What was wrong?

infamous16

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

I was doing glints with a warrior, and we both ran Sab and seperated multiple times. Each time my group would die. Is it because I don't have the runes and weapons for my necs yet or what? And I am having trouble making a decent rt build for me to run with Sab, and with which henchies while solo vanquishing. Thanks

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Did you have a physical weapon, elemental weapon, and interrupt, and something to kill her stances?

Kiva-chan

Kiva-chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Mo/A

Seperating is probably your problem.
When I run it with a friend who's also using Sabway we stay close, but still pick a side to generally stick to.
I usually run it on an alt, so I don't have any runes or anything for my heroes but still have no problems.

I find that swapping out one of my necs for a paragon that can spam Anthem of Weariness helps a lot, but it's not at all necessary.

Also, if you're both running the exact same variants of Sabway, it might help for one of you to switch it up a bit and have both your setups complement each other better.


As for your other questions, I can't really help since I've never played a rit...

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

first wave I find the most annoying, but generally its a cake walk just rune up your heroes.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

Runing is smart. You should look into that.

If I had to say why you are dying and your buddy isn't, I'd guess that you are going right (where all the Deeds come).

For your Rit: I found Splinter/Barrage to be pretty strong in that particular challenge.

infamous16

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

Right now I'm thinking it was because my SS is kinda geared towards physical damage and there wasn't any.

Maybe I should try running a rt/d spirit's strength build, XD.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

only that spirits strength will get stripped very fast... :*

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

yep, rit splinter barrage will be quite good especially vs the first wave.

Suggestion:

[build prof=rt/r channeling=14 marksmanship=12][barrage][triple shot][distracting shot][nightmare weapon][splinter weapon][ancestor's rage][comfort animal][charm animal][/build]

14 spec splinter barrage big boom boom. Finish off single targets and destroers of life popping up in the fifth wave with triple shot + nightmare weapon. Pet soaks some aggro and allows you to easily bring [ancestors rage] to a large ball of destroers. :>

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

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Am I the only one seeing the skill tag for [hex eater vortex] doing 5378 Damage(the ones listed above my post) Just playin' around with attributes for laughs. Been known that you could do that for a while now.

[splinter weapon (pve)@1337][[email protected]]

You might want to consider the following pve skills in Super Igor's build:
["By Ural's Hammer!"@10] [Ebon Battle Standard of
[email protected]] ["I Am The Strongest!"@10]

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

yeah and i though [edge of extinction] could be extremely useful though I guess it might not live long with all the aoe bashing you.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Carry less enchants. The more you carry the more it's gonna hurt your team. I suggest a modified version of Sabway and toss out the prots. You should be able to "split" up easily with each team of 4 handling their own with ease. If you find you need to fall back alot and require help then you're lacking something.

The first wave is extremely easy. The key is to kill as fast as you possibly can and not allow the wave to build up. If you're killing too slow you'll eventually get overwhelmed. I use the first wave as a measure to see how much dmg I am doing. If I can't stay ahead of the mob (meaning I kill them fast enough that I can actually sit around at their spawn point and wait for them) then I'm not doing enough dmg and I will most likely fail.

Carry pain inverter with you. The biggest threat with the Glint run is the Destroyer of Compassions. Toss in a well timed pain inverter while the Compassions are swinging at your minions and "poof" they drop like flies. The second biggest threat is the Mesmers but only if you carry too many enchants, otherwise they are a walk in the park.

The Rangers carry an evasive stance so something like "wild blow" for example speeds up your run/killing.

If you need more help I can show you in-game.

Someone mentioned in an earlier post that "sticking together" is the key to winning. I would like to say that "sticking together" is just another way of saying you can't handle your own and you need help. Or another way of saying it is, you need the other guy to cover your flaws. In HM I can totally understand but NM is another story.

Kiva-chan

Kiva-chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Mo/A

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yeah and i though [edge of extinction] could be extremely useful though I guess it might not live long with all the aoe bashing you.
I always bring EoE.
It's especially effective with Splinter Barrage.
If you position it near Glint, or in the alcove type thing in between the two ramps it usually stays up for it's duration.

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Originally Posted by byteme! View Post
Someone mentioned in an earlier post that "sticking together" is the key to winning. I would like to say that "sticking together" is just another way of saying you can't handle your own and you need help. Or another way of saying it is, you need the other guy to cover your flaws. In HM I can totally understand but NM is another story. That's not actually what I said
I said the OP's problem might be solved by not splitting up.

I run it with two Barrage rangers with Splinter being applied by the N/Rt healers in each group.
Waiting till they clump up at each side, spreading disease with Toxicity up and having EoE around things blow up really quickly.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

No I quickly put together something to give him an idea but yeah I know theres Rit barrager on pvx its well known. Although PvX version needs updating pretty much every half decent barrager I came across uses [triple shot] + [nightmare weapon].

Mobs lock better on a pet than they do on minions and dervs can wipe out your entire minion army. But if you are afraid of you pet dieing then.

[build prof=rt/r box chan=14 marks=9 beast=9][barrage][splinter weapon][triple shot][nightmare weapon][favorable winds][edge of extinction][summon spirits][ebon battle standard of honor][/build]

pretty random but bleh you get the idea.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

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No I quickly put together something to give him an idea but yeah I know theres Rit barrager on pvx its well known. Although PvX version needs updating pretty much every half decent barrager I came across uses [triple shot] + [nightmare weapon].

Mobs lock better on a pet than they do on minions and dervs can wipe out your entire minion army. But if you are afraid of you pet dieing then.

[build prof=rt/r box chan=14 marks=9 beast=9][barrage][splinter weapon][triple shot][nightmare weapon][favorable winds][edge of extinction][summon spirits][ebon battle standard of honor][/build]
Rit barragers have been around for a long time already. It is not worth bringing the pet at 0 beast mastery because it will be a burden when it dies and it wont last long with that bar anyway. Pets are effective only if you invest on them.

You dont need summon spirits, like what Kiva said, you just need to place your EoE in the right places. Look at Nightow's suggestion for the pve skills.

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["By Ural's Hammer!"@10] [Ebon Battle Standard of [email protected]] ["I Am The Strongest!"@10]

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

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Rit barragers have been around for a long time already. It is not worth bringing the pet at 0 beast mastery because it will be a burden when it dies and it wont last long with that bar anyway. Pets are effective only if you invest on them.
Yep, they were.

You dont need to invest in your pet if you need it as a meat shield, just have something to keep it alive. B/P uses pets without investing in them, for sake of meat shields.

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You dont need summon spirits, like what Kiva said, you just need to place your EoE in the right places. Look at Nightow's suggestion for the pve skills. I dont like [i am the strongest!], one or two [barrage] and its gone. Does [by urals hammer!] effect splinter bursts?

Easily move spirits around is always useful when fighting against waves that have pop ups or aoe or w/e. Mobility is always good.

Anyway it doesnt matter as long as OP gets an idea, open your eyes this aint a rit forum.

BigDave

BigDave

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Manchester, UK

The Sapphire Rose [TSR]

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Does [by urals hammer!] effect splinter bursts?
[by urals hammer!] does affect [splinter weapon]. @15 channeling it'll do 63 damage instead of 50. Quite a nice skill to add for a splinter barrage build.

infamous16

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

for pve is there any other builds that would synergize well with sabway as an rt?

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Spirit's Strength, Channeling and resto stuff.