I use the 3 Necro in HM and i did all the miss in YOTN HM ( in DD i had problems killing Disk ) bunt can i improve them ? i want to do dungeons , can some one help me to improve ? TNX.
http://www.mypicx.com/04042009/sabway/
When its get hard i drop Olias and use Ogden
http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/7440...04052009_1.jpg
and my Necro have this + the sabway
http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/2131...04042009_1.jpg
I know i have to change a lot but i don't know what
Need help to improuve this build
arny
TheodenKing
Ok, so you are using sabway. Sabway is good. but you may find discordway is better. I have used both quite a lot. I prefer discordway unless the foes use heavy hex/condition removal. You can find discordway on pvxwiki.
Covah
urrrssssaaaannnnnnnnnn
You don't really need two heroes running the same build. Usually the heroes will attack the same target you are and since they have the same skills they will just replace the others. Like TheodenKing said you might want to try discord way. You are a warrior and will be taking targets down one at a time. With discord way they will spike the target fast.
/lolursan
You don't really need two heroes running the same build. Usually the heroes will attack the same target you are and since they have the same skills they will just replace the others. Like TheodenKing said you might want to try discord way. You are a warrior and will be taking targets down one at a time. With discord way they will spike the target fast.
/lolursan
arny
Tnx all , its ok to use ursan on my W ? i got rank 10. and what do u think about my W build.
ac1inferno
Why use Discordway with a Warrior when it's more caster oriented? Stick with Sabway since you're physical and it synergizes with it much better. If you really are using two SS Necroes, switch one of them for the SoLS Necro Healer.
arny
Tnx man i will keep sabway , but what build can i use for my W ? i have asura , derv , norn and vaq all rang 10.
arny
Can i keep ursan on my Warrior with the sabway or is no use ?
ac1inferno
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Originally Posted by Cherng Butter
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Can i keep ursan on my Warrior with the sabway or is no use ?
I guess you can, but outside of a farm or full ursan team, I don't know if it works very well. For other Warrior builds, any of the Warrior builds in the following link would work:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Category:G...general_builds
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Category:G...general_builds
Cherng Butter
Sabway is still inferior to Discordway anyway though. The two team builds are both sturdy, but Discordway is faster at taking enemies down. The AoE of the scythe is a bonus, not an aspect that you should build a teambuild around. It's not like it goes to waste when you hit multiple targets, it just softens them up before they're discord spiked. The scythe has huge spike capability as well. And you could bring splinter anyway if you wanted.
I'll bite that Discordway is better suited for an AP caster of some sort, but it doesn't mean that a warrior is inferior in that context if it can fire off a no-cast-time hex every 5 seconds, and with Withering Aura on, fulfill the condition requirement too (if the necros haven't already w/ spells).
I'll bite that Discordway is better suited for an AP caster of some sort, but it doesn't mean that a warrior is inferior in that context if it can fire off a no-cast-time hex every 5 seconds, and with Withering Aura on, fulfill the condition requirement too (if the necros haven't already w/ spells).
arny
After i use discord i got back to sab 
using this :
[build;OAhiYwh8gtzYSzJ3wccWVTuA]
[build;OANDUslfSLVVBoBLCKg1DBEVVA]
[build;OAhjYgHsoO5B7QZwSs7wYV1kLA]
[build;OQUTMyITTqvYXEW0wIu5varYwCA]
My war need changes
using this :[build;OAhiYwh8gtzYSzJ3wccWVTuA]
[build;OANDUslfSLVVBoBLCKg1DBEVVA]
[build;OAhjYgHsoO5B7QZwSs7wYV1kLA]
[build;OQUTMyITTqvYXEW0wIu5varYwCA]
My war need changes
Paul Dawg
You're going to have to explain that, because your own war sticky says this:
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In general, the best ones are the elemental hilt/hafts, for avoiding physical damage resistances and synergy with Conjure Flame and similar skills, Zealous, for high energy users, and Vampiric/Sundering for its outstanding damage.
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-Sundering is useless on swords
(snip)
Reading the War sticky is a good idea.
(snip)
Reading the War sticky is a good idea.
Picuso
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Originally Posted by arny
My war need changes
Drop [Endure Pain], [Signet Of Stamina], [Ether Signet], [Summon Mursaat] and [Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support].
And read this, it will help you: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10326347
Drop [Endure Pain], [Signet Of Stamina], [Ether Signet], [Summon Mursaat] and [Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support].And read this, it will help you: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10326347
Paul Dawg
OK, I see that you've made the change in the sticky, but I kinda DON'T see what max damage has to do with the calculation. All that matters for calculating the benefit of armor penetration is AVERAGE damage per second (discounting bonuses etc.). In fact, sundering should aid a sword slightly more than an axe because the average damager is greater (18.5 vs. 17). You don't get much mileage out of sundering mod on your axe when you hit for 6 damage.
The only time the max damage comes into play is for critical hits, where scythes really shine (not even considering their multiple attacks).
Just for the record: I personally think vampiric is better than sundering in virtually every situation.
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
The only time the max damage comes into play is for critical hits, where scythes really shine (not even considering their multiple attacks).
Just for the record: I personally think vampiric is better than sundering in virtually every situation.
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Hmmm, I know I noted that once but it must have been lost that time Guru got hacked and I had to reupload from an outdated Word file. Oh well, fixed now.
Anyway, Sundering provides good damage on weapons with high maximum damages, i.e, not swords or daggers.
Anyway, Sundering provides good damage on weapons with high maximum damages, i.e, not swords or daggers.
Daesu
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
@OP, Discord > Sabway imo, even though people say it sucks for melee players. Heres what to do:
Correct, discordway doesn't suck for melee, just that the pvx version of discordway sucks for melee. They confirmed it themselves at the bottom saying it is more for casters.
Dont follow the pvx discordway and use AP (lol) on your warrior. There are much better elites for a warrior.
Dont follow the pvx discordway and use AP (lol) on your warrior. There are much better elites for a warrior.
Paul Dawg
Well, all I can say is that if you haven't tested it yourself, you should be wary of making the claim in your sticky.
If people say things that fly in the face of mathematics, they're still wrong--even if they're "good wars."
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
If people say things that fly in the face of mathematics, they're still wrong--even if they're "good wars."
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Tbh I actually haven't done any testing myself, I'm going by other peoples results. This is people I trust, i.e, good Wars from Guru. If I had a sundering sword I'd test it myself, but I cbf.
arny
Ok i think im done what do u all think ?
My War :
OQASEZJTvl2kgPKF7g8V/VCA
and hero's:
OAhiYwh8gtzYSzJ3wccWVTuA
OANDUslfSLVVBoBLCKg1DBEVVA
OAhjYgHsoO5B7QZwSs7wYV1kLA
My necro:
OAdScYPTLQ2kvlylsB7BTQCA
and hero's:
OAhjUsGWIPxsMm0cyNMHnV1kLA
OANDUslfOxsqAeAN86CI1jqK
OAhkUwG4hGKTMDRMGsDfidXVN5C
Its ok ? tnx all
what do u all think ?My War :
OQASEZJTvl2kgPKF7g8V/VCA
and hero's:
OAhiYwh8gtzYSzJ3wccWVTuA
OANDUslfSLVVBoBLCKg1DBEVVA
OAhjYgHsoO5B7QZwSs7wYV1kLA
My necro:
OAdScYPTLQ2kvlylsB7BTQCA
and hero's:
OAhjUsGWIPxsMm0cyNMHnV1kLA
OANDUslfOxsqAeAN86CI1jqK
OAhkUwG4hGKTMDRMGsDfidXVN5C
Its ok ? tnx all
ac1inferno
Leave flame wars to PM.
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Originally Posted by arny
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Ok i think im done what do u all think ?
My War :
[build;OQASEZJTvl2kgPKF7g8V/VCA]
and hero's:
[build;OAhiYwh8gtzYSzJ3wccWVTuA]
[build;OANDUslfSLVVBoBLCKg1DBEVVA]
[build;OAhjYgHsoO5B7QZwSs7wYV1kLA]
My necro:
[build;OAdScYPTLQ2kvlylsB7BTQCA]
and hero's:
[build;OAhjUsGWIPxsMm0cyNMHnV1kLA]
[build;OANDUslfOxsqAeAN86CI1jqK]
[build;OAhkUwG4hGKTMDRMGsDfidXVN5C]
Its ok ? tnx all Helps if you put it into build templates so that we can see the skills instead of just text strings. But yeah, looks good.
what do u all think ?My War :
[build;OQASEZJTvl2kgPKF7g8V/VCA]
and hero's:
[build;OAhiYwh8gtzYSzJ3wccWVTuA]
[build;OANDUslfSLVVBoBLCKg1DBEVVA]
[build;OAhjYgHsoO5B7QZwSs7wYV1kLA]
My necro:
[build;OAdScYPTLQ2kvlylsB7BTQCA]
and hero's:
[build;OAhjUsGWIPxsMm0cyNMHnV1kLA]
[build;OANDUslfOxsqAeAN86CI1jqK]
[build;OAhkUwG4hGKTMDRMGsDfidXVN5C]
Its ok ? tnx all Helps if you put it into build templates so that we can see the skills instead of just text strings. But yeah, looks good.
arny
Tnx man i didn't know .
Marty Silverblade
I wouldn't go with an AoE axe War though, if theres no large grouped mobs you're going to produce crap damage. DSlash + SY would be preferred.
@Daesu/Igor/whoever else - leave the Discord/Sabway crap out of this thread.
@Daesu/Igor/whoever else - leave the Discord/Sabway crap out of this thread.
arny
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Heres some tips about your War:
-Sundering is useless on swords
--5/20% mods suck. Wat u thing i can use with Godmode bar ?
-Sundering is useless on swords
--5/20% mods suck. Wat u thing i can use with Godmode bar ?
Mr Emu
on the necro AP+Ebon sin+mark of pain is pretty good nuking