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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Actually it was confirmed, to many ppl dont want to believe it is all. Unless you're one of those that think non max req 7 are VERY VERY RARE.
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r7 and r8 max still drop?!?
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T1Cybernetic
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Originally Posted by Nerfed Necro
I looted a white req 8 tactics shield (white) ... *sigh* I can put a handle on it but no inscription. Wish we could customize shields.
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i have never seen or heard of a shield that can only be modded with 1 upgrade? are you sure it can take upgrades at all?
geaw
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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
That is one very odd shield
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T1Cybernetic
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Originally Posted by geaw
try to upgrade any white shield and youll see what he is talking about
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i have played for far too long 
but i never tried to upgrade a white shield before 
thanks for the info...
Copenhagen Master
I know for a fact req8 still drop got a gold req8 Fellblade Tyrian 15(stance) max dmg and it was dropped in Talus Chute
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by Copenhagen Master
I know for a fact req8 still drop got a gold req8 Fellblade Tyrian 15(stance) max dmg and it was dropped in Talus Chute
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Thats quite unlikely, tyrian gold max req8 Fellblade now is as probable as a req7 one before that dreaded update. And how many Gold Max req.7 Fellblades have you seen in the old times?
the_jos
There are two problems with finding max R7 weapons.
First of all, loot scaling decreased the chance of getting a R7 a lot.
Second and related to this, the areas that were farmed and dropped R7's (like vermins) don't attract farmers anymore.
Most players who might find one will probably stumble upon them and merch them since they don't know about the rarity.
I know Gaile 'confirmed' they still drop, but I've seen no screenshot of a drop for ages. Does a tree that falls in a forest make a sound when no-one is around to hear it?
First of all, loot scaling decreased the chance of getting a R7 a lot.
Second and related to this, the areas that were farmed and dropped R7's (like vermins) don't attract farmers anymore.
Most players who might find one will probably stumble upon them and merch them since they don't know about the rarity.
I know Gaile 'confirmed' they still drop, but I've seen no screenshot of a drop for ages. Does a tree that falls in a forest make a sound when no-one is around to hear it?
Mr Face
Da Tru Legend
Got a req 8 purple max non-insc focus drop from an NM chest in the Crystal Desert about a week ago. Screenshot attached.
~Tru
~Tru
Faer
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Care to post screenshot of any of those 2?
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MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by Theocrat
I have previously. Not digging through my screenshot folder for them for the billionth time, especially considering every time I posted them a PC Guru jumped on my tail with Photoshop claims quicker than Jackson jumps on crippled kids.
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av8mech
I have an gold, R7, Recurve bow I got from Proph. area as a drop about 3 months ago. Its inscribable, but only has a damage level of 12-21, which isn't a max bow. I've held on to it, but was told it wasn't worth anything.
ZeusTheGiant
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Originally Posted by av8mech
I have an gold, R7, Recurve bow I got from Proph. area as a drop about 3 months ago. Its inscribable, but only has a damage level of 12-21, which isn't a max bow. I've held on to it, but was told it wasn't worth anything.
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Rice
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Originally Posted by av8mech
I have an gold, R7, Recurve bow I got from Proph. area as a drop about 3 months ago. Its inscribable, but only has a damage level of 12-21, which isn't a max bow. I've held on to it, but was told it wasn't worth anything.
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Really.................
Are you sure its not in EOTN Area
av8mech
Or at least I was pretty sure that's were I got the drop. I know that insrib. weapons are supposed to be only in Eotn or nightfall. But I don't farm Eotn or nightfall areas. I remember it being on a farm run because I showed it to other members of my family when it happened and was told to hang on to it. Could have sworn up and down it came from the North Kryta area, but with that in mind, makes me wonder if I am remembering the drop location now or not.
If I can figure out how to do a "screen shot', I'll post a picture of it with the stats. (I'll have to ask my 13 yr son how to do it. lol)
If I can figure out how to do a "screen shot', I'll post a picture of it with the stats. (I'll have to ask my 13 yr son how to do it. lol)
Vazze
The last thread about "req7 max items with inscription" got closed about a year ago because nobody could confirm it and there was a guy who tried to fake it. We know that nonmax items with inscription slot drop with req0-13 (which definitely includes req7), and max req7 items without inscription also drop, that's all. These items are not that rare either.
Faer
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
But me, and probably a lot of people, would love to be proven wrong.
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In any event, people who ask for a screenshot then say screenshots aren't confirmation of anything make me chuckle. Gurumites need to learn to ask for what they want right off the bat. :3
MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by Theocrat
Weren't you with us on the runs I got the shield and spear during? Had to have been you or Rob, can't remember [SMS] having any other Monks of note.
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Originally Posted by Theocrat
In any event, people who ask for a screenshot then say screenshots aren't confirmation of anything make me chuckle. Gurumites need to learn to ask for what they want right off the bat. :3
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That I see the item in-game.
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A few (3+) of screenshots of item in trade window, each by different person, preferably people who have good reputation here.
Yawgmoth
I love threads like this <333
Don't close, always fun to read.
And Everyone, Do your screenshots this way:
(my recent drop a few weeks ago)
@Vazze: max req7s without inscription don't drop anymore, but they did for whole 18 months so plenty of them still around.
@Theocrat: I will PAY to see max insc req7 anything, even blue. Don't be shy and show your goods.
Don't close, always fun to read.
And Everyone, Do your screenshots this way:
(my recent drop a few weeks ago)
@Vazze: max req7s without inscription don't drop anymore, but they did for whole 18 months so plenty of them still around.
@Theocrat: I will PAY to see max insc req7 anything, even blue. Don't be shy and show your goods.
ZeusTheGiant
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
@Theocrat: I will PAY to see max insc req7 anything, even blue. Don't be shy and show your goods. |
I would have to agree with this...max insc req7, any color item, i will pay as well to see this.
Borat
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
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No time taken proof, no validation from other people. Everyone, DON'T do your screenshots that way.
spun ducky
Req 7 Max still drop but the areas that use to be farmed and had a decent chance for them are no longer farmed aka vermins. It is still possible to semi farm for them as I have said in the past. If you chest run the reed bog in normal mode every 5-10 inventories full of junk loot you will get one usually purple/gold that isn't perfect but is max dmg and req 7. The odds of actually getting a good one are very low.
zelgadissan
It amuses me that multiple people keep saying max req7's still drop, even inscribable ones, and they claim to get one, but nobody can show a screenshot of one dropping with a Nightfall or EotN skill in their bar, or even a hero in their party, or in the case of inscribable, a screenshot period.
Until proven otherwise, I'm sticking with req8 being as low as you can go. Even if it's purple req7 max with some awful inherent mod like 17v50, I'd accept that as proof.
Until proven otherwise, I'm sticking with req8 being as low as you can go. Even if it's purple req7 max with some awful inherent mod like 17v50, I'd accept that as proof.
360??
Gaile's "confirmation" was vague. The only thing they confirmed was that req 7's still drop. NO information if they could be max, inscribable etc.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by 360°
Gaile's "confirmation" was vague. The only thing they confirmed was that req 7's still drop. NO information if they could be max, inscribable etc.
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Originally Posted by Gaile
I spoke with our designer who specializes in items, John. John told me that yes, Req 7 items do drop, but "they are super rare." John knows his stuff, and if he tells me a definite and immediate "yes," as he did, then I believe that he is certain that his answer is accurate.
He's a busy guy, and I got the answer that was requested. I hope you'll understand that I'd rather not go bug him for "is that max this or that skin or those specs or which campaign or what chest or...?" I think it's cool that they drop, and I guess over time, the odds improve that one will be offered for sale or trade. Well, it may be unless the person who gets the drop values having it over selling it, of course. If I got one, I don't think I'd ever part with it! |
read the bolded and underlined part
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by Borat
Very nice shoop.
No time taken proof, no validation from other people. Everyone, DON'T do your screenshots that way. |
BTW I still got the full screenshot this one got cropped from.
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
Req 7 Max still drop but the areas that use to be farmed and had a decent chance for them are no longer farmed aka vermins. It is still possible to semi farm for them as I have said in the past. If you chest run the reed bog in normal mode every 5-10 inventories full of junk loot you will get one usually purple/gold that isn't perfect but is max dmg and req 7. The odds of actually getting a good one are very low.
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Also, the same code is used to generate base stats of all weapons - common (white/blue), uncommon (purple), and rare (gold), and the connection between req and stats is the same for them. It means that... you may not believe... that max req7 cannot drop even as a common white!
spun ducky
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
What would be a better way to show screenshots then? Imho there's no better way, anything else could still be called a shop.
BTW I still got the full screenshot this one got cropped from. That's completely untrue. The drop generation code was changed globally, increasing the minimum allowed req for max items from 8 to 9. Max req7s before and req8s after update are just aberrations in the stat generation code that appear on a very slight edge of possibility under specific conditions. Also, the same code is used to generate base stats of all weapons - common (white/blue), uncommon (purple), and rare (gold), and the connection between req and stats is the same for them. It means that... you may not believe... that max req7 cannot drop even as a common white! |
360??
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Originally Posted by Gaile View Post
I spoke with our designer who specializes in items, John. John told me that yes, Req 7 items do drop, but "they are super rare." John knows his stuff, and if he tells me a definite and immediate "yes," as he did, then I believe that he is certain that his answer is accurate. He's a busy guy, and I got the answer that was requested. I hope you'll understand that I'd rather not go bug him for "is that max this or that skin or those specs or which campaign or what chest or...?" I think it's cool that they drop, and I guess over time, the odds improve that one will be offered for sale or trade. Well, it may be unless the person who gets the drop values having it over selling it, of course. If I got one, I don't think I'd ever part with it! |
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
First, Gaile confirmed they still drop when she was asked. The second is I have seen them drop in this area from mass amounts of chest running. The third you seem to claim you know the drop code as if you work for anet, but in reality even if you program such as myself the generation code is kept server-side. It is not possible to know that in depth about the drop code based on what they have stated publicly. I suppose I may have to go do some lucky point farming to prove the area. I will make sure I have at least one EOTN skill on my bar so that it can be shown it is at least post eotn release.
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manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by 360°
@Manitoba, now you do the same.
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Yes because we know how VERY SUPER RARE non max req 7 are. Pull your head out and think for once.
The Rift
What amuses me is that some people here still shout that the items don't drop.
While a official talks to a designer who specializes in items and get's a solid confirm from him that they do drop with the quote:
"they are super rare."
And the whole "post screenshot or else it untrue" theory is crap aswell.
less then 4% of all players in Guild Wars come to this forum. And most of them are unactive in the game and spend more time on this forum then actually ingame.
You think if someone is that lucky to get the drop that he or she is even aware what just dropped for them? That they make a screenshot of every drop they get? And besides proven drops were always linked to Prophecies and Faction's witch are the least played area's atm in the game since people play alot in EoTN or other end-game area's(UW/FOW/DoA etc).
Most of us just will have to accept that we will never actually see an item like that drop before us ... simple as that.
While a official talks to a designer who specializes in items and get's a solid confirm from him that they do drop with the quote:
"they are super rare."
And the whole "post screenshot or else it untrue" theory is crap aswell.
less then 4% of all players in Guild Wars come to this forum. And most of them are unactive in the game and spend more time on this forum then actually ingame.
You think if someone is that lucky to get the drop that he or she is even aware what just dropped for them? That they make a screenshot of every drop they get? And besides proven drops were always linked to Prophecies and Faction's witch are the least played area's atm in the game since people play alot in EoTN or other end-game area's(UW/FOW/DoA etc).
Most of us just will have to accept that we will never actually see an item like that drop before us ... simple as that.
MirkoTeran
How about we suspend this thread until someone posts a credible proof of existence.
Yawgmoth
There will be no proof, some people just want to believe it's still possible even when all theory and practice is against them.
People - watch your drops, look at the crappy whites/blues you get, they all use the same generation algorithms - if you get a max req7 WHITE drop it means a GOLD one is also still possible. Screenshot the max white req7 on the ground while still assigned to a player = proof.
I've watched the crappy drops back in 2005 and kept doing it after the nerf at NF release - It was the only real observable change to the drop system and the differences were clearly visible and affected drops in all continents.
People - watch your drops, look at the crappy whites/blues you get, they all use the same generation algorithms - if you get a max req7 WHITE drop it means a GOLD one is also still possible. Screenshot the max white req7 on the ground while still assigned to a player = proof.
I've watched the crappy drops back in 2005 and kept doing it after the nerf at NF release - It was the only real observable change to the drop system and the differences were clearly visible and affected drops in all continents.
Savio
Huh... a req 7/8 thread that has as much information as the last one. That is to say, not much information at all. Closed for pointlessness and endless bickering.