So a couple of guildies and I are laboring through DoA (I know, it's late to be starting DoA, but they just got a bug about it, and I've never cared...) , and we have come upon a roadblock:
We're running the 3-player/5 hero build (pretty much offa wiki, with some personal changes that we like... I'm running the derv as a ranger, one guy's carrying LB gaze instead of signet, and some other tweaks.)
We've done City and Veil without much trouble. But the 3rd room in Foundry has us stumped: we're trying to pull titans back to the entry door to deal with one group at a time, but for some reason, we keep getting extra groups mid-fight. It even appeared one time that a mob came and jumped us, without our aggro bubbles touching it.
So...any suggestions, either for the heroes or for the room itself? We're a small guild that doesn't have a lot of active members, so "get more guildies" is kinda out.
We're not using consumables...would those make a difference?
thanks in advance.
Behind the curve in DoA
englitdaudelin
riceangel
cons help a lot
Patrols are always are trouble when pulling anywhere. Learn the patrols plan your attack so that you can wipe out your target group before they arrive, with cons this helps a lot
Patrols are always are trouble when pulling anywhere. Learn the patrols plan your attack so that you can wipe out your target group before they arrive, with cons this helps a lot
Ben-A-BoO
I know what you are talking about ... probably one of the few spots where teams get the most party wipes ... Generally stick to the wall and don't stand to close to each other ... there are several spots that are relatively aggro free ... pull a mob back should do the trick and yes cons help a lot ... in HM they are a must ... I don't have a map here yet but I make sure to edit the post as soon as I got a decent guilde/ map for ya.
toocooltang
The third room in foundry can be quite difficult but the key is to get a good pull to the pillars from the tank then kill quickly. It sounds like and oxymoron but you will eventually aggro the othe groups in the room during the fight. I thought I had a screen shot somewhere of where to tank, if I find it i will post it
Like everyone said cons would help greatly for the numerous reasons.
If you still having problems try to change up your build for more damage, I would suggest pain of disenchantment instead of SS for more dmg vs titans. EoE is a good option if you dont have it already. The wiki build has two n/rt healers with only 1 copy of splinter, I've also run with 2 Rits with OoS (two splinters) and never had a probably with energy. With Rits you can boost the splinter damage up to 17 w/ cons and each splinter will do 70dmg with LB bonus. For even more damage you can bring a VOR mesmer packin some interrupts and he could also bring an aegis to add to the human monks copy.
You mentioned that you were running your dervish as a ranger, I really don't understand why can you explain more?
Like everyone said cons would help greatly for the numerous reasons.
If you still having problems try to change up your build for more damage, I would suggest pain of disenchantment instead of SS for more dmg vs titans. EoE is a good option if you dont have it already. The wiki build has two n/rt healers with only 1 copy of splinter, I've also run with 2 Rits with OoS (two splinters) and never had a probably with energy. With Rits you can boost the splinter damage up to 17 w/ cons and each splinter will do 70dmg with LB bonus. For even more damage you can bring a VOR mesmer packin some interrupts and he could also bring an aegis to add to the human monks copy.
You mentioned that you were running your dervish as a ranger, I really don't understand why can you explain more?
Koning
The best spot to fight in the 3rd room is probably the place where you end up if you hug the entire right wall (when you enter from the 2nd room). Let all but 1 party member stand in that corner and when everyone stands there the last party member can enter the room so the enemies will spawn. You can than (carefully) pull groups of titans to that spot.
toocooltang
Ah ok I misread what you typed. I thought it was using a derv as a ranger with a bow. If you are using a ranger try using daggers for the, golden fox strike, wild strike, dblossom and moebius. That dagger chain should allow you spike down single targets fast. If you are going to do that use necro skills like putrid bile, rising bile and icy veins because they cause dmg when something dies. Add dwarven stability and lightning reflexs and you should a 33% IAS and 75% block vs physicals almost all the time.
I also looked at the wiki build and noticed spirit bond was there. I would switch that for PS to allow you to pull better, be careful where you use it because there is enchant removal.
I also looked at the wiki build and noticed spirit bond was there. I would switch that for PS to allow you to pull better, be careful where you use it because there is enchant removal.
Snograt
Quote:
Originally Posted by englitdaudelin
1. expertise makes scythe attacks cheap
Um, no?
Apart from that, that's exactly the same set of reasons why I did DoA with my Ranger
Apart from that, that's exactly the same set of reasons why I did DoA with my Ranger
zelgadissan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt
1. expertise makes scythe attacks cheap
Um, no?
Expertise lowers the energy cost of attack skills, including scythe skills. 13+ Expertise = 2e Wounding Strike, Mystic, Eremite's, etc. Add in a zealous and it's essentially free, and if you happen to hit three people you actually gain energy.
Anyway, follow Koning's advice; I've never been in DoA with less than 4 heroes (usually 5) and that's always the way we've gone through that room.
Anyway, follow Koning's advice; I've never been in DoA with less than 4 heroes (usually 5) and that's always the way we've gone through that room.
Snograt
My god - all these years and I was unaware of that fact. I knew about touch skills, but the fact that Expertise affects all attack skills had totally passed me by.
Middle age - just say no
Middle age - just say no
toocooltang
Lots of good advice here.
There are multiple places you can stand in the third room. I like the door so incase we do get a near wipe we can have a safe place to run and try and rez up. My suggestion would start your runs in foundry and couple times and try different spots. If you fail dont worry about it, it's just a game. My guild runs heroway alot and we still fail every now and then.
P.S. snograt I didn't know that for along time either.
There are multiple places you can stand in the third room. I like the door so incase we do get a near wipe we can have a safe place to run and try and rez up. My suggestion would start your runs in foundry and couple times and try different spots. If you fail dont worry about it, it's just a game. My guild runs heroway alot and we still fail every now and then.
P.S. snograt I didn't know that for along time either.
Anime Divine
well just before going into third room stay on the right side and walk to the end
and bunch up in corner. assuming your using a imbagon the imba should just stay close on the left side and not bunched up with other group.
for me that is my only safe spot. i wil try to get a screenie for it today
i then always lure the group misery titans first then the anquish. then the group rage finnally the dryders
important to kill misery>rage>dementia spawns fast.
got the screens!!
and bunch up in corner. assuming your using a imbagon the imba should just stay close on the left side and not bunched up with other group.
for me that is my only safe spot. i wil try to get a screenie for it today
i then always lure the group misery titans first then the anquish. then the group rage finnally the dryders
important to kill misery>rage>dementia spawns fast.
got the screens!!
englitdaudelin
Thanks a ton, y'all. We might be giving this a try tonight (lots of schedule conflicts the past two weeks...)