How useful is SoP really?

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

[Song of Purification]

Seems to be a staple among Rac's paraway. However, I am not quite convinced how useful it really is. As stated by many in GW guru, conditions in GW in general are pretty harmless. The only one I can really think of that can cramp my style is blind and maybe DW.

I was thinking of [Song of restoration] as an alternative.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Like pretty much every skill in the game, it depends. If you're using it in normal mode or in a zone that has barely any conditions, yes, it's useless. If you're using it in a hard mode zone that has lots of conditions, it's far from useless.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

SoP isn't bad, just overshadowed.

My default Hero teams for Sin, Para, War all consist of Necro's and Para's, and [foul feast] always finds a spot - sometimes supported by [purifying finale] at medium Moti spec. There's lots of [go for the eyes], [save yourselves] (among other shouts and chants - I love both Morgahn and Hayda) flying about so it's quite worthwhile.

I think spending an Elite slot on indirect condi removal, no matter how cheap, just isn't worth it.

Anwyn

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2009

YaRR Bear Pirates

P/W

SoP is awesome in my mind...

Sure, blind is the only one really affecting paraway, but what about the rest, what about poison, disease, bleeding and other degen, they affect your healers... Removing them near constantly removes alot of pressure off your heroes...

I run the identical Necro bar as you in place of the D/N as well, I find it does a better job, especially in 4 man areas...

random.name

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

South Africa

N/

I would personally replace [signet of lost souls] with [foul feast]. Condition removal with energy gain.

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

@anwyn: Glad to know that I'm not the only one thinking that this is a good bar. I do find that however when the necro is buffing, it won't heal well. But at least its better than the Derv's random heal that never seems to find the right person at the right time.

Any suggestions or problems you want to mention? I also think about dropping the Signet of Return on Hayda to run another skill. Any ideas? I hate long rez...

@random.name: Was thinkin about that. I'll give it a try and mention it. If I use foul feast, it may be better to run [xinrae's weapon]?

AntmanA

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2009

R/

Sig of return is a good res, hard, and reusable... For a motigon there's not much else you need on that bar... methinks...

Yuna Matsumarui

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

Me/

well, in most "real" teams SoP kinda sucks, since there is almost an overkill on condition removal. though in the teams i play ( me, 3 heroes, 4 henchies :P ) it works great. every profession spams skills, and since you can spam SoP alot, it removes all conditions. also is quite nice in gw:factions, with alot of disease going on.

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

OK this is my update:

Tried that necro bar, and I found it inferior to the D/N for these reasons.

1. Though it has far better party heal, it wastes lots of energy on itself due to life sac from the blood skills.
2. Condition removal is good, but as I stated previously, I never find condition removal to be that much of a hindrance.
3. Faithful/Watchful makes it so the Derv doesn't have to go healing itself whenever casting the blood spells. Usually the battles is over when both of them have been used up.
4. If anything, Hex removal is a much bigger issue than condition, especially in NF which the necro can't provide any better than the derv.
5. Song of Restoration is more useful to the Derv because the D/N lacks good healing which the Motivation para can make up if using SoR instead of SoP.

Any insightful comments is appreciated.