Damage focused Paragon

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

So, as I get very bored of the imbagon build very easily, I've been working on bigger damage paragon builds and I came up with this:

[Wearying Offense;AZMyJWuoLludVsiJTCh9WGjNTC]

Spear Mastery headgear +1 spear mastery rune
+1 motivation
+1 Leadership

Basically, I'd use it with an Orders hero. Both "Dodge This!" and Wearying Spear will be able to be spammed on hit, and "Dodge This!" should trigger Purifying Finale to rid yourself of weakness.

Please keep opinions and suggestions constructive and civil.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Bad skillbar. Is that what you want to hear?
It adds nothing to the team but some mediocre damage.
No ias on a skillbar instantly makes it bad.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

Interesting!

No ias on a skillbar does not make it bad. You need ias to build adrenaline, but if you have enough adrenaline already, then you do not need the ias. The extra autoattacks don't do much damage.

This build is designed to spam Wearying Spear. Looks like it does a good job of that.

Think I would get rid of Signet of Synergy.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilebill View Post
Interesting!

No ias on a skillbar does not make it bad. It does. An ias can almost double your damage output. Yes also on this bar.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

yeah, spears are to slow without ias. i like the idea of dodge this with constant double adren, but weakness everytime u use ur spear attack isn't going to fly, lol

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

He would to spend another slot to keep agressive up between battles... but yes IAS is essential if you want to maximize damage output.

Maybe something like this

[Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Asuran Scan][Focused Anger][For Great Justice!][Dodge This!][Wearying Spear][Purifying Finale][Frenzy]

Dunno if that's enough energy, may work better with [Go for the Eyes]. It's alot of effort to spam wearying, I'd much rather be spamming deep wound somehow.

ryan__ryan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

Vanquished Memories [VM]

Mo/

Paras do awful damage in pve and u should just accept it. In pve it's a purely defensive character and that's all there's to it

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

If you're not running [aggressive refrain] and spamming [save yourselves], then perhaps you could use [soldier's fury] and drop [focused anger]+[for great justice], thus giving yourself an extra skillslot and gaining an IAS.

[signet of synergy] is pretty lame, especially if you plan to run this with an orders hero.

[go for the eyes] adds more damage than you think, especially if you have minions among your allies.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheodenKing View Post
If you're not running [aggressive refrain] and spamming [save yourselves], then perhaps you could use [soldier's fury] and drop [focused anger]+[for great justice], thus giving yourself an extra skillslot and gaining an IAS.
You'd still need a sustainable shout/chant that affects yourself.

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Originally Posted by TheodenKing View Post
[go for the eyes] adds more damage than you think, especially if you have minions among your allies. Don't leave home without it (unless you also pack SY!)

No IAS sucks, people saying Para's can't deal damage are dumb.

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

[soldiers fury] is way more fun than [focused anger]

[i am the strongest] and [theres nothing to fear] would be options with decent benefits, otherwise you'll end up taking something useless but easier to maintain [cant touch this]

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

*facepalm*

I guess this is what I get for posting on Guru

But yes, using Frenzy is an option I considered, but I still don't like the idea of having it without a cancel stance, and AR is just plain out because it would mess up the attack spam and Soldier's fury is not in there because the point is to spam wearying strike every hit, which you cannot do in that case.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

[Soldier's Fury][Enduring Harmony][For Great Justice!][Wearying Spear][Purifying Finale][Dodge This!][Asuran Scan][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor] - ugly 10s downtime though. You could use celerity but then you hardly need IAS.

Drunken master + booze (or even without booze) in place of frenzy on my earlier build will work - probably much better given the energy costs. Some IAS + Ebon Standard should increase damage over the OP build.

And yeah, the cracked armor of AR messes up the wearying thing, your finale removes that instead of weakness. There are probably better skills to make a damage build around, but those are the constraints for this one.

arturfel

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

P/W

here ur damage

[build prof=P/? comma=6 lea=11 spe=12][you move like a dwarf][go for the eyes][i am the strongest][cruel spear][spear of fury (luxon)][blazing spear][aggressive refrain][signet of return][/build]

bring an anthen if u are the only paragon. Since i use the others 2 paragons heros, fall back keep the agressive refrain betwen battles

Melissa Is HOT

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

America

W/E

it won't work... when u use dodge this you will lose a strike of adrenaline and thus can't use wearying spear until after a normal attack so all u can hope for is to alternate between dodge this w/ normal attack then wearying spear... awful damage compared to other builds

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

As ridiculous as your name and typing skills are, I kind of overlooked the fact. Ok, so you can spam it -every- hit, but it's still good and still does very nice damage :P

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

This build isn't intense on adrenaline, but you should go for more IAS if possible.

Also, instead of Wearying spear + motivation crap, why not go /E for Conjure and an IAS of some sort? FGJ is great, but usually you don't need to have 24/7 adren gain if you're not going Imba.

Just +10 from conjure or so plus IAS adds up significantly.

EBSoH is something you should add in as well.

AtomicMew

AtomicMew

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/A

Interesting idea, but get rid of those useless self-heals.

I'm surprised no one suggestion [Drunken Master]. It's the easiest IAS and doubles as an IMS for running.

Stealth Bomberman

Stealth Bomberman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

I like the idea of [purifying finale] and [wearying spear]. [focused anger] is inferior to [soldiers fury]. Poeple have already suggested some decent builds.

Sifow Chan

Sifow Chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

P/

Paras can be good damage dealers as well as party boosters. The only thing paras should have though is something to make spears fly faster kind of like the Ranger prep. But ias, I guess is a good alternative.

Does purifying finale get rid of weakness from wearing right as you use it o-O? I never really considered trying it lolz.

Sifow Chan

Sifow Chan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

P/

Well I hate the whole motivation tree so :>

As for spear attacks moving twice as fast, ya there are some but I mean a skill that makes them all move fast. Disrupting throw is BS without moving faster.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

They all move pretty fast if you ask me