discordway sup death or minor?
dr love
just wondering, anyone test the effectiveness of running sups over minors for discordway? I kill stuff just fine with minor in HM but still sometimes there are still party wipes. I would think it would be worse if all my heroes had -75 hp, but then they should kill stuff a little faster right?
Eduhard
Major runes?
Katyia
I had done everything using minor.
Just analyze why your party was wiped:
- is it cause the targets remain with 10 HP ? then go for major (-35 nor 75 ^^) but only for death head.
- is it because you let your heroes just spam discord has they wanted ? I am forcing their skills to be perfectly sync with me so I usually (95%) can OS bearly anyone.
Just analyze why your party was wiped:
- is it cause the targets remain with 10 HP ? then go for major (-35 nor 75 ^^) but only for death head.
- is it because you let your heroes just spam discord has they wanted ? I am forcing their skills to be perfectly sync with me so I usually (95%) can OS bearly anyone.
Eragon Zarroc
use minor. +75 health over a few extra dmg. u should be fine =P
Super Igor
I use minor on the restos and sup on the bomber.
Zodiak
The difference in damage from Discord and other Death Magic related skills in the discord bars isnt significantly larger between a Minor and Superior Rune. The only case where you should consider a Superior Death rune is on the N/Mo for him to get 10 minions.
Look at what Vigor rune your discords have. If they have none, Use a Major Vigor. If money is tight, go with a Minor or if you have the cold and just want them to stay alive, go with a Superior vigor.
Since Necromancers get an uncanny amount of Energy from both Ennemies, Minions and to a lesser extent, Party members dieing, you could consider using some Survivor insignias. Maybe not ALL survivor, but maybe at least a Survivor insignia on the Chest piece and then however many you feel comfortable from there.
Another point to consider is to have Fortitude on the heroes weapons. Many cheap greens are very good for Death Mastery, the Deathbringer and Ghial's are two common. Although Ghial's has a +1(20%) death magic mod on them, which can sometimes be nice for having a stronger minion here and there, you can do without it. The Nightbringer on the otherhand has a +30hp mod on it.
A staff normally goes:
(Head) Staff of (Staff Wrapping)
(Head)
11-22 (Req X Mastery)
+10 energy
Half Skill recharge of spells (20% Mastery)
(Inscription, Usually Half Casting Time (20% Mastery))
(Staff Wrapping)
Though on Discord bars, the casting time and recharge is usually low, or has many instances of the same skill to cope. So Casting/Recharge takes less importance. All this to say that you can use up TWO staff mods for Fortitude, giving you the option of having +60 Health for your heroes.
Some discord bars also carry [aegis] on their bars which provide damage reduction through avoidance.
So between:
Minor Death/Soul Reaping Runes
Vigor Rune
Mix of Survivor/Radiant/Bloodstained Insignias
Staff with +30/+60hp
Skills
There are considerable places where you can acceptably compromise to customize your Discords. Customization is what makes Discord teams so popular and affective.
Look at what Vigor rune your discords have. If they have none, Use a Major Vigor. If money is tight, go with a Minor or if you have the cold and just want them to stay alive, go with a Superior vigor.
Since Necromancers get an uncanny amount of Energy from both Ennemies, Minions and to a lesser extent, Party members dieing, you could consider using some Survivor insignias. Maybe not ALL survivor, but maybe at least a Survivor insignia on the Chest piece and then however many you feel comfortable from there.
Another point to consider is to have Fortitude on the heroes weapons. Many cheap greens are very good for Death Mastery, the Deathbringer and Ghial's are two common. Although Ghial's has a +1(20%) death magic mod on them, which can sometimes be nice for having a stronger minion here and there, you can do without it. The Nightbringer on the otherhand has a +30hp mod on it.
A staff normally goes:
(Head) Staff of (Staff Wrapping)
(Head)
11-22 (Req X Mastery)
+10 energy
Half Skill recharge of spells (20% Mastery)
(Inscription, Usually Half Casting Time (20% Mastery))
(Staff Wrapping)
Though on Discord bars, the casting time and recharge is usually low, or has many instances of the same skill to cope. So Casting/Recharge takes less importance. All this to say that you can use up TWO staff mods for Fortitude, giving you the option of having +60 Health for your heroes.
Some discord bars also carry [aegis] on their bars which provide damage reduction through avoidance.
So between:
Minor Death/Soul Reaping Runes
Vigor Rune
Mix of Survivor/Radiant/Bloodstained Insignias
Staff with +30/+60hp
Skills
There are considerable places where you can acceptably compromise to customize your Discords. Customization is what makes Discord teams so popular and affective.
TheodenKing
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiak
Some discord bars also carry [aegis] on their bars which provide damage reduction through avoidance.
Don't leave home without it.
Ariena Najea
I use Major, although Minor is the most effective. Major runes are far cheaper though, and if you're doing it right your heroes won't notice the -35 health.
Just don't use Superior and you'll be fine.
Just don't use Superior and you'll be fine.
Trader of Secrets
I use major. 2 of my 3 discords pump out minions.
T1Cybernetic
I have been using minors in PvE for a long time now, the +% of damage is not really needed the only time i change the runes around is if i am trying to ballance attributes out for some specific builds that require key skills etc.
+1 Minor Runes
+1 Minor Runes
AtomicMew
I use 2 superiors and 1 minor with full survivor and spear/+30 offhand setup.