Conficker C April 1
Junato
This is a discussion about the Conficker C that is supposebly going to come april 1st. I know what it does. The virus hacks all sites and computers making them produce network viral infections to all computers making them all bots. So far it has infected 9,000,000 computers. What is your take on it?
What will this mean to us as gw players?
What will this mean to us as gw players?
Sjeng
strange april fools joke is strange... or rather not funny.
Fril Estelin
This is very serious (the "virus" bit, not the "April 1st" bit):
http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/935
The only way to prevent a (possible) catastrophy is to use the virus effect against this virus: viral propagation of the news that people need to patch their system, keep Windows fully updated and follow these professional advices:
http://extremesecurity.blogspot.com/...ke-pro-my.html
(it's so serious that the industry has set up a "Conficker Cabal" to try to fight this phenomenon; the virus uses state-of-the-art research that may make it extremely "sticky")
EDIT: a Q&A to read:
http://www.securityfocus.com/blogs/1802
http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/935
The only way to prevent a (possible) catastrophy is to use the virus effect against this virus: viral propagation of the news that people need to patch their system, keep Windows fully updated and follow these professional advices:
http://extremesecurity.blogspot.com/...ke-pro-my.html
(it's so serious that the industry has set up a "Conficker Cabal" to try to fight this phenomenon; the virus uses state-of-the-art research that may make it extremely "sticky")
EDIT: a Q&A to read:
http://www.securityfocus.com/blogs/1802
jiggles
I don't belive for a second its infect "over 9 million" computers. It's just like Storm, overly hyped up and in the end useless. 5k says nothing happens.
Fril Estelin
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I don't belive for a second its infect "over 9 million" computers. It's just like Storm, overly hyped up and in the end useless. 5k says nothing happens.
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jiggles
Microsoft has never done anything to earn/gain my trust, theyre not going to get it because some other company agrees with them.
Junato
I would like to say right now no one cares, yet they will when they get infected.
jiggles
Which isnt going to happen, people don't care because they have windows update on, and set it to automaticly install any new updates. Anyone with half a brain anyways. And considering the update has been out since october anyone who gets infected deserves it.
Fril Estelin
Some estimates say 12millions over all the worm variants. So more conservative numbers only quote 1-2 millions for variant B.
The problem lies with those people that are already infected and the people they can safely reach. It's the classical security problem of "perimeters", the worm is already inside "trusted" places.
You may soon start communicating via ProgramXYZ with someone infected, not knowing that behind the scene Net-Worm.Win32.Kido is installing itself silently because you have service A running but not service B (which friends told you to deactivate because it takes resources and serves no real purpose, and it makes games lag!).
Someone with half a brain like yours should have caught that! Surely if you get infected you deserve it!
(disclaimer: the scenario above is purely theoretical and only presented so that you can understand the problem is not as simple as stated; we surely won't talk 0day exploit here...)
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And considering the update has been out since october anyone who gets infected deserves it.
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You may soon start communicating via ProgramXYZ with someone infected, not knowing that behind the scene Net-Worm.Win32.Kido is installing itself silently because you have service A running but not service B (which friends told you to deactivate because it takes resources and serves no real purpose, and it makes games lag!).
Someone with half a brain like yours should have caught that! Surely if you get infected you deserve it!
(disclaimer: the scenario above is purely theoretical and only presented so that you can understand the problem is not as simple as stated; we surely won't talk 0day exploit here...)
jiggles
If what you said translates into ;
I turned off service x to get better pings on online games and in the meantime compromised my computers security
Then yeah you deserve it.
I turned off service x to get better pings on online games and in the meantime compromised my computers security
Then yeah you deserve it.
Tyla
Doesn't this particular virus evade most security too? To be honest I've heard that it actually got into some of the most hidden files and shit (I dunno, military information, criminal records? I forgot what the story was, I just remember)
Fril Estelin
No it doesn't. It's got into these places (including UK's MoD...) because someone inadvertently "opened the door" to the worm, which then spread inside like it's designed to do.
FYI, the current versions of the worm are purely propagating, so they don't "harm" your computer other than being present while they shouldn't be there. But the problem is that it can transform into pretty much anything by downloading a new version using various mechanisms.
If you're protected by the latest Windows, antivirus and application updates, you shouldn't be at risk at all. But spread the word, so that people at risk have the time to fix the problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker#Removal
FYI, the current versions of the worm are purely propagating, so they don't "harm" your computer other than being present while they shouldn't be there. But the problem is that it can transform into pretty much anything by downloading a new version using various mechanisms.
If you're protected by the latest Windows, antivirus and application updates, you shouldn't be at risk at all. But spread the word, so that people at risk have the time to fix the problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker#Removal
Kanyatta
AidinSwiftarrow
My mom heard about this on 60 minutes :P
She said it originated from some 14 yr old(s) in Russia...
Anywho...this kind of stuff scares the bejesus out of me :S
She said it originated from some 14 yr old(s) in Russia...
Anywho...this kind of stuff scares the bejesus out of me :S
RedNova88
On topic: I pray this doesn't get any worse than it already is. It's sad knowing that shit like this will never stop. No matter how strong an anti-virus or firewall becomes, there is always some determined hacker digging a hole through your defenses.
zwei2stein
Most dangerous thing about it is its ability to be updated ...
You can easily stop it by good computer hygiene now, but it can be updated with new ways to infect: network with million nodes is very effective at hunting down exploitable systems before they get patched. So much for "deserving infection".
It is harmless right now, doing nothing but breeding, but it can be updated with payload at any point. And since it is probably network for hire ... well, lots of bad stuff can be happening.
You can easily stop it by good computer hygiene now, but it can be updated with new ways to infect: network with million nodes is very effective at hunting down exploitable systems before they get patched. So much for "deserving infection".
It is harmless right now, doing nothing but breeding, but it can be updated with payload at any point. And since it is probably network for hire ... well, lots of bad stuff can be happening.
Junato
Uhm.... Its not a joke... Look it up in wikipedia and in google... Look at the facts...
Glodrion
I think i actually have the vir
Sir Skullcrasher
I wonder once the virus hits tomorrow (4/1)
A) All the infected computers turn into spambots
B) All the computers get their information (personal kind) stolen ASAP
C) Hacker(s) use your computers as a relay for some crazy shit
D) Who ever it is... give us access to GW 2 beta! lol
E) Turn out it's the North Koreans *GASP*.. they're going to use all the computers to hijack japan's network! lol
A) All the infected computers turn into spambots
B) All the computers get their information (personal kind) stolen ASAP
C) Hacker(s) use your computers as a relay for some crazy shit
D) Who ever it is... give us access to GW 2 beta! lol
E) Turn out it's the North Koreans *GASP*.. they're going to use all the computers to hijack japan's network! lol
sickle of carnage
Just the fact that whoever did this is a *insert nasty word*er and put it on April 1st so nobody knew if it was a joke or real makes me angry.
Rhamia Darigaz
it's officially tomorrow and an explosion didn't happen...
i think it was an april fools joke
i think it was an april fools joke
tortugan
It's prolly nothing, as others already said, just keep your PC firewall up to be sure.
Karuro
Did she play .hack// ?
As the Pluto's Kiss virus from that series was made by a kid around that age :P
Sidenote, news here said something about the creator being in China or something.
As the Pluto's Kiss virus from that series was made by a kid around that age :P
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In the real world, Pluto's Kiss, a virus written by a ten-year-old elementary school student, caused a simultaneous crash of all computers and network control systems on the Internet that did not run on the ALTIMIT OS, which subsequently became the dominant operating system worldwide. The Twilight Incident, also known as Pluto Again, and the Second Network Crisis is the series of disasters depicted in the .hack//Games. It involves the massive blackout and system shutdown at Yokohama, which results in multiple car accidents, fires throughout the city, various other system malfunctions in other parts of Japan, and various players of The World ending up comatose. It is caused by the glitching Morganna System, though it is eventually resolved with the full awakening of Aura. Kazushi Watarai is held responsible, despite being hospitalized for the majority of the incident. |
Junato
I would just like to say this was a fun discussion. Turns out that the virus will only infect the computers that already have another variant of the conficker virus.
Fril Estelin
Karate Jesus
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I would just like to say this was a fun discussion. Turns out that the virus will only infect the computers that already have another variant of the conficker virus.
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Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29981552/ and other outside links from that site.
Tarun
Verify that you have KB958644 installed. It was released October 15, 2008. If you wish scan your computer with applications like Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, SUPERAntiSpyware and Spybot S&D. If you need help getting these programs you can download my Anti-Malware Toolkit and get the Professional package.
Winterclaw
Here's something I heard about it: a virus alert.
AidinSwiftarrow
Yeah, I had a virus and Malware-Bytes removed it...(not Conficker :P)
I have Malware-Bytes and FSeasyclean on my computer. Plus Norton 360...
I'd guess I'm pretty damn protected.
I have Malware-Bytes and FSeasyclean on my computer. Plus Norton 360...
I'd guess I'm pretty damn protected.
Lord Sojar
<font color="red">Ok, take your silly shenanigans to OT. I have taken the liberty of deleting all the irrelevant posts from this thread. You can send complaints to my PM box, which I will make sure not to check. </font>
Conficker/Downadup is a serious threat, and the effects of today's update remain to be seen, at least as of this post.
Conficker/Downadup is a serious threat, and the effects of today's update remain to be seen, at least as of this post.
Fril Estelin
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Conficker/Downadup is a serious threat, and the effects of today's update remain to be seen, at least as of this post.
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http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/936
Junato
Elder III
At this time nobody knows the extent of harm that may have occurred or has yet to occur or may never occur.... practice good computer habits, stop downloading porn, and don't waste server space with useless conjecture. We know it is a serious threat and beyond that we don't know what will happen with it....
peace out
peace out
Lord Sojar
I've actually grown quite tired of this thread and its speculation, blah blah blah. Once the effects are seen, if you would like to make a more serious thread about the issue and preventing it, feel free. Until then, keep silly April fools discussions to OT, where they belong.
So, without further to do....
<font color="red">Closed</font>
So, without further to do....
<font color="red">Closed</font>