Alot of Gw hype lately, gw2 qs, adverts on tv, whats next? Will the Books come out?
Darcy
@Kupp - once it is released, you can ask your local bookstore to order it for you. Most do this at no charge and you can pick up at store and pay upon receipt.
stevenrussian
Sounds interesting.
Can't wait till it gets released!
Can't wait till it gets released!
Obrien Xp
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@Kupp - once it is released, you can ask your local bookstore to order it for you. Most do this at no charge and you can pick up at store and pay upon receipt.
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Verene
$10 is pretty average for a paperback book, though. I spend way, waaaaay too much time at the bookstore (<3 the fact that I get the employee discount at Barnes and Noble) and paperbacks generally run $6-15. So yeah. $10 isn't bad at all.
Regina Buenaobra
As of now, the only things that are confirmed are the book title and the author. Everything else -- the number of pages, release date, and price are subject to change. We should have more details for ya later on this year.
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*note to admins, I posted this here because, the gw on chuck thread was in here, so i guessed that it was on similar lines to it.
Now, we should have all heard the news stated by Anet while at PAX that there will be a book series regarding events between eotn and gw2, anet won't leak anything, the publisher won't leak, google can't find it. However, looking here I did find as much information that is possible atm. I shop at Chapters for books, so if you looked on the sites of the store you use (search Guild Wars, not book titles, better chance of finding it) we may get more info. Current info: Title: Guild Wars: Fall of Ascalon Pages: 352 Author/Publisher: Matt Forebeck/Simon & Schuster Release date: April 1, 2010 almost 370 or so days from now Price (here): $10.00can pre-order only atm Here's the link again. http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/...uild+wars%2527 edit: if you didn't know about the books before watch this: 3 years of Guild Wars (2 of 6) its within the first 2min. *note: edit: I would not like to have to tolerate gw2 release date spam, pessimism, trashing, lying etc., I don't want a close for off-topic or immaturity/trolling |
Gun Pierson
So far for the hype part, it hasn't even begun yet. Everybody can breathe again now. 
Kuduz to OP for finding out though.
Kuduz to OP for finding out though.
Abedeus
Am I the only one that doesn't have any idea who hat Matt Forebeck is?
Unless it's Matt Forbeck, but then again it's not a big shot...
Unless it's Matt Forbeck, but then again it's not a big shot...
Arduin
Fall of Ascalon? Come on! A little bit more creativity please.
What's part two called? Rise of the Dragons?
What's part two called? Rise of the Dragons?
Obrien Xp
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As of now, the only things that are confirmed are the book title and the author. Everything else -- the number of pages, release date, and price are subject to change. We should have more details for ya later on this year.
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Looking forward to it.
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Fall of Ascalon? Come on! A little bit more creativity please.
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And my part 2 guess is more like Rise of the Dragon Empire. (Factions empire, with the emperor assimilating the Lux, and Kurz, huge military build up etc.)
Eragon Zarroc
wow, over a year away? =( what a bummer
Black Metal
From what I remember, these books were supposed to be the lore than bridge GW1 and GW2, and my assumption would be that they'd put them out maybe halfway between release of EOTN and GW2 to try to keep interest up. If this book is over a year away, and it's been a year since EOTN released........wow......I'll be preordering GW2 for my unborn son to play.
Obrien Xp
Thats certainly is a possibility though I don't think that they are really going to release them exactly half way until release, I think that they started them once they got the deal, and will release them (just like gw2) when they're finished 
Axwind
What I'm wondering is how they plan to cover 250 years in 3 books that from what I've read here are less than 400 pages each. And what idiot at Anet thought dragons were a good idea? They've been used to death in the fantasy genre. Enough already.
Obrien Xp
Gw has yet to use elves, gnomes, orcs, goblins, other than dwarves and humans, they pretty much made most of them up.
And dragons, its not that bad, I'm actually looking forwards to it.
And dragons, its not that bad, I'm actually looking forwards to it.
Lonesamurai
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Gw has yet to use elves, gnomes, orcs, goblins, other than dwarves and humans, they pretty much made most of them up.
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Obrien Xp
and kunnavag, and the whole Dragon Empire (Cantha)
Lore speculation: Does the activity with dragons and the hostility of the Dragon Empire perhaps have a co-relation?
Lore speculation: Does the activity with dragons and the hostility of the Dragon Empire perhaps have a co-relation?
Scarlett Romanov
kazi_saki
Checked it out in Amazon.
Matt Forbeck has written the Lost Mark Trilogy of the Eberron Fantasy Realm and has co-authored some of those Dungeons and Dragons Settings Books.
I really really really really am praying it isn't one of those really bad Forgotten Realms books (cuz there have been some good ones too :P) since it would kinda be a disappointment and a waste of money.
Matt Forbeck has written the Lost Mark Trilogy of the Eberron Fantasy Realm and has co-authored some of those Dungeons and Dragons Settings Books.
I really really really really am praying it isn't one of those really bad Forgotten Realms books (cuz there have been some good ones too :P) since it would kinda be a disappointment and a waste of money.
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About the Author
MATT FORBECK has written and designed games for more than 14 years, for which he has garnered several awards. His most recent title for Wizards of the Coast was Secret of the Spiritkeeper, the kickoff novel for the Knights of the Silver Dragon™ young reader series for Mirrorstone™ Books. |
Obrien Xp
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Tyvm for finding this.
Now all we need is one for Factions.
Could we perhaps get a sticky on this for when new info arrives
MarlinBackna
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Gw has yet to use elves, gnomes, orcs, goblins, other than dwarves and humans, they pretty much made most of them up.
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I also liked what they did with the dwarves in EoTN. It was kinda funny when I was talking to a friend who didn't play through EoTN yet and he was saying he wanted to be a dwarf warrior in GW2...
Lonesamurai
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I also liked what they did with the dwarves in EoTN. It was kinda funny when I was talking to a friend who didn't play through EoTN yet and he was saying he wanted to be a dwarf warrior in GW2... |
I didn't have the heart to tell him and I'm sure he actually did start crying when they all turned to stone...
I laughed
Axwind
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Notto mention that the dragons have been worked really well into the history, lore and story and hell, look at Drakkar Lake or the Great destroyers creator, or even Glint
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Goat Legged Baki
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Originally Posted by Axwind
I don't know, just for once I'd prefer something not so huge. Something doesn't have to be the size of a leviathan to be a threat. I mean, there's enough going on in the world of GW now that the dragons aren't really needed. The rising of Orr could have been made to have been caused by other means, but Anet wanted dragons. And for once, it would be nice to have an enemy that's more complex than just "I want to own everything." An enemy whose story is tied directly into that of your character and has motivations for doing what he or she does besides just power and conquest.
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Obrien Xp
Please take note that all of the antagonists in GW have had aspirations of domination. Also, the leviathan size of the dragons isn't such a big deal Abbadon was huge.
Axwind
That's the point. It's about time we had something different. Instead of more of the same. And again, how do they expect to cover 250 years in 3 short books?
Obrien Xp
The three short books act as a summary and an expansion on the movement of the world. It's better than nothing eh?
Axwind
I suppose, but that'll inevitably cause it to be a bit rushed.
Miss Puddles
If they wanted to do something "different" they probably wouldn't have made an RPG, no? Dragons and Big Bad Guys are pretty much a requirement :P
Obrien Xp
Finally something intelligent, anet has been off from standard for a long time, its nice to be getting a little ways back in to accomodate the general playing population.
Axwind
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Originally Posted by Miss Puddles
If they wanted to do something "different" they probably wouldn't have made an RPG, no? Dragons and Big Bad Guys are pretty much a requirement :P
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While the dragons are blatant enough enemies, imagine for a moment if Primordus' awakening was not entirely due to his own will. But rather, that it was hastened by another enemy, perhaps a human given power and unnatural long life from some dark source, like Varesh was given power from Abaddon. Only unlike Varesh, this human does not worship the being he or she helps to wake, in this case Primordus. But rather, seeks to use it for his or her own ends, caring not that the awakening of the dragons will set the world in chaos. All that matters for this human is using the dragons' power to achieve his or her own goal, even if it leaves the world in ruins.
And so this hidden enemy would wait, patient and cunning, watching from the shadows as the dragons rise and heroes strive to stop them. Watching as the waking of the dragons tears the world asunder. Only when the dust has begun to settle, and the dragons begin to grow complacent in their power, would this other enemy reveal herself. Only then would she strike, swiftly and without warning. And then the crisis to the world would truly begin.
That's just one possible scenario I wrote to illustrate what I mean by doing something a little more than just having the big bad guy rampaging around the world with his buddies and wreaking stuff just for kicks.
Lady Syve
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I meant different as in the implementation, not necessarily different in what's there. Of course there's gotta be a big enemy, but the large one we see need not be the only one. There could always be a smaller, more hidden enemy as well, with motives of his or her own which may or may not coincide with those of the larger enemy.
(snip) That's just one possible scenario I wrote to illustrate what I mean by doing something a little more than just having the big bad guy rampaging around the world with his buddies and wreaking stuff just for kicks. |
(no offense to your writing capabilities or anything)
Axwind
Well, given the near total lack of character development in most of the GW stories, especially in regards to our own characters (who barely have any dialogue outside cutscenes and accepting quests), along with the fact that every enemy has had the same basic motive - conquest - I don't really trust Anet to pull off the story nearly as well as they could have. And I've written a fair number of stories myself, off and on for a number of years now. So I'm just drawing upon things I've learned from doing it myself.
And as a side note, being published shouldn't be used as a standard for judging one's writing or storytelling ability. I've seen plenty of unpublished works on web forums I've been at that have been light years better than some books I've read.
And as a side note, being published shouldn't be used as a standard for judging one's writing or storytelling ability. I've seen plenty of unpublished works on web forums I've been at that have been light years better than some books I've read.
own age myname
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Well, given the near total lack of character development in most of the GW stories, especially in regards to our own characters (who barely have any dialogue outside cutscenes and accepting quests)
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Axwind
By development I mean story development. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Storywise, our character never changes - he or she is static and fairly emotionless except every now and then. Our character seems more like just a tool to push the story along rather than being an active and dynamic part of it.
Obrien Xp
Wonderful point, thank you for elaborating you opinion regarding the story, and yes I entirely agree with the need for your character to have development in the story, since pre to eotn all we were was tools to let Koss actually have a story in nf.
Another semi antagonist such as Palawa Joko in nf (not as he is in gw2) where he's like a misfit ruler and is quite comical. They're the perfect ones to use for such a person as you mentioned imo because, they're so delusional with their own goals.
When you beat proficies all that happened was you faded into history, locals would cheer you in Kryta as just another White Mantle. In Factions you were simply like Altair Ib-Dhum-lagh (check spelling) from Assassin's Creed, you do the dirty work, and are then forgotten. In nf you may become the highest ranking person in a secret society, or a military organization but you are left in the shadows of Kormir as she ascends to God-hood, (i hated her from the start anyway).
Proficies has the greatest unused potential for character development, there were multiple occasions where things could be done especially in Ascalon, and with the Shining Blade, they just seem to say tyvm now go save us again.
Eotn worked to create character development however it was more with Jora, Gwen, Vekk, and Ogden learning to respect other races differences (omg I feel like I'm back in English class, my teacher would have given me a great mark for this). All through eotn it seems that you ascend into a demi-god like status and are tasked with leading all in an un-known to the general public crusade (perhaps thats where the HoM comes into play, your greatness is finally recognized).
Another semi antagonist such as Palawa Joko in nf (not as he is in gw2) where he's like a misfit ruler and is quite comical. They're the perfect ones to use for such a person as you mentioned imo because, they're so delusional with their own goals.
When you beat proficies all that happened was you faded into history, locals would cheer you in Kryta as just another White Mantle. In Factions you were simply like Altair Ib-Dhum-lagh (check spelling) from Assassin's Creed, you do the dirty work, and are then forgotten. In nf you may become the highest ranking person in a secret society, or a military organization but you are left in the shadows of Kormir as she ascends to God-hood, (i hated her from the start anyway).
Proficies has the greatest unused potential for character development, there were multiple occasions where things could be done especially in Ascalon, and with the Shining Blade, they just seem to say tyvm now go save us again.
Eotn worked to create character development however it was more with Jora, Gwen, Vekk, and Ogden learning to respect other races differences (omg I feel like I'm back in English class, my teacher would have given me a great mark for this). All through eotn it seems that you ascend into a demi-god like status and are tasked with leading all in an un-known to the general public crusade (perhaps thats where the HoM comes into play, your greatness is finally recognized).
Garreth MacLeod
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I meant different as in the implementation, not necessarily different in what's there. Of course there's gotta be a big enemy, but the large one we see need not be the only one. There could always be a smaller, more hidden enemy as well, with motives of his or her own which may or may not coincide with those of the larger enemy. And a more interesting route for this second, more secretive enemy would be that he or she might be using the larger enemy for his or her own purposes. Two enemies of our characters need not necessarily be allies. In fact, it's better if they're not, since it increases the overall conflict and tension.
While the dragons are blatant enough enemies, imagine for a moment if Primordus' awakening was not entirely due to his own will. But rather, that it was hastened by another enemy, perhaps a human given power and unnatural long life from some dark source, like Varesh was given power from Abaddon. Only unlike Varesh, this human does not worship the being he or she helps to wake, in this case Primordus. But rather, seeks to use it for his or her own ends, caring not that the awakening of the dragons will set the world in chaos. All that matters for this human is using the dragons' power to achieve his or her own goal, even if it leaves the world in ruins. And so this hidden enemy would wait, patient and cunning, watching from the shadows as the dragons rise and heroes strive to stop them. Watching as the waking of the dragons tears the world asunder. Only when the dust has begun to settle, and the dragons begin to grow complacent in their power, would this other enemy reveal herself. Only then would she strike, swiftly and without warning. And then the crisis to the world would truly begin. That's just one possible scenario I wrote to illustrate what I mean by doing something a little more than just having the big bad guy rampaging around the world with his buddies and wreaking stuff just for kicks. |