Idea to Fix Economy

Fanita

Fanita

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

W/P

As we all know, the Guild Wars economy has been and is in shambles, and as time goes on it will only get worse. I think I've come up with quite an ingenious solution to this problem. It's the only way.

Basically everything needs to start over. I think ANet should delete every gold piece, every ecto, every everlasting tonic, every expensive dye, every Z Key, every miniature, all gold items, all green items, all weapon mods, all sets of prestige armor including Obsidian armor, as well as anything else that is used as any sort of currency or has a value of over 10k.

Also, all skills unlocked, including elites, should be ununlocked. So that people can't just start farming the hell out of every item right away. And to make sure they don't just rebuild their builds, I think every skill should be dramatically nerfed. Basically so that all new strategies and techniques and everything would have to be relearned.

Now, by delete I don't mean remove the item from the game, I mean just delete all the ones in existence.

Now yes this seems harsh, and thousands of people would be losing gold and items that they have spent hundreds and even thousands and even tens of thousands of hours getting. Even I would be losing a great deal of gold, ectos, and items, but I am willing to sacrifice. I think this is a necessary solution to the Guild Wars economy problems. But it would have to target EVERYONE. No account could go untouched, otherwise it would offset the balance.

Essentially we could peacefully go back to "the good old days", and really enjoy this game the way it was meant to be enjoyed before Guild Wars 2 comes out. If I missed anything that should be deleted or changed in order to fully get the desired effect of this, please do mention them.

This is not a rant or anything like that. I am not jealous of people that have more money than I, I just want to have the old Guild Wars back. The Guild Wars all us old players knew and loved.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

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There is NOTHING wrong with the GW economy, only with those who try and live GW.

Channel_V93

Channel_V93

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Stop Stealing [agro]

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Enjoy having 3 people to play with, 99% of the people who still play this game will quit, this will be the last nail in the coffin if this ever happens.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

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Personally I think your idea ranks as one of the worst yet.

Care to explain exactly what you felt was good about the "good old days" ? What was exactly was it that you , an "old player" felt was so much better back then ?

(i have been playing since day 1 - just pointing that out before the standard "you don't remember what it was....blahblah" post from someone at somepoint )

Fanita

Fanita

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

W/P

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Originally Posted by Aldric View Post
Personally I think your idea ranks as one of the worst yet.

Care to explain exactly what you felt was good about the "good old days" ? What was exactly was it that you , an "old player" felt was so much better back then ?

(i have been playing since day 1 - just pointing that out before the standard "you don't remember what it was....blahblah" post from someone at somepoint )
I don't know why you would ask that if you've been playing since day 1, it seems pretty obvious.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Sure as long as I can have my 2,400 hours playtime back, and if 'playing' was more profitable than farming. Oh wait...

AnClar

AnClar

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Texas USA

Sanitas In Absentia [SiA]

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People who've been playing since beta worked for a fair amount of that stuff. It took me over a year of farming to be able to afford my 1st set of Obsidian armor. I (and a lot of other peeps) would be mightily pissed if Anet suddenly wiped out all that work. Besides GW1 is way late in its lifecycle. We'll get a new clean start in GW2.

Faure

Faure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

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Originally Posted by Xsiriss View Post
Sure as long as I can have my 2,400 hours playtime back, and if 'playing' was more profitable than farming. Oh wait...
I play gw only for the experience of playing and team spirit with people I know, not for profit or whatever virtual financial crap....

Cartello

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

London, UK

W/

This might just be the worst idea I've read in years.

Let's try it with the real economy.
Everybody can be homeless, have no clothes, food, water or money!

Yeah, that'll work!

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

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Originally Posted by Fanita View Post
I don't know why you would ask that if you've been playing since day 1, it seems pretty obvious.
Good way of avoiding the question.

As you your point, No it is not obvious to me

Care to explain it to me why everything being cheaper to buy now and Gold being much easier to obtain now means that I am worse off than I was in the good old days ?

lewis91

lewis91

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Wales

Order of the Azurelight[OA]

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Wow, you should be killed, now i don't exactly have a fortune, but i like what ive amassed over the year ive been playing. SO STAY AWAY FROM MY STUFFS.

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here is NOTHING wrong with the GW economy, only with those who try and live GW.

Fanita

Fanita

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

W/P

Can we try some constructive criticism instead of just flaming? We're all civilized people here I assume, no need for acting like ravaging beasts.

Cartello

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

London, UK

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Basically your idea is like, burning down a building because you've got a broken window. (Especially if that window isn't even broken at all..)

Hanging Man

Hanging Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Deep in the Shire

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GW1 is way late in its lifecycle. We'll get a new clean start in GW2.

QFT.

Gw1 is a little old to start fixing the problem. best thing is to let it rid out until Gw2 comes along and we all get clean slates. Hopefully by then Gw1 will have stabilized.

If not, we will occupy our time with relentless farming in Gw2

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Originally Posted by Fanita View Post
Can we try some constructive criticism instead of just flaming? We're all civilized people here I assume, no need for acting like ravaging beasts.
We would be constructive. If there was any logic or brain power behind this proposal.

Ya know I heard thinking things through saves you from being flamed..

cognophile

cognophile

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

USA

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Originally Posted by Fanita View Post
I think ANet should delete every gold piece, every ecto, every everlasting tonic, every expensive dye, every Z Key, every miniature, all gold items, all green items, all weapon mods, all sets of prestige armor including Obsidian armor, as well as anything else that is used as any sort of currency or has a value of over 10k.

Also, all skills unlocked, including elites, should be ununlocked. So that people can't just start farming the hell out of every item right away. And to make sure they don't just rebuild their builds, I think every skill should be dramatically nerfed. Basically so that all new strategies and techniques and everything would have to be relearned.
Is this a serious proposal? Exactly what problem would this solve?

Punish people who have already achieved their in-game goals? From multiple angles (customer relations, future business, game economy) I'd say that's an exceptionally bad idea.

ddark624

ddark624

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

London, England

The High Chronicles[THCS]

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omg this is actually the best plan in the worrrrllllllldddd delete years of peoples work i have a better way though... maybe if they delete u from teh game thats another person who cant collect shards ectos and the high end stuff therefore stopping the price being lowered just taht lil bit more

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

You want to delete everything i spent short of 7k hours working for?

Get the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO out.

Sierraa

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Join Date: May 2006

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lolololololol
That.

Also if you want constructive criticism try not making a completely retarded idea to fix the economy :P We all love the stuff we've worked for, and having it taken away is punishment for playing almost.

Fanita

Fanita

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

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Like I said, I know people will lose a lot, but it's a necessary loss. I will lose a lot too. No, I'm not the richest person in the game, but I do have well over 2 million including all my armor, ectos, gold, weapons, and such. So I won't be going without a loss.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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It's slow and scattered.

All GW 'ecomoney' needs is a way to center it in a single IN-GAME spot. So EVERY single player goes to the same place, and regardless of langauge, region, district and outpost they are in, they get the stuff sold.

That's all that is needed, and currently only happens with Traders.


But deleting? That's simply... well, the only fitting word to describe it will likely get censored so I won't write it, but you get the drill.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fanita View Post
Can we try some constructive criticism instead of just flaming? We're all civilized people here I assume, no need for acting like ravaging beasts.
Tried it , you avoided the questions both times i tried asking.

Discussing a point with someone is an absolute waste of time if they wont even state their point.

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

HA HA HA!! Nice joke! Wait, your joking right?

If your not, your basically punishing everyone for playing. GG

wire dawg

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

happy guild moor [hgm]

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can i have my 30 secs back of reading ya dumb post instead pls k thx gay idea

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

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u would essentially make half the people playing this game quit, effectively killing what little life the game has left. alternative measures should be looked into and extensively tested before such a brash and rediculous wipe occurs. besides, even after the wipe, the means to retern back to our current situation will exist. it will only take a while, but the same thing will happen. this will only provide people the opportunity to race against each other to be the 1st ones to make it big and rich. nty.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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No. Just no.

You're not going to get the good old days back. You're just gonna kill what remains of the player-base. I mean really, who would want to play a mmo, any mmo where the powers that be can just randomly rollback the servers to Day 1.

ddark624

ddark624

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

London, England

The High Chronicles[THCS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fanita View Post
Like I said, I know people will lose a lot, but it's a necessary loss. I will lose a lot too. No, I'm not the richest person in the game, but I do have well over 2 million including all my armor, ectos, gold, weapons, and such. So I won't be going without a loss.
This makes me LOL 2... i will be losing nearly 2mill... so ur tellling me u wanna do it all again? here is an easy option... delete ur chars and start again coz we dont want 2.

Next time you make a thread think before you post and its not the Guidwars ecconomy that is messed up every gold is worth up to 400 gold... each ecto and shard is 100 gold... players make the prices therefore the prices arnt gunna change rapidly because the builds will still work
A* NUUUB

Lawliet Kira

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

E/Me

Just wondering, did you honestly thing you weren't going get made fun of and flamed because of this idea that you seem fit? And you forgot to add that they should delete all of your titles!

blackamethyst

blackamethyst

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

[ale]

...What?

I really can't believe this is a serious suggestion. People only post stuff like this to see other people QQ and go berserk.

Honestly, have you any idea how many hours people have invested into this game? Especially people like me who've been playing almost four years already, and how much effort has been put into farming gold for the rare items and armors that you want to have deleted? Not to mention the amount of money spent on the games themselves. Each campaign being nearabout $50 upon release, ~$65-ish for collectors, the money spent in the online-store for Bonus Mission Packs, extra slots, skill unlocks, etc. Some people also have two and three and four accounts. All of that time, effort, and money wasted.

So... just no. My brain hurts even thinking about it.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Regardless of whether this fixes the economy or not, do you really think screwing people over (5000+ hours) is a good idea? I know I'd quit for sure.

Highlander Of Alba

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Real Rogue Clan

Rt/Mo

Well the way I see it is...

I have played this game since inception .never once did i need to borrrow or farm to get my guys kitted out..the way I like them....

Thats the point you are assuming veryone feels the same as you ...The OP

I surely dont I am still enjoying playing as it is now as it was in the begining...so where is the hurt...


Yes you are entitled to your opinion by all means but remember thats only your opinion not the masses who play out there and dont even frequent the forums

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fanita View Post
ANet should delete... anything... that is used as any sort of currency or has a value of over 10k.

All skills... should be ununlocked.

Every skill should be dramatically nerfed.
Is this a troll? Tell me this is a troll. If it's not a troll, it's a darn good laugh.

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

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WHEW!!!

A tip...DON'T go into biz for yourself or run for public office.

Your idea would kill GW and insure GW2 would collect dust on the shelves.
Why? Because no one in thier right mind would buy a game that at any moment might throw
all the in-game hours in the garbage

No one would put up with a gameing company trashing years of work.

GEEEEZ!! This is the most poorly thought out 'idea' I have ever seen.

UnChosen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

/signed to beta test the OP's idea on the OP only.

Vindalan Mathios

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/E

Wow.

That is the worst idea I've ever heard.

That won't stabilize the economy, it will make everyone quit the game.

Also, the in-game "economy" is fine.

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

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Too...much...trolling...

Closed.