense due to the other title structures already in place.
I agree with ShadowBaneX and GlacialPhoenix on all of their points here. There is no reason under the sun why this can not be implemented. It has been an emotional debate in another thread and this is the best solution all the way around. And it makes sense due to the other title structures already in place.
lady daragon
/signed
I think this is a good idea because it makes the game more fun.
I think this is a good idea because it makes the game more fun.
yurak
/signed
Yes, because it shows your developing levels through the game
Yes, because it shows your developing levels through the game
MystressNimsun
/signed
It's only a small change to some but to others it's a true achievement
It's only a small change to some but to others it's a true achievement
cosyfiep
/SIGNED!!!!!!!!!!
yeah when they made HM I was hoping they would do this but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO they just made guardian where you need to get all 6....leaves us non-hm addicts out of it (yeah I DO find some of the nm missions kinda hard).
so yes pleaseplease please!
yeah when they made HM I was hoping they would do this but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO they just made guardian where you need to get all 6....leaves us non-hm addicts out of it (yeah I DO find some of the nm missions kinda hard).
so yes pleaseplease please!
hitsuji182
/signed
As above, idea sounds good and really makes sense. I hope that Regina will read this topic.
As above, idea sounds good and really makes sense. I hope that Regina will read this topic.
Reagan
/signed
Shadow, I signed this right after you did, but my post was deleted because I didn't say anything except "/signed." I didn't know I needed to give an opinion, too.
Anyway, it's just a good idea. And since someone posted a link showing another discussion similar to this from a year ago, maybe Anet should rethink this position.
Anyway, you have my support!
Shadow, I signed this right after you did, but my post was deleted because I didn't say anything except "/signed." I didn't know I needed to give an opinion, too.
Anyway, it's just a good idea. And since someone posted a link showing another discussion similar to this from a year ago, maybe Anet should rethink this position.
Anyway, you have my support!
Eragon Zarroc
/signed
It's a title that should have been implemented from the very beginning
It's a title that should have been implemented from the very beginning
BrettM
/signed
I can't see any possible harm in it, and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to implement unless you also want a statue for the HoM. Even then, ANet could just use the same old three-map statue that they use for several other titles, so it wouldn't require any artist time.
I can't see any possible harm in it, and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to implement unless you also want a statue for the HoM. Even then, ANet could just use the same old three-map statue that they use for several other titles, so it wouldn't require any artist time.
glacialphoenix
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unless you also want a statue for the HoM
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Sir James Ryel
/signed. I agree with my alliance leader in this matter, and I feel something should be done and this seems like a good solution.
Sir James Ryel
Sir James Ryel
Lourens
/not signed you can display protector of tyria/cantha/elona its not like you cant show of you completed those campaigns its fine the way it is , leave it be
MithranArkanere
This cannot be done. You can make them in any order. You can finish the HM ones before making the NM ones.
Shayne Hawke
Won't work. LG right now tallies the HM and NM completion of campaigns in the same track. What happens to the guy that does all of the HM missions in Master's and doesn't follow suit for NM under your plan?
payne
I do think that as long as they DO NOT contribute to GWAMM track then its fine...as casual players don't want to grind for hours to achieve a lame title - when an easier more casual option is available.
now how about a title "I have more common sense than to spend my life on an online game getting GWAMM"?
now how about a title "I have more common sense than to spend my life on an online game getting GWAMM"?
DragonRogue
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
This cannot be done. You can make them in any order. You can finish the HM ones before making the NM ones.
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But, being that I am not a programer and dont really know how it is all coded, this could be why the title was never implemented in the first place. That it was too difficult to program and that no one cared enough to take the time to figure it out or thought anyone would really care if it was not there. Thinking about the other title tracks and how they are put together, it is logical that this would require that a seperate title track be added which would throw the GWAMM mechanic off. IE, 3 skill cap titles to make a 4th legendary. Tho a GW tech would have to confirm this.
However this is a suggestion thread where people go to ask about a change. No one really thinks it will be implemented in this game. But it was obviously put here because the ideas of the community may have been overlooked, or never thought of, by the Dev team when the game was created. That some one might just have an idea that can be done to improve this game or something that should be addressed in GW2. Its just a shame that no Dev ever comes on to respond on why or why not something can or can not be implemented. It would be a great help to those who post here trying to make the game they love even better. And it would also help people understand a bit more about how things are done in the game. With this understanding, maybe needless debates about minor things, would not get blown all out of proportion.
So whether or not it CAN be implemented in this game is not really the issue as much as WOULD people like to have seen this title implemented and how. Whether it can is really up to the Dev teams. And if not in this game, then they should really think hard about it in GW2.
Nereyda Shoaal
/signed
The question "Should this title be implemented" is absolutely wrong
The question should be "Should it count towards GWaMM or not"
Having this title is so obvious. You have to be an absolute ignorant not to want it
Adding it to the game should be piece of cake. I don't see any obstacles from technical point of view
The question "Should this title be implemented" is absolutely wrong
The question should be "Should it count towards GWaMM or not"
Having this title is so obvious. You have to be an absolute ignorant not to want it
Adding it to the game should be piece of cake. I don't see any obstacles from technical point of view
pingu666
just make it 3/6 then?
you could have 3 protector titles
you could have 2 protector and a guardian
you could have 3 guardians
you could have 3 protector titles
you could have 2 protector and a guardian
you could have 3 guardians
MagmaRed
With no benefit to it but personal gratification, I see no point in it. You already get the 3 Protectors, and adding a Legendary does nothing for you if not adding a title to GWAMM. Displaying it will be a sign of what? That you own and completed all 3 games with bonus/Masters? I just don't see the point in it, and if it did add another title to GWAMM, I'd be happy as it would make things easier, but mad because it would make things easier. :O
I also like how you speak for the mods on the board. Or did a mod edit that into your post and forget to indicate what they did?
I also like how you speak for the mods on the board. Or did a mod edit that into your post and forget to indicate what they did?
SOF
/notsigned
Waste of time when more stupid titles like Drunkard should be fixed..
Waste of time when more stupid titles like Drunkard should be fixed..
Evil Bones
/signed
It would be great for a noob to be able to display a title.
Legendary protector Level one
It would be great for a noob to be able to display a title.
Legendary protector Level one
yurak
Yes, technicly you could get the r1 by doing HM missions, but if you do HM first ultimatly you would get the NM missions [and ultimatly the max tier] too. It shows that a person has got the skill to complete multiple missions, potentially on multiple dificulties.
This title is more appealing to the casual gamers who haven't got the time/effort to do HM missions.
This title is more appealing to the casual gamers who haven't got the time/effort to do HM missions.
glacialphoenix
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So whether or not it CAN be implemented in this game is not really the issue as much as WOULD people like to have seen this title implemented and how. Whether it can is really up to the Dev teams.
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Originally Posted by Nereida Shoal
The question should be "Should it count towards GWaMM or not"
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Had this been a thread about it being a separate title, I would have said no, it's a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by Lourens
you can display protector of tyria/cantha/elona its not like you cant show of you completed those campaigns its fine the way it is , leave it be
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pingu666
a whole bunch of my characters have the 3 prot titles, but im only vaguly interested in doing hardmode stuff on 1 of em, so id would quite like this...
Kattar
Please use the poll to /sign or /notsign this idea. There's no need to post a response without anything else to add.
Raccoon
Of all the things that can be improved in this game, you want everyone to take note of this?
Get some fresh air kkthx.
/notsigned
Get some fresh air kkthx.
/notsigned
Proff
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Originally Posted by pamelf
/signed. Same for LDoA. I think when you hit 16 there should be a tier 1 title you can display so people at least know you're progressing and you're going for it.
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MithranArkanere
I thought I already explained why can't this be done.
You can get Guardian before Protector.
They may be related, but they are different titles given for doing different things.
You can get Guardian before Protector.
They may be related, but they are different titles given for doing different things.
Nereyda Shoaal
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
I thought I already explained why can't this be done.
You can get Guardian before Protector. They may be related, but they are different titles given for doing different things. |
Guardian is 6/6
Protector is (would be) 3/6
So how do you get Guardian before Protector?
MithranArkanere
You don't even need to unlock Hard Mode with a different character:
- 1. Get to the final mission without making all bonus objectives in at least one mission, so you don't get Protector. Now you can play in Hard Mode.
- 2. Make all missions and complete all bonus objectives in hard mode. Now you have Guardian, but NOT protector.
Protector is NOT always done before Guardian. Ranks of the same title are acquired by earning the same kind of points.
"Mission + Bonus in NM" is NOT the same kind as "Mission + Bonus in HM".
Protector is given for completing all mission in Normal Mode.
If the points of both Normal and Hard mode counted for one title with two ranks, then someone could make something like making 8 missions in normal mode, 7 in hard mode, and get Factions Protector without making all normal mode missions. And so, that won't be Factions Protector, because Factions Protector is the one that made all Missions and Bonus objectives in normal mode.
That's why there were separated from the start. It's so simple I can't understand why some people can't get it.
net made them separated because they are separate.
It's quite obvious.
It's not like Rank 1 and 2 of Party Animal. It would be like making rank 1 using party gadgets, and rank 2 eating sweets.
They are similar and related (using consumables acquired usually in parties, events or from gifts) but they are different.
The points can be acquired separately, and in any order.
You can get them, for example, in this order:
- P HM
- F HM
- F NM
- NF HM
- NF NM
- P NM
That means that you can have legendary Guardian (1) WITHOUT making all Normal mode protectors.
A legendary guardian with 2 ranks won't always show that you made normal and then hard mode.
It will just show that you made 2 normal OR hard mode missions. And you could get it WITHOUT having all campaigns:
- P NM
- P HM
- F NM.
Ding, rank 1.
But Legandary Guardian is a title that is meant to be available ONLY to those that own all 3 campaigns.
Most of the other achievement-type 'Legendary' titles have one single rank, that is reached when other various titles are maxed.
The difference is that Legendary Guardian counts two kinds of titles instead of one. But those two are still separate.
See? Easy as pie. Cannot be done to work as asked by the OP the way titles work now.
And even if it was possible, it won't really make sense, no matter how many people try to make it sound coherent.
- 1. Get to the final mission without making all bonus objectives in at least one mission, so you don't get Protector. Now you can play in Hard Mode.
- 2. Make all missions and complete all bonus objectives in hard mode. Now you have Guardian, but NOT protector.
Protector is NOT always done before Guardian. Ranks of the same title are acquired by earning the same kind of points.
"Mission + Bonus in NM" is NOT the same kind as "Mission + Bonus in HM".
Protector is given for completing all mission in Normal Mode.
If the points of both Normal and Hard mode counted for one title with two ranks, then someone could make something like making 8 missions in normal mode, 7 in hard mode, and get Factions Protector without making all normal mode missions. And so, that won't be Factions Protector, because Factions Protector is the one that made all Missions and Bonus objectives in normal mode.
That's why there were separated from the start. It's so simple I can't understand why some people can't get it.
net made them separated because they are separate.
It's quite obvious.
It's not like Rank 1 and 2 of Party Animal. It would be like making rank 1 using party gadgets, and rank 2 eating sweets.
They are similar and related (using consumables acquired usually in parties, events or from gifts) but they are different.
The points can be acquired separately, and in any order.
You can get them, for example, in this order:
- P HM
- F HM
- F NM
- NF HM
- NF NM
- P NM
That means that you can have legendary Guardian (1) WITHOUT making all Normal mode protectors.
A legendary guardian with 2 ranks won't always show that you made normal and then hard mode.
It will just show that you made 2 normal OR hard mode missions. And you could get it WITHOUT having all campaigns:
- P NM
- P HM
- F NM.
Ding, rank 1.
But Legandary Guardian is a title that is meant to be available ONLY to those that own all 3 campaigns.
Most of the other achievement-type 'Legendary' titles have one single rank, that is reached when other various titles are maxed.
The difference is that Legendary Guardian counts two kinds of titles instead of one. But those two are still separate.
See? Easy as pie. Cannot be done to work as asked by the OP the way titles work now.
And even if it was possible, it won't really make sense, no matter how many people try to make it sound coherent.
Alleji
Makes sense for guardian, no for cartographer.