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belladonna shylock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Me/

27 Feb 2009 at 15:59 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

Excellent ideas here guys, thanks.

For those talking about running Luxon areas, what prof are you using?

I run it as a mesmer with mostly sin skills. Don't even need Shadow Form to run the luxon areas, even for hard mode.

it's really simple and yields a lot of chests.

The reason why you don't want to run shadow form is because there are a ton of hex removals that are able to remove shadow form. As stated above, bring a hex removal though because binding chains sucks..

The Mountain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Realm of the GWAMMs

Teh Academy [PhD]

W/

27 Feb 2009 at 19:50 - 42

Anyone know where to find chests with a decent chance of dropping bo or dragon staves?

Yes, I've read the wiki; yes, it fails. Thanks in advance

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

27 Feb 2009 at 20:00 - 43

I thought Dragon Staves dropped out of Raisu. As for Bo, most any place in the city works, but it needs to be in HM. Also it'll be rare. It might not be chests and only mobs, but I"m pretty sure they have a chance to drop from chests.

Gwmaster

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada/Quebec

N/

28 Feb 2009 at 00:14 - 44

The Mountain Ive seen some drop in the Halycon Job Quest, hope this helps lol

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

28 Feb 2009 at 01:23 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiak

Deldrimor Reputation
Normal Drops
Lockpick Drops
Lucky from Lockpick retention on Chests
Unlucky from Lockpick breaks on Chests
Sugar Points
Party Points
Alcohol Points
DP removers
250g from quest

I say Secret Lair of the Snowmen NM is FTW, aslong as your rank is below 8. You get the same chance of Lockpick drops, Better retention/Higher unlucky from break and the ennemies go down slightly faster. If you really need the reputation and are above rank 8 go HM. Same lockpick drop and ennemies really arent much harder but lockpick rention is slightly lower and lower unlucky.

Go as yourself with 2-3 monks for speed and 5-6 Minion Masters and watch the minions fly, there sure are enough corpses lol

Heh, LOL 10 birds!!! I liek it! I only got 1 lockpick drop today so far, in the first 5 minutes (4 hours later, nada...) - so 2.5 times ZERO is ZERO.

A nice solo build that can kill all fast would be good, but I can't seem to find anything even semi-decent that will pull that dwarf to the final room solo.

I can do NM with 3 hero and 1 hench (couldn't quite cut it w/o hench =( ), but the drops SUXORED. All chests dropped purples, the whites are 15-25g ID'd (and salvage into 2-3), and the endchest drops 2 items. So I recommend not wasting time on NM, as HM gives nice chests (80% golds), whites worth 60-100, and 4 items at end chest (and ~2x rep).

I did the following 3hero/3hench build HM, literally swept to the end a few times without any issues, as mobs dropped like flies in liquid nitrogen - no need to flag hero/hench, primary limiter was walking speed ([charge] would be nice, or something similar). I think this build could be improved to 3hero/2hench, as I ran a few times without any players ever coming close to death (remove [death pact signet]). I ran ASSN as [barrage] ranger (use LONGBOW, mine was sundering of enchanting):
ME: [build=OwJikxjMp/8YsY8WmLOAVDuICA]
H1: [build=OANDUslfSyBHVoBKgqB1DBEVVA]
H2: [build=OAhjUwGYoSLVVBKgSTDTjTVVJXA]
H3: [build=OAhkQkG5BHOUeglQZghQlQCYVVyF]
Prot hench
Heal hench
Earth hench

Gwmaster

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada/Quebec

N/

28 Feb 2009 at 01:53 - 46

yup been farming in hm all day..lots of golds 0 lockpick so far.

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

28 Feb 2009 at 02:08 - 47

I think I can drop to 3hero/2hench (6 total) by eliminating the earth hench, and somehow using [save yourselves] - but that requires a warrior or ranger with [barrage].

I used a longbow, as originally I had an ASSN melee build which just got auto-target-slaughtered while running into melee range... Maybe [hundred blades] pays off here...

I also left out [splinter weapon], which might somehow occupy one of the [death pact signet] slots...

EDIT: Ignore this - I used the same ASSN [barrage] build with 3 heros listed above, and only brought healer/prot hench (6 total). Cleared a few times, no slower than with earth hench (7 total), but slightly tricky right at first (meat shield build). No lockpicks, and the drops didn't seem much better than you'd get with 8 total...

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

28 Feb 2009 at 04:23 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mountain

Anyone know where to find chests with a decent chance of dropping bo or dragon staves?

Yes, I've read the wiki; yes, it fails. Thanks in advance

I got a q12 fire dragon staff today farming faction in Mount Qinkai, right outside Breaker Hollow Luxon, in HM.

And no, it isnt listed on the wiki
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Staff

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

28 Feb 2009 at 04:25 - 49

ugh if this is triple drop rate then they need to increase the drop rate on lockpics.

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

28 Feb 2009 at 04:29 - 50

lol, agreed.
In 8 1/2 hours i have gotten 3 lockpicks running snow cave.
One of my guildies has 34 picks from raptor farm, time to go into solo mode.

Kamakazi112

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

W/

28 Feb 2009 at 04:58 - 51

now to run 2000 chests!!!!

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

28 Feb 2009 at 05:00 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o

lol, agreed.
In 8 1/2 hours i have gotten 3 lockpicks running snow cave.
One of my guildies has 34 picks from raptor farm, time to go into solo mode.

Agreed, hardcore runs killing 34 raptors every minute seem best to tease out lockpicks (1.2k min price).

Yama Sutra

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

The Dutch Dream Team

E/Mo

28 Feb 2009 at 06:07 - 53

Just did the Raptor Cave 20 times .............not a single lockpick ............3x lockpick ?? my a** ............

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

W/

28 Feb 2009 at 06:34 - 54

It does seem that the drop rate is pretty low. Been doing raptor farming off and on for several hours and have only seen one drop.

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Feb 2009 at 13:09 - 55

Lockpick droprate has to be quite low, they're like 1plat bars drops or better, and chests are meant to be mainly a goldsink.

aptco09

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

MYST

Rt/

28 Feb 2009 at 13:24 - 56

About 5 Hrs both in HM and NM and not a single lockpick or key..

Did they forget to implement the change???

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

28 Feb 2009 at 13:24 - 57

Very strange: 30mins of HM raptor farming this morning and 3 picks! (plus a white dye and a few goldies) And yesterday night 3 failed UW PUGs for one ecto!

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

28 Feb 2009 at 13:34 - 58

yea i vanquished 5 zones? today and got 2 lockpics. they need to make the drop rate that they are right now be permanent and then make this weekend X2 that because the drop rate hasnt improved imo. ( it feels like it didnt get increased at all mainly because on Monday me and a friend vanquish all of the Christal desert and i got more lockpics in one zone there then i have clearing 5 zones in nightfall during this weekend )

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

28 Feb 2009 at 15:38 - 59

Say goodbye to good chest drops. Everyone I've seen open a chest in HM EotN are purple items D:

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

28 Feb 2009 at 15:48 - 60

Did 2 FoW runs last night (1 with alliance and 1 with just our guild) and we must have seen at least a dozen LP's drop between the two runs.

Sadly, I was dc'ed right as we were completing the last quest on the second run. Tried to reconnect but then I got a 007 error, followed by a weird 004 error. ><

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

28 Feb 2009 at 15:50 - 61

I did a full FoW run in HM last night with several Guildies/allies and had 5 picks drop for me. I think almost everyone got one or two.

Regardless of the drop rate, it's still a question of luck.

IceEmperor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Athens,Greece

N/Mo

28 Feb 2009 at 15:59 - 62

I tried vanquished joko's domain which netted me 13 lockpicks so far!!! Nice event for unlucky to progress!!

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

28 Feb 2009 at 23:53 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o

lol, agreed.
In 8 1/2 hours i have gotten 3 lockpicks running snow cave.
One of my guildies has 34 picks from raptor farm, time to go into solo mode.

Hmm, spent an hour farming raptor HM - 46 runs, ~34 raptor/run, no boss. Not a single lockpick - but golds were dropping very well for me (and opened 6 chests)...

Ran another hour using perma sliver, had 1 run where 2 lockpicks dropped, an elite assn tome, an elemental sword, and there was a chest! No other lockpicks tho...

EDIT: Are lockpicks considered white items which get loot scaled? Do they have a higher chance dropping from bosses, or in HM?

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

E/

01 Mar 2009 at 09:07 - 64

Ya, Anet seriously fuxxed up this weekend in doing the math..

Today i cleared FoW with only Me and 6 heroes in HM.... No lockpick

Yesterday i did about 50 raptor runs.... No lockpick

Yesterday i did 4 CoF runs.... 1 lockpick.

Yesterday i did snowman cave 5 times just to see if any would drop... No lockpick

This is seriously stupid. On any other normal day, i would get at least one lockpick in every area.

When i get home im going to try some Wurm farming and see if i have any luck. I doubt it though.

I talked to my alliance mates and they all have the same problem. I think Anet put the decimal place in the wrong spot. YAAAAY 0.3% Times the drop rate

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

01 Mar 2009 at 12:39 - 65

As far as I am concerned 3x0%=0% so it's working just fine from where I am sitting...still no lockpicks :P

Karia Mirniman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

01 Mar 2009 at 14:09 - 66

Hours of play this weekend, not one key.

Drop rate is one of the features of GW that is a major fail. It's a great shame that due to farmers the casual player isn’t provided for.

It may in part explain why such a great game (by any standards) isn’t very busy.

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

01 Mar 2009 at 15:27 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by daze

Ya, Anet seriously fuxxed up this weekend in doing the math..

Today i cleared FoW with only Me and 6 heroes in HM.... No lockpick

Yesterday i did about 50 raptor runs.... No lockpick

Yesterday i did 4 CoF runs.... 1 lockpick.

Yesterday i did snowman cave 5 times just to see if any would drop... No lockpick

This is seriously stupid. On any other normal day, i would get at least one lockpick in every area.

When i get home im going to try some Wurm farming and see if i have any luck. I doubt it though.

I talked to my alliance mates and they all have the same problem. I think Anet put the decimal place in the wrong spot. YAAAAY 0.3% Times the drop rate

same for me. i run cof on my monk for money and i usually get 2 or more picks on a normal day run. i do cof and i get 0. but when i get a run on my derv a pick. i had more picks drop from zchest/hidden treasure then monsters. but a happy/sad note i now have r5 unlucky. -_- woo 100k something to next lucky

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

01 Mar 2009 at 15:46 - 68

Doing my farming runs I've had about 18 lockpick drops. I think it has to do with your luck to be honest (no not the title). Wurms, Keg dropping, Hulking Stones, Spiders outside of Sunspear Greathall. Snow Wurms outside of Boreal have been dropping the most. 4 per inventory filled runs.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

01 Mar 2009 at 17:54 - 69

yeah the drop rate for me is a bit less than my norm.
Played on friday---one lockpick
Played on saturday---one lockpick and one key (yeah yeah was cleaning out some old quests).
Played late last night....one more lockpick and one key (different character same--cleaning quest log).

Now normally I get about one lockpick everyday--so nothing new here.
Hubby played friday and saturday with no luck at all---which is the norm for him as well.
However, crap drops (bones, chittin, collector junk) did increase---one HM mission I did I netted almost 250 bones!

sigh

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

01 Mar 2009 at 21:45 - 70

I didn't find a single lockpick, but I guess I'd have to kill stuff to get them to drop.

I did however buy 250 and break them all for a whopping 50,000 bad luck. More of these weekends please!

Inferno Link

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

E/R

01 Mar 2009 at 21:50 - 71

Only 1 lockpick in 2-3 days for me.... And I played 3-5 hours during each of those days lol.

MrTickle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

delete this account

N/

01 Mar 2009 at 22:57 - 72

Weeeeeeeeeeee I managed to get ONE (1) lockpick \o/ Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

01 Mar 2009 at 23:19 - 73

2 lockpicks here

honestly didn't notice a difference in drop amount and all my online guildies said they didn't notice a difference either

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

02 Mar 2009 at 00:07 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

honestly didn't notice a difference in drop amount and all my online guildies said they didn't notice a difference either

I agree. GW drop system seems to have bugs. A few tests follow:
Run the necro/ele bosses solo in Altruim ruins, and notice how almost every run BOTH bosses drop nothing (and if a drop, odds are its from the 2nd kill on ele). Re-run same, take full h/h/ group. Kill the 5-10 wardens on the way - then send h/h back to entrance. Guaranteed 1-2+ drops for *each* boss. This seems to be a drop/bug issue where the first few kills in instance CANNOT drop loot (nerf? I say *YEA*)...

There's string issues. As I've seen in pretty much every MMO game so far - the rnd() generator gets stuck (threads?), and either the same nothing/crap drops, or a shitload string of mega-items. Saw the same thing in WoW. I'm not talking about how computer rnd()fcn is NOT random, but rather how it doesn't even appear to GET ROLLED IN THE FIRST PLACE (e.g. thread/timeout/spinlock issue).

Definitely there's not the 3x drop rate increase in lockpicks - lockpicks still come up as options very rarely - but when they do, it's 3x higher. So, say for example, that lockpicks are in a table that pops 1% of the time. Let's say in that table they drop 75% of the time. Triple that to 225% doesn't really mean much, nor does it really increase their drop rate - you still have to traverse the 1% chance to hit the drop table before odds increase...

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

02 Mar 2009 at 03:18 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coney

I agree. GW drop system seems to have bugs. A few tests follow:
Run the necro/ele bosses solo in Altruim ruins, and notice how almost every run BOTH bosses drop nothing (and if a drop, odds are its from the 2nd kill on ele). Re-run same, take full h/h/ group. Kill the 5-10 wardens on the way - then send h/h back to entrance. Guaranteed 1-2+ drops for *each* boss. This seems to be a drop/bug issue where the first few kills in instance CANNOT drop loot (nerf? I say *YEA*)...

This is no bug issue. It was the farming rate that was instituted to cut down on goldsellers. Farm solo and you'll get less "exempt" drops.

*edit* How Loot Scaling Works:
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Loot...g#Loot_scaling

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

02 Mar 2009 at 07:53 - 76

I haven't even bothered with farming lockpicks because I remember the last event. It's like cthulhu said - three times zero is still a zero. That said, I've bought myself some lockpicks and went on a chest running frenzy. Farmed 120k Lucky points. Still need 80k to max.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

02 Mar 2009 at 08:00 - 77

http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12chests.jpg

Yeeep that's right. 12 chests for 1 lockpick. Ridiculous. Anyways, I farmed Friday and Saturday and farmed all day today. Should have probably started yesterday though (even though I was gone most of the day) Cause I only used up a little bit more than half of my lockpicks. 14k from r5 Unlucky and about 40k from r4 Lucky.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

02 Mar 2009 at 09:21 - 78

3h of HM raptor farming, and about 30minutes of vaettirs (strange, I added a PvE skill to make the ele build more efficient and it seems to reduce the quality of drops?): 7 picks, 2 white dyes, a few tomes and goldies. I did feel the x3 drops!

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

02 Mar 2009 at 09:29 - 79

11 vanquishes of Morostav this weekend. ~3300 kills.

0 lockpicks.

Does Not Compute.

Raven Wing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

N/

02 Mar 2009 at 09:31 - 80

I soloed around 200 hydras outside Augury and 150stone eles in old Ascalon, only 3 lockpicks
Did Thirsty River HM with full team of live people and got 2 lockpicks in that mission.