Thats right, I want to know. So you own (much like the rest of us) all the campaigns. and you make a new character for the first few levels (maybe 20?) you have henchies and heros.
But since we all know they steal some of the "best" drops (depending on location and levels of mobs) and I believe they also steal from chests (correct me if i am wrong)
when do you give them up and go solo?
(I added heros to this topic because even heros steal from you)
when do we quit the henchy hand holding?
a-kyle
BlueNovember
Loot scaling makes going solo essentially pointless; hench/heroes will only steal coins, whites, and blues. Possibly purples also.
Golds, Greens, Rare mats, lockpicks(?) etc will not be affected.
The only chests heroes/hench get drops from are those that do not need a key to open, like SF/UW/FoW _quest_ chests.
Golds, Greens, Rare mats, lockpicks(?) etc will not be affected.
The only chests heroes/hench get drops from are those that do not need a key to open, like SF/UW/FoW _quest_ chests.
gerlin
Lolwut?
When we go solo we get pooned by the first mob unless we're a sin...
Second how can heroes steal chest drops? Each chest has his own rates, it all depends on luck if you get a gold or a purple. They do steal mob drops, but i think it's the same as when you would be with a full party of real people.
When we go solo we get pooned by the first mob unless we're a sin...
Second how can heroes steal chest drops? Each chest has his own rates, it all depends on luck if you get a gold or a purple. They do steal mob drops, but i think it's the same as when you would be with a full party of real people.
Bug John
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
Loot scaling makes going solo essentially pointless; hench/heroes will only steal coins, whites, and blues. Possibly purples also.
Golds, Greens, Rare mats, lockpicks(?) etc will not be affected. |
MMSDome
Only when you become powerful enough to obtain the secret level 21 can you roam freely slaying beasts of Tyria, Cantha, and Elona.
SS Necro
Loot is dead, most can't even be given away let alone sold. Just hang out in town and talk smack. It's the popular pastime in game. Then you can find out what the new game is and all the juicy details and jump ship.
Guild wars is now an enhanced avatar based chat program. Remember GW has no monthly fee, so if you stay or go, they still got your money from buying the game(s)
"Strange game, the only winning move is, not to play" Joshua "War Games"
Guild wars is now an enhanced avatar based chat program. Remember GW has no monthly fee, so if you stay or go, they still got your money from buying the game(s)
"Strange game, the only winning move is, not to play" Joshua "War Games"
Black Metal
wow what a dead issue to raise up
if you think you can do just as well with less h&h, then don't bring them
if you need them, then don't complain that they steal their share
simple as that
also, don't confuse pve questing with solo/duo farming
if you think you can do just as well with less h&h, then don't bring them
if you need them, then don't complain that they steal their share
simple as that
also, don't confuse pve questing with solo/duo farming
Chieftain Heavyhand
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Originally Posted by gerlin
Lolwut?
When we go solo we get pooned by the first mob unless we're a sin... |
Bong Bro Zac
heros and henchies dont steal drops anymore than fellow players... you just cant visually see the drops for h/h like you can see other human party members' drops, i have probably gotten my best drops during h/h vanqs. And heros stealing from any chest is just LMAO... guess someone has some bad luck.
FoxBat
Mostly people run H/H when they want to finish missions or vanquishes ASAP, to advance their characters/titles. You farm solo when you want to make money, or else join some elite speed-clear teams. They don't try to do both at once.
That said yes alot of henchies do have questionable additions to the group. People running 7-man (3 heroes from another acct that leaves) are already doing this trick, getting both much faster clear times and slightly more loot.
Edit: as mentioned, scaling doesn't affect golds, greens, or rare mats. Although kill speed does factor into it, a good 6-heroway will probably get less whites/gold per kill, but should be about the same per time. As mentioned, dungeon and locked chests are not affected at all.
That said yes alot of henchies do have questionable additions to the group. People running 7-man (3 heroes from another acct that leaves) are already doing this trick, getting both much faster clear times and slightly more loot.
Edit: as mentioned, scaling doesn't affect golds, greens, or rare mats. Although kill speed does factor into it, a good 6-heroway will probably get less whites/gold per kill, but should be about the same per time. As mentioned, dungeon and locked chests are not affected at all.
BlueNovember
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Originally Posted by Bug John
not really... henchies steal your golds, greens and rare mats, but loot scaling doesn't
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Edit: Ah, ignore me. I fail at pve. Read billypowergamer's post 2 posts down.
Eragon Zarroc
ummm, steal from chests? and what's the difference between henchies getting the drops and real people getting the drops if I don't get the drops ;-)
billypowergamer
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
I don't think this is true any more. I was under the impression that increasing party size increases number of drops proportionally, so although they do "steal" drops, drops are increased to match, so you notice no difference. (This is what loot scailing is)
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling
If you are after anything on the exception list, you are better off going solo.
Raul the Rampant
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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc
ummm, steal from chests? and what's the difference between henchies getting the drops and real people getting the drops if I don't get the drops ;-)
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Skyy High
Um...never? GW is a team game, even if that team is a group of AI companions. Furthermore, most of the time when I'm playing, I'm trying to do something (dungeon, mission, etc), and successfully completing my objective in a decent time span means way more than whatever slight increase in drops I would get by dropping a henchman or two.
To the above: flag your henchies out of radar range so their names turn grey, voila, they don't steal the drops.
To the above: flag your henchies out of radar range so their names turn grey, voila, they don't steal the drops.
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
SF/UW/FoW _quest_ chests.
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Anyway, it's negligibly more beneficial to play with as few party members as possible. Playing with more people allows you to clear areas *faster* regardless of difficulty or possible party size. If you're farming, then there are certain builds and certain areas that can solo/be solo'd. Otherwise, get used to playing with a full party of henchmen, heroes, other players, and combinations of those.
Fay Vert
Because of loot scaling, Hench steal your loot even when you don't party with them!
How stupid is that ANet?
How stupid is that ANet?
snaek
i heard gw was a team game
...then again i heard gw was a multiplayer game, so i could be wrong
...then again i heard gw was a multiplayer game, so i could be wrong
Copenhagen Master
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The only chests heroes/hench get drops from are those that do not need a key to open, like SF/UW/FoW _quest_ chests. |
This part is correct to a certain point. I use to do the kilroy quest all the time in SF with hero/hench and when the chest would popup I would open it and get at most 2 items (purples of course)... but when I flagged them way off radar and opened it. The chest would drop at least 4 items.
Reverend Dr
Once I heard gw was a pvp game.
majikmajikmajik
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Originally Posted by a-kyle
when do we quit the henchy hand holding?
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Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
Loot scaling makes going solo essentially pointless;
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I can go into lets say CoF with full group. Kill every single foe in there and still have half my inventory open.
I go in solo and my inventory is full by second level.
but OT I solo most stuff anyway
Longasc
I give you some piece of advice. unless you deem it very fun to play farming builds and other one-trick ponies, just play the game and hope to win whatever you want in the zaishen lottery.
i only went solo to an explorable if i was intending to farm for something specific.
but regarding your "heroes/henchies stealing drops", i think you are a bit mistaken, as others have already pointed out.
i only went solo to an explorable if i was intending to farm for something specific.
but regarding your "heroes/henchies stealing drops", i think you are a bit mistaken, as others have already pointed out.
Tullzinski
So that is why I cannot get a everlasting tonic from the Z-chest the Master of Whispers is stealing it from me, sneaky SOB.
Snograt
Seems like people are still getting confused between loot scaling and drop allocation...
Nanood
Real life team mates steal from you too.!
Only difference is if it's a H/H i don't have to say.. Damn, lucky bastard, wish that had of dropped for me.
Only difference is if it's a H/H i don't have to say.. Damn, lucky bastard, wish that had of dropped for me.
wilebill
"Once I heard gw was a pvp game."
What is a pvp?
What is a pvp?
DreamWind
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"Once I heard gw was a pvp game."
What is a pvp? |
distilledwill
I never hold henchies hands. I hold heroes hands, or, more often than not, they hold mine.
Livia, Olias and Master of Whispers can be quite a domineering team.
Livia, Olias and Master of Whispers can be quite a domineering team.
Zebideedee
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Hero: When you gonna upgrade my armour and gimme good weapons?
Me: When you gonna use the items you grabbed/stole?
Hero: Shut Up! I'll aggro everything in sight if you keep asking me questions like that, in fact, I'll aggro everything anyway!
Me: /sigh
Avarre
This is pointless.