Conjure Flame works for Wands?

papaschtroumpf

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

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Conjure Flame
Enchantment Spell. For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a fire weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 17 fire damage.


I wanted to check that "weapon" includes wands and staves in this context. So that this enchantment can turn my 11-22 fire damage wand into a 27-39 fire damage wand (before the 20% of 11-22 due to customization). If that's the case, it might be worth getting rid of Flare.

infamous16

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

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there are a few conjure wand builds...but they dont really work well, XD.

papaschtroumpf

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

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...but they dont really work well
OK, can you elaborate? I'm just after quick cheap damage, which I currently get with alternating flare and wand. spamming flare does get expensive.
This obviously would not be the focus of the build

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

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I don't think the quick fix is augmenting your wand's strength while simultaneously spamming flare. The problem itself is that flare is on your bar. Go E/A AP promise and your damage problems will be solved.

[ebon vanguard assassin support][you move like a dwarf][assassin's promise][finish him]

NotJustAnothaNinja

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

N/A

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Aura of Resto and Fire Attunement should be very good energy management for and easy spam of flare.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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I read till replacing flare,

Replacing crap with less smelly crap is not the solution

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

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It works, but it's not very effective.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

If you want to get a proper solution instead of a band-aid solution like this, post your entire build and we can find whats wrong with it. Generally with Ele builds, you'll want to get your build to a point where Flare isn't pulling its weight, and if it does in your build theres probably something we can fix.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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Conjure + Wand > Flare.... Doesnt make conjure + wand worth it.

legacyofkain85

legacyofkain85

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Lady Ainowa

i belive that conjure does work with wand and staffs,but tbh i fail to see a reason to waste a skill slot just to wand mobs and a nother skill slot so u can spam flare,stop auto atacking or spamming flare,use your other big damage skills insted ,like MisterT69 posted that build it's preety much auto win.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Yes it would work but its probably not worth it.

At first it seems that a spellcaster using a wand or staff to fire at enemies like any other ranged weapon is the way to go.
Otherwise why are they in the game hey Im a wizard I use wands right ?

Wrong

You can be far more efficient and make kills faster by using skills not weapons.
Its also why many spellcasters use melee weapons and shields, not for attacking with but because they are using the energy health and defence bonuses they give.

Its all wrong but sadly its the way the game mechanics work, any competent group of mages would have created decent wands and staffs years ago.

Where oh where is the wand of fireballs or the staff of the magi that I used and loved when I played D&D

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

It works but really serves not much point you should be worring about [fireball] etc...

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

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Originally Posted by gremlin View Post
Where oh where is the wand of fireballs or the staff of the magi that I used and loved when I played D&D
Roll saving throw NOW, btches!

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by papaschtroumpf View Post
Conjure Flame
Enchantment Spell. For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a fire weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 17 fire damage.


I wanted to check that "weapon" includes wands and staves in this context. So that this enchantment can turn my 11-22 fire damage wand into a 27-39 fire damage wand (before the 20% of 11-22 due to customization). If that's the case, it might be worth getting rid of Flare.
w wh why on earth do you have [flare] on your skill bar?!?!?!?!
w wh why on earth do you want to use [conjure flame] on an Elementalist?!?!?!
w wh why on earth wouldn't you bring [fire attunement] and some nuking skills instead of fail [flare]/[conjure flame]?!?!?!

ok I'm done

Felixious

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sweden

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Originally Posted by zling View Post
w wh why on earth do you have [flare] on your skill bar?!?!?!?!
w wh why on earth do you want to use [conjure flame] on an Elementalist?!?!?!
w wh why on earth wouldn't you bring [fire attunement] and some nuking skills instead of fail [flare]/[conjure flame]?!?!?!

ok I'm done
Why would you post this crap instead of helping out in a constructive way?
I don't play eles very often, but i do know that the conjures are more effective for classes that are able to use it with their skills. There's the Conjure wars, rangers, sins, and dervs.

As a previous poster stated, an ele with Assassins Promise and the set of PvE skills will probably make a huge diffrence in terms of damage. But really, YOU decide what skills you run, if you like flare, bring it, that's why you're able to re-roll your skillbar with a couple of clicks.

Bobulation

Bobulation

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

USA

W/Mo

[[spirit's Strength] + [[conjure flame] + [[Weapon of Aggression]+ wanding= gg

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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If you have decent damage skills on your bar already (NOT [flare]), and room for some more skills, [conjure flame] is decent SUPPORT damage. Don't base a build around it, but if you have a slot or 2 empty with no skills to use, this can work. Just don't expect this to be major damage. I'd also consider [mark of rodgort] if you expect to be wanding.

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed View Post
If you have decent damage skills on your bar already (NOT [flare]), and room for some more skills, [conjure flame] is decent SUPPORT damage. Don't base a build around it, but if you have a slot or 2 empty with no skills to use, this can work. Just don't expect this to be major damage. I'd also consider [mark of rodgort] if you expect to be wanding.
sorry but this suggestion is just sad! why on earth would you have 2 "free skill slots" and why would you waste 1 of those slots on [conjure flame]???

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

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Hi papaschtroumpf, while conjure flame is an elementalist skill it isn't designed to be used on eles. The answer to your question is yes, it works with your wand however as already been said it's not worth it.

Keep in mind that in GW some primary skills are not meant to be used by the primary profession itself. That's why characters have a primary and secondary profession. Skill combinations with 2 professions is the key to good builds.

Teknikaali

Teknikaali

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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[Conjure Flame][Spirit's Strength][Mark of Rodgort][Weapon of Aggression]
RED ENG.. ok you get it..

But what DarkGanni said, it's true:
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Keep in mind that in GW some primary skills are not meant to be used by the primary profession itself.

papaschtroumpf

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

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Originally Posted by Felixious View Post
Why would you post this crap instead of helping out in a constructive way?
Thanks Felixious (and others). There is a bit of newbie hate on these forums, but fortunately there are people that do try to be helpful and answer the "stupid" questions in an educational way.