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Being a former ventaris mod (and a fairly strict one) changing the bump time would have no impact what so ever. I allowed a 15min deviation from the rule max. Funny thing about most early bumpers is they were still online when their bump was due. Most bans were easily avoidable. Repeat offenders were the most annoying, and suffered for it.
I was 'recruited' when the relaxed rules were in effect, and the place was a quagmire of badness. Stuey and I done a good job of moping it up though
I loved the people who deleted bumps then played stupid afterwards. Good times
Miss the abusive PMs too, made me chuckle.
I was 'recruited' when the relaxed rules were in effect, and the place was a quagmire of badness. Stuey and I done a good job of moping it up though
I loved the people who deleted bumps then played stupid afterwards. Good times
Miss the abusive PMs too, made me chuckle.
I missed this thread and *I* was the culprit
The guy was banned because the bump he deleted was early, and on top of it he bumped it again (the 2 m early bump).
There was a bump on:
Mar 24, 2009, 02:11 PM
and then the deleted bump:
Mar 25, 2009, 12:43 PM
that is 90 m early, not 2 minutes, and the reason for the ban.
if we changed the bump rule to 22 hours, then people would bump their threads after 20 hours.
Each post has the time you posted. Check the time of your last post and there should be no reason to bump it too early.
The guy was banned because the bump he deleted was early, and on top of it he bumped it again (the 2 m early bump).
There was a bump on:
Mar 24, 2009, 02:11 PM
and then the deleted bump:
Mar 25, 2009, 12:43 PM
that is 90 m early, not 2 minutes, and the reason for the ban.
if we changed the bump rule to 22 hours, then people would bump their threads after 20 hours.
Each post has the time you posted. Check the time of your last post and there should be no reason to bump it too early.
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I'd rather see the some of the mod's sayings be addressed.
i.e. I've seen "people are stupid" as tags. And something along lines of you cant escape my thread lock. If i was working at a company and had a "people are stupid" sign in my office, i bet that wouldnt sit well with the companies image.
I dont feel as though its a good idea for mod's to represent their own forum in either negative or brash ways.
i.e. I've seen "people are stupid" as tags. And something along lines of you cant escape my thread lock. If i was working at a company and had a "people are stupid" sign in my office, i bet that wouldnt sit well with the companies image.
I dont feel as though its a good idea for mod's to represent their own forum in either negative or brash ways.
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REDdelever: We do not limit our moderator's right to creativity concerning their signatures or custom user titles AS LONG as these do not cross certain lines.
"people are stupid" - is something of a catch phrase for the TV character portrayed the same moderator's avatar.
The statement does not suggest that any particular person is more stupid than another. If I do not feel insulted,- neither should you.
"you can troll you can spam but you can't, escape, my thread lock" - all this really says is: you can break the rules, but I will stop you if you do".
What exactly do you think is wrong about that?
You also forgot my signature, which implies that some people are slow learners where rules and guidelines are concerned and lead such unfortunates to knowledge.
A statement I stand by, as I have enough proof to fill a book.
This is not a company. All our moderators lend a hand here in their spare time. As such we do not require: suits, ties, certain hair styles or conform user titles/avatars/signatures.
You seem to suggest that the rules do not apply equally (if you can't take a joke). May I remind you that the moderator's function here is to keep: threads on topic insulting or provocative comments out useless or redundant threads from taking up spaceusers from breaking the rules to gain trade advantage
etc.
We do not delete comments or threads for personal reasons, we do so to keep things fair, polite and and on topic.
If, by fair you mean you get to decide what you can and cannot do: you are right! As I have said before, this forum is not a democracy!
We do however have sound reason for all our policies, and we are not afraid to discuss our actions if you do not understand these.
As it has been stated many times: if you feel a moderator has treated you unfairly, talk to him. If the two of you can't reach an agreement and you still feel wronged: write to an administrator.
"people are stupid" - is something of a catch phrase for the TV character portrayed the same moderator's avatar.
The statement does not suggest that any particular person is more stupid than another. If I do not feel insulted,- neither should you.
"you can troll you can spam but you can't, escape, my thread lock" - all this really says is: you can break the rules, but I will stop you if you do".
What exactly do you think is wrong about that?
You also forgot my signature, which implies that some people are slow learners where rules and guidelines are concerned and lead such unfortunates to knowledge.
A statement I stand by, as I have enough proof to fill a book.
This is not a company. All our moderators lend a hand here in their spare time. As such we do not require: suits, ties, certain hair styles or conform user titles/avatars/signatures.
You seem to suggest that the rules do not apply equally (if you can't take a joke). May I remind you that the moderator's function here is to keep: threads on topic insulting or provocative comments out useless or redundant threads from taking up space
We do not delete comments or threads for personal reasons, we do so to keep things fair, polite and and on topic.
If, by fair you mean you get to decide what you can and cannot do: you are right! As I have said before, this forum is not a democracy!
We do however have sound reason for all our policies, and we are not afraid to discuss our actions if you do not understand these.
As it has been stated many times: if you feel a moderator has treated you unfairly, talk to him. If the two of you can't reach an agreement and you still feel wronged: write to an administrator.
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If I do not feel insulted,- neither should you.
Thank you for proving my point about there are some issues that could be addressed. Please dont ever tell me how i should feel or not feel. This is not your MOD given right. (or your god given right)
And as far as creativity...its not creative to be brash.
And you can remind me all you want on what a moderator function here is.
The fact still remains, moderators need to carry themselves in a way that reflects what you want users to do on the forums.
For some to say ...iF you cant take a joke, then you should disconnect could be somewhat expected from teenagers, not a mod on a forum. ITs not polite....yet you just said about keeping things polite.
I never said i had a problem with a specific mod. I simply disagree with some tags/signatures. I feel as though these can insult others, i have no problem bringing it up as an issue. I didnt try to call in the National Guard.
And as far as creativity...its not creative to be brash.
And you can remind me all you want on what a moderator function here is.
The fact still remains, moderators need to carry themselves in a way that reflects what you want users to do on the forums.
For some to say ...iF you cant take a joke, then you should disconnect could be somewhat expected from teenagers, not a mod on a forum. ITs not polite....yet you just said about keeping things polite.
I never said i had a problem with a specific mod. I simply disagree with some tags/signatures. I feel as though these can insult others, i have no problem bringing it up as an issue. I didnt try to call in the National Guard.
We have a number of policies here on this forum. Many of them have already been mentioned throughout the rest of this thread and other threads as of late. One of the main precepts here is that if you have a problem, you take it to that person directly. You do not post publicly in a thread. There is no need for the entire community to be brought in on something that is between you and one other person or a few other people. It only serves to call public attention to whatever issue you may have, which is unneeded. This is not a democracy, so it doesn't matter if everyone else agrees with you or not.
If you believe someone is acting in a manner that is unacceptable for whatever reason, please contact them. If you don't feel you're making any progress with that person, or do not want to contact them directly, contact our administrative staff. Inde is the chief admin among that group. I am sure they would be happy to take care of any issues you might have.
But let me reiterate: if you have a problem, do not post it. Violating the guidelines of this forum is no way to ingratiate yourself with the staff or get your problem sorted out quickly. Contact the appropriate people directly.
If you believe someone is acting in a manner that is unacceptable for whatever reason, please contact them. If you don't feel you're making any progress with that person, or do not want to contact them directly, contact our administrative staff. Inde is the chief admin among that group. I am sure they would be happy to take care of any issues you might have.
But let me reiterate: if you have a problem, do not post it. Violating the guidelines of this forum is no way to ingratiate yourself with the staff or get your problem sorted out quickly. Contact the appropriate people directly.
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Originally Posted by REDdelver
Thank you for proving my point about there are some issues that could be addressed. Please dont ever tell me how i should feel or not feel. This is not your MOD given right. (or your god given right)
You totally missed my point. What I meant was: "people are stupid" applies equally to me as to you. Since I do not feel slighted,- there should be no reason why you should.
If you do feel slighted that is your right,- just don't expect us to take that seriously.
Quote: Originally Posted by REDdelver
Thank you for proving my point about there are some issues that could be addressed. Please dont ever tell me how i should feel or not feel. This is not your MOD given right. (or your god given right)
You totally missed my point. What I meant was: "people are stupid" applies equally to me as to you. Since I do not feel slighted,- there should be no reason why you should.If you do feel slighted that is your right,- just don't expect us to take that seriously.
Quote: Originally Posted by REDdelver
And as far as creativity...its not creative to be brash.
Please do not assume it is your right to define creativity!
Fine REDelver, be picky.
You shouldn't feel offended. In fact, you shouldn't demonstrate such an infantile mentality towards this whole issue.
It's unnatural to be offended by the general statement, "People Are Stupid". If you were so secure in your knowledge of your own intelligence, then you wouldn't care.
Such nitpicks are retarded. And please pc police, censure me for my use of retarded!
You shouldn't feel offended. In fact, you shouldn't demonstrate such an infantile mentality towards this whole issue.
It's unnatural to be offended by the general statement, "People Are Stupid". If you were so secure in your knowledge of your own intelligence, then you wouldn't care.
Such nitpicks are retarded. And please pc police, censure me for my use of retarded!
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REDdelver, if you feel that a moderator's sig or title is crossing a line of decency please bring that to my attention. I have indeed asked mods and forum users many times to change their signatures and things of that nature.
Also, you misunderstand the point of what I recruit moderators to do I believe. While a certain amount of decency and common sense is required, we are gamers. We are not a business. We are not a professional institution of any kind. To attempt to create one or give the appearance of one would only alienate us from the players. Since we are players ourselves you will find a wide variety of professions, ages, backgrounds and personalities amongst the moderators. I don't expect them to behave all the time! Why? Because we are all here to help each other, both the community and the moderators. We are here to mingle and talk about Guild Wars. We are here to sometimes egg each other on, have fun, laugh at ourselves, encourage competition and become a community that is familiar with one another. It's a difficult line to manage, I would never come to this forum every day if I couldn't vent, laugh, smirk or use a bit of sarcasm every now and then because this isn't a job. This is our playtime. And I fully encourage and expect the users to, within the realm of common sense and decency, to do the same!
Also, you misunderstand the point of what I recruit moderators to do I believe. While a certain amount of decency and common sense is required, we are gamers. We are not a business. We are not a professional institution of any kind. To attempt to create one or give the appearance of one would only alienate us from the players. Since we are players ourselves you will find a wide variety of professions, ages, backgrounds and personalities amongst the moderators. I don't expect them to behave all the time! Why? Because we are all here to help each other, both the community and the moderators. We are here to mingle and talk about Guild Wars. We are here to sometimes egg each other on, have fun, laugh at ourselves, encourage competition and become a community that is familiar with one another. It's a difficult line to manage, I would never come to this forum every day if I couldn't vent, laugh, smirk or use a bit of sarcasm every now and then because this isn't a job. This is our playtime. And I fully encourage and expect the users to, within the realm of common sense and decency, to do the same!
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Fine REDelver, be picky.
You shouldn't feel offended. In fact, you shouldn't demonstrate such an infantile mentality towards this whole issue.
It's unnatural to be offended by the general statement, "People Are Stupid". If you were so secure in your knowledge of your own intelligence, then you wouldn't care.
Such nitpicks are retarded. And please pc police, censure me for my use of retarded! LOLZ
I'll tell you same, Please dont tell me what i should feel and shouldnt feel. Last time I checked, people who arent secure with their intelligence don't speak up and say whats on their mind. I simply said something that was on my mind. Taking things way beyond left field, doesnt mean you hit a homerun.
The more I see, The more I Learn, The more I learn, The more I pass along, The more I pass along, The more I infect. An infectious smile can breathe life into a million faces. Seeing beyond the breath...is living.
No worries, this is my final post.
You shouldn't feel offended. In fact, you shouldn't demonstrate such an infantile mentality towards this whole issue.
It's unnatural to be offended by the general statement, "People Are Stupid". If you were so secure in your knowledge of your own intelligence, then you wouldn't care.
Such nitpicks are retarded. And please pc police, censure me for my use of retarded! LOLZ
I'll tell you same, Please dont tell me what i should feel and shouldnt feel. Last time I checked, people who arent secure with their intelligence don't speak up and say whats on their mind. I simply said something that was on my mind. Taking things way beyond left field, doesnt mean you hit a homerun.
The more I see, The more I Learn, The more I learn, The more I pass along, The more I pass along, The more I infect. An infectious smile can breathe life into a million faces. Seeing beyond the breath...is living.
No worries, this is my final post.
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Originally Posted by eskerod
And all i hear as answer - we make the rules - obey them - or get banned - or dont use our site.
But unfortuanlly we dont have other sites to go to - and thats why i thought that it could be a nice thing - to be more userfriendly here on guru. When you create an account on guru you're asked to read the terms of service, when you click the "Yes I agree" button, you're agreeing to obey the rules or get banned. If you don't agree, you don't get to use the site. Simple, no?
http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/
(I didn't see this addressed really, but if I missed it I'll delete this. :P)
But unfortuanlly we dont have other sites to go to - and thats why i thought that it could be a nice thing - to be more userfriendly here on guru. When you create an account on guru you're asked to read the terms of service, when you click the "Yes I agree" button, you're agreeing to obey the rules or get banned. If you don't agree, you don't get to use the site. Simple, no?
http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/
(I didn't see this addressed really, but if I missed it I'll delete this. :P)
