I currently having a hard time with my A/E doing quest (level 14, Factions). I use a lot of henchmen on my questing only because not to much people are on to group when I start my GW time and I want to learn how to play this build. I tried different things, pulling mobs, hit and run, let the tank aggro before I attack every time . It still seems I am not doing something right.
I guess energy management is a problem for me and I still don't have all the skills yet for both profession as I running through the story. I upgraded my gear some what with crafting.
I'm very new to the game, I have used different spells and attack, in multiple order, but still find myself having to go back to town to start all over.
am I putting to much faith on my henchmen? I don't know how to put my skill on here to show you what I use, but some idea in other A/E players would be helpful
I re-read the "Basic Guide to playing Assassins" and followed some links. I think I will try some of these tactics and see if that improves. I lot of info, there and for me it don't register yet since I don't have some of those skills. @ Level 14 do I get more skills later in the story for Faction?
Assassin and PvE
Juju Jojo
Damian979
First off, you display skills like this [wild strike] by typing [skill name]. Showing what build you are trying will help others to help you. You will get access to more skills as you progress too.
Second, an assassin's energy management lies mostly in their primary att critical strikes. Using a zealous weapon with critical strikes should be all the energy you need to run most any melee based build.
Second, an assassin's energy management lies mostly in their primary att critical strikes. Using a zealous weapon with critical strikes should be all the energy you need to run most any melee based build.
zwei2stein
It seems like you are trying to elementalist and assassin stuff at one.
Don't use many elementalist skills, they are too costly, stick to Daggers. If you put points into critical strikes attacks will pay for themselves, especially if you get [Critical Eye]
You can just type names of skills you use and add brackets [ ] around them. We can then advise you further.
Don't use many elementalist skills, they are too costly, stick to Daggers. If you put points into critical strikes attacks will pay for themselves, especially if you get [Critical Eye]
You can just type names of skills you use and add brackets [ ] around them. We can then advise you further.
Juju Jojo
OK thanks for showing how to post the spells. And I do try to use some skills in Ele but I think the cost is to much to be a true assassin. Where do I find these Zealous weapon?
Zodiac Meteor
[conjure [email protected]] and a lightning weapon = good damage.
with 13 or even 8 critical strikes energy should be a thing of the past. Try to do the 15 attribute points quests asap. you can find them here and here.
Remember, you have to meet the requirements to do them which is no problem.
with 13 or even 8 critical strikes energy should be a thing of the past. Try to do the 15 attribute points quests asap. you can find them here and here.
Remember, you have to meet the requirements to do them which is no problem.
_Nihilist_
You can get max daggers from some collectors (check GuildWiki's weapons/collector's section), and you can always buy a Zealous Dagger Tang from a player or salvage them from a drop and upgrade the Daggers you are using.
Juju Jojo
So far my Skills I use at Level 14 are [Unsuspecting Strike] [Fox Fangs] [Critical Strike]. Also on is [Shadow Refuge] [Critical Defense] [Critical Eye]. I sometimes have [Death's Charge].
I currently have about 25 energy pool now. It seems after my first 3 attacks, I have to run away from the fight to allow myself to let the energy replenish it's self. Any tips I should do? or skill I should work up to that should show up later in the story line?
I currently have about 25 energy pool now. It seems after my first 3 attacks, I have to run away from the fight to allow myself to let the energy replenish it's self. Any tips I should do? or skill I should work up to that should show up later in the story line?
_Nihilist_
In order to answer your questions further Juju Jojo, we need to know how you have your attributes split/invested.
One reason is that @ lvl 14, you aren't going to have that many attribute points to utilize in the first place, so you aren't going to have very much in Critical Strikes. Once you get Critical Strikes to 8 (or 7 and a +1 minor rune of Critical Strikes), you will get 2 energy back every time you deal a critical hit, [[Critical Eye] will provide an additional 1 energy on each critical. If you can get your Critical Strikes to 13 (12 and a +1 minor rune of Critical Strikes) you will gain 3 energy every time you land a critical hit.
Also, your lead attack, [Unsuspecting Strike], takes up 10/25 of your total energy pool. While the damage is nice (especially if you meet the conditional to get the extra bonus damage), without at least 8 ranks in Critical Strikes and a pair of Zealous Daggers, you aren't going to be able to unload your full attack chain. Not to mention, you probably precast [Critical Eye] and [Critical Defenses] before you initiated combat... there's all 25 of your energy gone, and even with 4 pips of regen, you'll be gaining 1.33e/second, or 4e/3 seconds, which isn't going to be enough to do anything but auto-attack for a few seconds while you regen.
One reason is that @ lvl 14, you aren't going to have that many attribute points to utilize in the first place, so you aren't going to have very much in Critical Strikes. Once you get Critical Strikes to 8 (or 7 and a +1 minor rune of Critical Strikes), you will get 2 energy back every time you deal a critical hit, [[Critical Eye] will provide an additional 1 energy on each critical. If you can get your Critical Strikes to 13 (12 and a +1 minor rune of Critical Strikes) you will gain 3 energy every time you land a critical hit.
Also, your lead attack, [Unsuspecting Strike], takes up 10/25 of your total energy pool. While the damage is nice (especially if you meet the conditional to get the extra bonus damage), without at least 8 ranks in Critical Strikes and a pair of Zealous Daggers, you aren't going to be able to unload your full attack chain. Not to mention, you probably precast [Critical Eye] and [Critical Defenses] before you initiated combat... there's all 25 of your energy gone, and even with 4 pips of regen, you'll be gaining 1.33e/second, or 4e/3 seconds, which isn't going to be enough to do anything but auto-attack for a few seconds while you regen.
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong
You can get Zealous Daggers from some collectors
Uh Tyrael.... collector weapons don't come with prefixes. You need a green or gold with a zealous tang.
Stealth Bomberman
sins are overpowered and underpowered at the same time in this area of the game. get lvl 20 first with max armor, then worry more about team set-ups and survivability.
FaiLeD
I usually use [Golden Fox Strike] [Wild Strike] [Death Blossom] and the u can add some into critical strikes for extra energy and use [critical strike] or u can use [Lotus Strike] and [Golden Lotus Strike]. Also, for surviving I suggest using at least [Shadow Refuge]. You could also use [Critical Defenses] and [critical eye] but I don't know how it does in PvE. I'm not the expert on assasin though but yea.
Juju Jojo
As for my stats: I have 10 in Critical Strike, 8 in Dagger Mastery, and 5 in Shadow arts. Also, I notice I don't have [Critical Strike]. I have in replace of that on my skill bar is [Twisting Fangs]. sorry for the wrong info.
And yes I do have energy management problems. I guess I don't want to miss any thing in the game that could improve my assassin. As I keep with the story, I learning what my guy can do and can't do. But with all your input you provided, it show's I still have a lot to learn.
And yes I do have energy management problems. I guess I don't want to miss any thing in the game that could improve my assassin. As I keep with the story, I learning what my guy can do and can't do. But with all your input you provided, it show's I still have a lot to learn.
Juju Jojo
Did anyone of you end up spending the gold + a 1 skill point and purchasing from a skill trainer? @ now Level 15 (almost L16), I was hoping I get more training or quest with more Assassin skill as rewards. I only have GW Factions and will get the other expansion after I finish this one. I did do the quest that gave extra skill points so wondering if i should just use those and purchase the skills that was mention on this trend? Honestly, I rather keep questing and earn my skill. But it seems I am just using the most expensive skill (energy wise) and that is why I feel I having a hard time.
_Nihilist_
Gah... I forgot Chthon... It's been awhile since I went to a collector for much of anything, and I must have gotten a quest reward and collector reward mixed up... By the time I decided to fool with the Assassin profession, I already had a few pairs of modded out daggers from drops while on my other characters...
My mistake...
Must remember not to post when tired or under the influence of my job... ugh...
My mistake...
Must remember not to post when tired or under the influence of my job... ugh...
Juju Jojo
So I bought some skills and I have to say, the fun factor just took off. I was able to group with 3 ppl and was able to use my new found skill.
My skill bar looks like this:
[Critical Defenses] [Golden Lotus Strike] [Fox Fangs] [Death Blossom] [Jagged Strike] [Critical Eye] [Way Of Perfection] [Shadow Refuge]
I Just started doing quest and the story chain to Kaineng City, with my A/E at level 17.
I'm in a guild but no one is on when I play (Live in Hawaii), so was wondering if anyone done the chain quest with all henchmen?
After doing research, I know I have another city capital I have to visit and yet another Skill Trainer. So right now this is working for me. Any tip or skill I should get from skill trainer to improve my skill bar would be helpful. But thanks for all the tip from everyone who posted on this thread to help a new player get better.
My skill bar looks like this:
[Critical Defenses] [Golden Lotus Strike] [Fox Fangs] [Death Blossom] [Jagged Strike] [Critical Eye] [Way Of Perfection] [Shadow Refuge]
I Just started doing quest and the story chain to Kaineng City, with my A/E at level 17.
I'm in a guild but no one is on when I play (Live in Hawaii), so was wondering if anyone done the chain quest with all henchmen?
After doing research, I know I have another city capital I have to visit and yet another Skill Trainer. So right now this is working for me. Any tip or skill I should get from skill trainer to improve my skill bar would be helpful. But thanks for all the tip from everyone who posted on this thread to help a new player get better.
iVendetta
Assuming you are a level 17, and have 125 attribute points.
[build prof=A/any name="Not Level 20 Yet ):" box criticalstrikes=8 daggermastery=11 shadowarts=4][Leaping Mantis Sting][Jungle Strike][Repeating Strike][Critical Strike][Critical Defenses][Shadow Refuge][Optional][Optional][/build]
First optional skill:
[Critical Agility]
[Assassin's [email protected]]
Second optional skill:
[[email protected]]
[Death's [email protected]]
[Dark [email protected]]
[Recall]
Remember to make good use of your secondary profession as well. Note the "good use" part.
When you get to level 20, try to prioritize attaining these elites:
[Shadow Form][Locust's Fury][Palm Strike][Way of the Assassin][Flashing Blades][Moebius Strike][Wastrel's Collapse]
Have fun.
[build prof=A/any name="Not Level 20 Yet ):" box criticalstrikes=8 daggermastery=11 shadowarts=4][Leaping Mantis Sting][Jungle Strike][Repeating Strike][Critical Strike][Critical Defenses][Shadow Refuge][Optional][Optional][/build]
First optional skill:
[Critical Agility]
[Assassin's [email protected]]
Second optional skill:
[[email protected]]
[Death's [email protected]]
[Dark [email protected]]
[Recall]
Remember to make good use of your secondary profession as well. Note the "good use" part.
When you get to level 20, try to prioritize attaining these elites:
[Shadow Form][Locust's Fury][Palm Strike][Way of the Assassin][Flashing Blades][Moebius Strike][Wastrel's Collapse]
Have fun.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Juju Jojo
So I bought some skills and I have to say, the fun factor just took off. I was able to group with 3 ppl and was able to use my new found skill.
My skill bar looks like this:
[Critical Defenses] [Golden Lotus Strike] [Fox Fangs] [Death Blossom] [Jagged Strike] [Critical Eye] [Way Of Perfection] [Shadow Refuge]
I Just started doing quest and the story chain to Kaineng City, with my A/E at level 17.
I'm in a guild but no one is on when I play (Live in Hawaii), so was wondering if anyone done the chain quest with all henchmen?
After doing research, I know I have another city capital I have to visit and yet another Skill Trainer. So right now this is working for me. Any tip or skill I should get from skill trainer to improve my skill bar would be helpful. But thanks for all the tip from everyone who posted on this thread to help a new player get better. Your first goal should be to do this quest http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Captu...he_Orrian_Tome which gives you signet of capture and then capture [Palm Strike]
Then, definitelly buy [Wild Strike] and replace Fox Fangs with it.
My skill bar looks like this:
[Critical Defenses] [Golden Lotus Strike] [Fox Fangs] [Death Blossom] [Jagged Strike] [Critical Eye] [Way Of Perfection] [Shadow Refuge]
I Just started doing quest and the story chain to Kaineng City, with my A/E at level 17.
I'm in a guild but no one is on when I play (Live in Hawaii), so was wondering if anyone done the chain quest with all henchmen?
After doing research, I know I have another city capital I have to visit and yet another Skill Trainer. So right now this is working for me. Any tip or skill I should get from skill trainer to improve my skill bar would be helpful. But thanks for all the tip from everyone who posted on this thread to help a new player get better. Your first goal should be to do this quest http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Captu...he_Orrian_Tome which gives you signet of capture and then capture [Palm Strike]
Then, definitelly buy [Wild Strike] and replace Fox Fangs with it.
FreeFalling
Is factions the only campaign you have at the time? I am not sure if you have yet to mention it. I know what you mean though when you say you can't find a lot of players to party with. Your best bet to finding parties though would be to stay in America English district 1. That is usually where most people tend to be. If your guild is inactive at the time you play you might want to look for another guild. I am not trying to say just up and ditch your guild but it is usually best to be in a guild where a lot of the players are on around the same time you are. It will help you connect with them and make friends. Also if they are on a lot of the times that you are. It will also make them available for them to assist you because everyone needs help at times. I have played for a very long time and I know there are times when my heros and henchmen alone wont cut it. It is a great thing though that you are coming to guru for assistance there are a lot of experienced players who frequent this forum and their input is very valuable when it comes to helping yourself become a better player.
[Not Level 20 Yet ):;OwBj0tf0IO/v+H0b/NAdZAAAA]
This build war previously posted and I will say I do agree with it being a fairly good build. But I would replace [critical defenses] with [way of perfection]. It will help you keep your health up and it costs less time/ energy to cast. I know this might cause some trouble because a lot of people love [critical defenses]. But I find I don't use it a lot in pve. As for the 2 other skills not included in the skill bar I would suggest [critical agility] if you have nightfall and the last one I would suggest a [resurrection signet] it is an invaluable skill and should be included in ever skill bar. Unless you have a hard resurrection skill such as [rebirth], [resurrect], or [resurrection chant]. When I say "hard resurrection" I mean a resurrection that can be constantly used if you ever use [resurrection signet] it can only be used once (unless you kill a boss or complete an objective in some missions.) So I would suggest a hard res but your secondary class would have to be monk if you wanted one. If you don't have [critical agility] I would suggest [heart of shadow] for additional healing or [sharpen daggers] for additional damage.
[Not Level 20 Yet ):;OwBj0tf0IO/v+H0b/NAdZAAAA]
This build war previously posted and I will say I do agree with it being a fairly good build. But I would replace [critical defenses] with [way of perfection]. It will help you keep your health up and it costs less time/ energy to cast. I know this might cause some trouble because a lot of people love [critical defenses]. But I find I don't use it a lot in pve. As for the 2 other skills not included in the skill bar I would suggest [critical agility] if you have nightfall and the last one I would suggest a [resurrection signet] it is an invaluable skill and should be included in ever skill bar. Unless you have a hard resurrection skill such as [rebirth], [resurrect], or [resurrection chant]. When I say "hard resurrection" I mean a resurrection that can be constantly used if you ever use [resurrection signet] it can only be used once (unless you kill a boss or complete an objective in some missions.) So I would suggest a hard res but your secondary class would have to be monk if you wanted one. If you don't have [critical agility] I would suggest [heart of shadow] for additional healing or [sharpen daggers] for additional damage.
Juju Jojo
Thanks for more tips. I only have GW Prophecies and Faction, so yes I'm limit to all the other cool skills that Assassin's get from 2 other expansion. I'm currently trying to do "Closer to the Stars" quest w/ henchmen only and so far 2 wipes, but was able to reach the last boss. I did get a new elite skill [shadow form] but after reading more post, I feel I might have a skill not used in PvE build.
I hear it was nerfed but wondering if people use this skill on pve w/henchmen quest? Also, I'm using the "lead, offhand, dual strike formula but I notice some build go strait to the off hand? Is this viable, coming from a new player that still trying to understand the game.
As for changing guild, I have joined about 3 different guilds most log off just when I log in. All with great players who help me with directions. But, time is a problem so I'm stuck with 90% henchmen run. I must say, I have gotten very good in pulling small mobs which helps me a lot.
Overall, this game is amazing and having loads of fun playing my A/E even though I don't really use the E side of my build. Maybe I try the "Perma build" with the [Shadow Form]
I hear it was nerfed but wondering if people use this skill on pve w/henchmen quest? Also, I'm using the "lead, offhand, dual strike formula but I notice some build go strait to the off hand? Is this viable, coming from a new player that still trying to understand the game.
As for changing guild, I have joined about 3 different guilds most log off just when I log in. All with great players who help me with directions. But, time is a problem so I'm stuck with 90% henchmen run. I must say, I have gotten very good in pulling small mobs which helps me a lot.
Overall, this game is amazing and having loads of fun playing my A/E even though I don't really use the E side of my build. Maybe I try the "Perma build" with the [Shadow Form]
iVendetta
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Originally Posted by Juju Jojo
Quote: Originally Posted by Juju Jojo
I'm currently trying to do "Closer to the Stars" quest w/ henchmen only and so far 2 wipes, but was able to reach the last boss. I did get a new elite skill [shadow form] but after reading more post, I feel I might have a skill not used in PvE build.
[[Shadow Form] is an excellent skill. It can be maintainable in PvE through 16 points in Shadow Arts + [[Glyph of Swiftness] + [[Deadly Paradox] + 20% enchantment lengthening mod. Although it is not useful in all occasions, it makes an excellent running/farming skill.Quote: Originally Posted by Juju Jojo
Also, I'm using the "lead, offhand, dual strike formula but I notice some build go strait to the off hand? Is this viable, coming from a new player that still trying to understand the game.
Yes, this is possible. Some chain links such as [[Golden Phoenix Strike] do not require a lead attack. However, some are conditional such as [[Black Spider Strike] which require you to meet the conditions (such as hexed, knocked down, enchanted, etc).Quote: Originally Posted by Juju Jojo
As for changing guild, I have joined about 3 different guilds most log off just when I log in. All with great players who help me with directions. But, time is a problem so I'm stuck with 90% henchmen run.
Don't get discouraged. If you join an active guild, a lot of people will be willing to help you. And if you're in an urgent need of company, pick up a group. However, this could be disadvantageous as people might leech, not cooperate, and the like.
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. Once unlocked, you can switch between them in any town or outpost. 
I also am glad you find enjoyment with your sin. I played a necromancer for what seems like forever. Then right about when Nightfall came out I made a sin because I started capping sin skills on my necromancer for my title. Ever since then I have played my sin with much. <3 Keep playing, keep enjoying, and if you keep trying to make your self a better player one day it might be one of us asking you for help. 
