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LemmonHead

LemmonHead

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hope

Mo/

Just a FYI

Hey guys was about to make my picks for this month....

When i started to type the name of the web site::::


I type www.guildwar.com.....

not

www.guildwars.com

that first one set of all sorts of alarms on my computer.... You guys might notice the missing s... You guys with all the smarts might bring this to someone attention.

If this is old news or just something else, sorry.

DS

Removed the whois it.. since its Anets Thanks Regina

This can be closed now if you guys want.... I'll be hanging in the back again..

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

I can't tell whether you're trying to point something out here or whether you're having computer troubles.

LemmonHead

LemmonHead

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hope

Mo/

Point something out sorry.. just more of a FYI.....

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

bookmark sites and you won't have to worry about mistyping the url?

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

Thanks right the warning?

I don't see it asking for account info/downloads etc. I think it's just a forward to a website.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

hmm... this info looks a little bit personal, imo. not sure if the numbers given, for example, are their personal numbers (too lazy to doublt check, in HA atm and can only briefly read during loading/waiting times xD) but i think this should be deleted if so.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Yeah, you really need to be careful with the URLs. I tried to go to a website once and forgot to use the correct extention... ended up getting an eyeful.

Try contacting anet about this to see if they can do something about the site in question. IMO they should have gobbled up anything close to guildwars.com and common typos to begin with.

LemmonHead

LemmonHead

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hope

Mo/

Well the funny thing is I didnt get a warning on the site, untill I was about to go into the Xunlai House (the site is a copy of the GuildWars site, I mean I full copy)... thats when my computer give the a warning about the certificate information not the same as the web site and that is was trying to collect input data.

Yup I was going to tell ANet, but I put it here because they (ANet) gets on here as well.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

This does look fishy... had it been some sort of redirection page that would be understandable, but this is an exact copy of the actual GW website.

Pretty scary that it gives you access to XTH. Looks like an account access attempt to be honest.

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
hmm... this info looks a little bit personal, imo. not sure if the numbers given, for example, are their personal numbers (too lazy to doublt check, in HA atm and can only briefly read during loading/waiting times xD) but i think this should be deleted if so.
Rofl at the @gmail email addresses. Because I'm so sure anet uses gmail to conduct business.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

WHOIS with [email protected] and the Anet founders as owners!! Definitely a fake one used to phish GW players, a company would never ever do that. Fill out a support ticket (also send an email at: community at guildwars.com) and hopefully Regina will also catch it from this thread.

Well done!

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by pansy malfoy View Post
Rofl at the @gmail email addresses. Because I'm so sure anet uses gmail to conduct business.
as stated i have very little time to actually skim over what was given. all i saw were named of some of the big boys from aNet and then saw phone numbers. and yes, i know they would not use @gmail.com ^^

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

I like how it says guildwar.com. Made me laugh pretty hard.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

hmm... how can they steal your info from this site? i was checking it out quite a bit and when you get to things that include plaync or buying a new campaign or w/e it leads to the real guild wars website. i mean the only thing that i noticed took me to guildwar.com (with no S) was the xunlai tournament house...

i mean... like... lol... unless you're menally special you wouldn't link your XTH log-in to your REAL GW log-in, right? so what are they going to do? predict for you?? lyk3 0h n03s... n0t th4t!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!! ._.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

Quote:
i mean... like... lol... unless you're menally special you wouldn't link your XTH log-in to your REAL GW log-in, right? so what are they going to do? predict for you?? lyk3 0h n03s... n0t th4t!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!! ._.
XTH requires a password and e-mail to log in right? So (s)he collects those and could simply keep trying until (s)he's lucky. Also (s)he might use the info to get into other website accounts.
People who use different passwords for all accounts are probably safe (haven't visited the website myself), but I bet there is a certain % who does not use different passwords.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
i mean... like... lol... unless you're menally special you wouldn't link your XTH log-in to your REAL GW log-in, right? so what are they going to do? predict for you?? lyk3 0h n03s... n0t th4t!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!! ._.
Some people use only one password for all their accounts. Some use the same password for all GW-related accounts. Some will use different passwords but the same email address. Etc.

Of course people then gloats and laugh at these guys and say with a lot of pride "lol you're stupid, you deserver to be hacked". But I'm not sure who's really stupid in that case, this kind of behaviour will rather provoke shame and fear for the hacked person, thus making security problems worse.

If you knew how security works, you'd know that it's a constantly evolving topic that requires adapting quite often. Even security professionals make security mistakes and get hacked, even more sometimes when they are quite visible and high profile.

Lastly, and most importantly, social engineering is an eternal threat, because it's part of who we are as human beings: social beings.

EDIT: I'm very happy that Regina gave some information on how this affair was processed by Anet/NCsoft, it shows how serious they are and that they're working hard to try, whenever possible, to compensate hacked people. Investigating these cases is a huge pain and requires an incredible amount of time-people to avoid making serious mistakes.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

I expect visiting that site results in spyware attempts through tracking cookies. Just run Adaware or some other free program to make sure the jerks don't get to find out about your strange browsing habits.

Banane-O-Man

Banane-O-Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/

Exacly the same thing with Arena.net same address ([email protected]) allocated to arena.net
Usually known as ArenaNet.com.


The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.domain: arena.net
owner: n/a
organization: Arena.net, Inc.
email: [email protected]
address: 10020 Main St. #164
city: Bellevue
state: WA
postal-code: 98004
country: US
phone: +425.4629444
fax: +425.6710589
admin-c: CNET-354982 [email protected]
tech-c: CNET-357631 [email protected]
billing-c: CNET-357656 [email protected]
nserver: ncdns02.ncaustin.com
nserver: ncdns01.ncaustin.com
status: lock
created: 1998-05-06 00:00:00 UTC
modified: 2008-11-03 16:51:37 UTC
expires: 2012-05-05 04:00:00 UTC

contact-hdl: CNET-354982
person: Mike O’Brien
organization: Arena.net, Inc.
email: [email protected]
address: 10020 Main St. #164
city: Bellevue
state: WA
postal-code: 98004
country: US
phone: +425.4629444

contact-hdl: CNET-357631
person: Patrick Wyatt
organization: Arena.net, Inc.
email: [email protected]
address: 227 Bellevue Way NE #75
address: Bellevue
city: Bellevue
state: WA
postal-code: 98004-5721
country: US
phone: +1.4254629444

contact-hdl: CNET-357656
person: Jeff Strain
organization: Arena.net, Inc.
email: [email protected]
address: 227 Bellevue Way NE #75
city: Bellevue
state: WA
postal-code: 98004
country: US
phone: +1.4254629444

source: joker.com live whois service
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Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

Okay, I take it back, they are retarded enough to use gmail for business O_O

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Guildwar.com and GuildWars.com and ArenaNet.com and Arena.net are all on the same name server. (We won't even talk about how bad having a copy of your website on another URL is for their SEO either, even though they are the official site they could be weighted higher). Why they use gmail is beyond me. I would have completely assumed it was a phishing site. Guess not. What alarms did it set off Lemmonhead?

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

The gmail accounts are probably used as throwaways. Don't want random spam in your main email account.

-Sonata-

-Sonata-

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Pretty Hate Machines [NIN]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsumi View Post
The gmail accounts are probably used as throwaways. Don't want random spam in your main email account.
This :-)

My domain is also registered under a gmail address. If an email addy is going to be shown in WHOIS lookups, I want it to be an email spam-can account (MSN, gmail, yahoo...) and not my ISP, or @domain account.

The gmail account I used is a haven for spam now. The provider and domain accounts are free of such annoyance.

LemmonHead

LemmonHead

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hope

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde View Post
Guildwar.com and GuildWars.com and ArenaNet.com and Arena.net are all on the same name server. (We won't even talk about how bad having a copy of your website on another URL is for their SEO either, even though they are the official site they could be weighted higher). Why they use gmail is beyond me. I would have completely assumed it was a phishing site. Guess not. What alarms did it set off Lemmonhead?

this is what FireFox does when you try to go into the XTH....

Secure Connection Failed

www.guildwar.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is only valid for www.guildwars.com

(Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

* This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server.

* If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later.

Or you can add an exception…

Like i said if its a site that is own by Anet then coolness.. if not then its a FYI for you guys...

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

I confirm that http://guildwar.com does belong to us.

The web team has been notified of this thread and your concerns. They have set http://guildwar.com to redirect to http://www.guildwars.com.

In addition, http://www.guildwar.com/competitive/...se/default.php will be redirect to https://www.guildwars.com/competitiv...se/default.php

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

That's some pretty prompt customer relations. GG.

Now ban leechers and bots from Fort Aspenwood.

Ty!

Banane-O-Man

Banane-O-Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/

Thank you Regina, you're the best!

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

I had Mozilla/Firefox go off about this site for a couple of days. Said it was a malicious site and when I googled it google said the same thing. It lasted a couple of days and then all of a sudden it disappeared and I was able to goto this site again. Makes me wonder what happened to cause Firefox and Google to go off that way about this site?

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

Huh, so is phishing from similar website?

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya View Post
I had Mozilla/Firefox go off about this site for a couple of days. Said it was a malicious site and when I googled it google said the same thing. It lasted a couple of days and then all of a sudden it disappeared and I was able to goto this site again. Makes me wonder what happened to cause Firefox and Google to go off that way about this site?
IIRC Firefox uses Google's SafeSurf thingie to display messages about "phishy" websites (it happened to Guru when there was a nasty outbreak of spyware'd googleads?), and from personal experience it has quite a lot of "false positives", i.e. non-malicious websites being rated potentially malicious.

GG Regina.

(and I was wondering why Jeff, Patt and Mike weren't answering to my emails ... )