Banned while chest running

Lyssa Mac

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

This is a potential warning to others.

My account was terminated permanent last night, supposedly for using a third party programme. I have never used a third party programme. I was running chests in Fronis Irontoe's Lair. (Quite a lot of chests *holds up hand and admits to being an addict). Apparently it was witnessed by a games moderator.

I am trying to work with support to resolve this. I only include this message as a warning to any others chest running in this area (I was in Eng 1 district).

Apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

never run chest never will, tis boring, not even playing GW anymore, just doing xth. but thanks for the heads up

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Just because you were banned WHILE chest running doesn't mean you were banned FOR chest running.

I highly doubt you were banned for chest running and I HIGHLY doubt a mod was watching you run chests.

Work with support. If you really weren't using third-party programs, then they can figure that out and unban you.

a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/R

you probably were using third party programms

Konker2020

Konker2020

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Exiled Forcez [Ex]

I got perma-banned on an acc't a while back for lvling too quickly...

Had to submit what turned out to be an essay to support about my play style and how I got to lvl 20 in 4 hours...

EDIT: Probably should have added, I got it back...

subarucar

subarucar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

New Zealand

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Konker2020 View Post
I got perma-banned on an acc't a while back for lvling too quickly...

Had to submit what turned out to be an essay to support about my play style and how I got to lvl 20 in 4 hours...

EDIT: Probably should have added, I got it back...
I dont understand why this would be bannable, or why A-net/NCsoft would think that people would use 3rd party programs to do it.

are you sure you were banned for chest running? rather than banned for something else, but recieved the ban while chest running?

Kelson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

I'll vouch for Mac, she always seemed a very upstanding player when I ran into her.
She's also been buying lockpicks in bulk for a while now (check posts).
You can get banned any time a mod decides you are exhibiting bot like behavior, but they make mistakes as well (especially when you rezone repeatedly such as when chest running).

Archress Shayleigh

Archress Shayleigh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2009

Guild Hall

R/

You probably LOOKED like a bot or something. Did you do the exact same action every time? if it was pretty much the same then IF a mod was watching you s/he would've thought you are a bot.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Good thing they weren't watching me run chests outside Boreal Station then.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Maybe support was afraid of your mental health for behaving like a bot... :>

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

I ran 6,500 chests in Fronis from December '08 - February '09 to max TH, Lucky, And Unlucky. I was in and out of that zone for 4-5 hours a day practically. There's no way you got banned for the actual chest running. I'm sure I (and lots of others too) would've been banned for that same reason. Most likely somebody thought you were botting since you can find Fronis chests in about 1-2 min (one of the best spots for it) and go into and out of that zone rapidly because of it. Anet needs to take this into account when running their bot checkups there. About two years ago I farmed my Legendary Survivor title by killing that skeletal ranger mob outside Bergen Hot Springs over and over again and my account got banned (overturned in a day due to error) due to "bot-like activities". You can look like a bot and act like a bot, not be a bot, but still sometimes (accidentally) get caught up in bot sweeps.

Explain your situation clearly and I'm sure you'll get your account back. Over the time I chest ran at Fronis, I didn't even once feel like I was chest running alongside bots (and there were a lot of people farming chests/xp for survivor/etc in that span). I wouldn't doubt people are using macros or something to spam their "get up" key when they fall (especially those going for Leg. Survivor), but I doubt outright bots. I steer clear of bots, macros, etc, (not worth it considering all the time I've put into my account over the past ~4 years) and when chest running in Fronis you shouldn't even need to use your get-up key - at all - most of the time.

Just putting a good word in for you, because even though I do not know you, I am sure if you were going to bot, there are way better places to do it than Fronis.

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

There are GMs actually playing this game? That's news to me.

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

Sure there are mods.

nopsem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Netherlands

Pugnans In Tenebris

W/

when i first read this i though nah this cant be true, there must be some other explanation but seeing others replies it really seems you can be banned for looking like a bot which is really rediculous. they can't do stuf like that because there totally isn't proof, in my opinion anet should be fined for this or even better ban them from their game and auction it so a company with more integrity can save this game.
Anet themselves have put these title things in the game with which you have to behave like a bot if you want to get to the max on some of them, so they even cause their own problem of being scared that there will be too much loot in the game. this and other stuff made me see since a long time that they really are fools

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

When running chests, just say something random once in a while like: yeah baby! great loot!, or, Hey I'm not a bot FYI! Just running chests here! and do some emotes.
chat in guild chat while running chests perhaps.

and wow, 6.500 chests ran? omg...

Massive Impulsa

Massive Impulsa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

In Viking land! (Norwaii)

Beyond the Gates of Infinity [sKy]

R/Mo

Atleast they "try" to ban bots

Tbh, id rather have 100 Bots banned (who ruins the economy bla bla) and 1 innoncent. Then he can send support-ticket w/e and get it back

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

Quote:
Apparently it was witnessed by a games moderator
So thats what they do with their time? Geeks

God forbid they try to come up with ideas to make the title grind more fun, but no, lets bot hunt and ban the humans while the bots roam free

Anet should have freindly fire damage turned off in their options menu I guess

Raccoon

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

Wow, I'm working on legendary survivor with my sin in fronis irontoes lair. Any GM's wanna come in and give an explanation?

cosmic massacre

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

GMT

aOa

R/

i did the port sledge run about 3000(9000+chests) times to max treasure.Never had prob's.However not a single run would have been 'exactly' the same as the one before or after it.It's a good test of your gaming willpower

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

just bad luck that someone thought u looked like a bot. although they should have pmed u first to see if u gave a response >_<

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

GWs ban system is mostly automated (they have like 8 guys working on the live team they cannot afford to do it themselves) so they will get people incorrectly often. Send in a support ticket and 9 times out of ten they will return your account.

tcratty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

6 feet under

forever angels

E/

wow 6,500-9,000 chest opened thats alot of broken lockpicks not even to much the money spent on them

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Konker2020 View Post
I got perma-banned on an acc't a while back for lvling too quickly...

Had to submit what turned out to be an essay to support about my play style and how I got to lvl 20 in 4 hours...

EDIT: Probably should have added, I got it back...



That is easy. You can do that in factions so darn easy. You can get to level 10-12 and get to kc doing the bare minimum. Then buy 2-3 scrolls and punchout in gwen in under 4 hours. I just did it on my mesmer.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Dont be surprised at anything.
I still find the ultimate ROFFLEZ was when a couple of guys accidentally duped some item and reported to ANET, in order to get it fixed.Got them banned tho. Thats some serious brainpower

Its getting more ridiculous every single day


Quote:
Originally Posted by Songbringer View Post
That is easy. You can do that in factions so darn easy. You can get to level 10-12 and get to kc doing the bare minimum. Then buy 2-3 scrolls and punchout in gwen in under 4 hours. I just did it on my mesmer.
a bit less than 3 hours for my assassin .

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

ArenaNet support is that way ---->
There is nothing we can do for you.

belladonna shylock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Me/

maybe someone reported you for botting...and they actually looked into it because you weren't in FA

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyssa Mac View Post
This is a potential warning to others.

My account was terminated permanent last night, supposedly for using a third party programme. I have never used a third party programme. I was running chests in Fronis Irontoe's Lair. (Quite a lot of chests *holds up hand and admits to being an addict). Apparently it was witnessed by a games moderator.

I am trying to work with support to resolve this. I only include this message as a warning to any others chest running in this area (I was in Eng 1 district).

Apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place.
Hope you get your account back!

Seems a bit shortsighted of a mod to think you were botting doing something that is a guarenteed way of losing money!

It's more likely that you triggered some automated system that looks for bot like behaviour, and as that area only has a very limited range of spawns, then you would be repeating the same actions time after time.

I did about a few hundred Fronis chests, but got too bored of it to keep it up for long myself.

Good luck!

Puddin Cheeks

Puddin Cheeks

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

On Welfare

Jelly of the Month [Club]

Quote:
Originally Posted by belladonna shylock View Post
maybe someone reported you for botting...and they actually looked into it because you weren't in FA
I see what you did there. That is the truth, Bots in FA must have asylum or something.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

wow i gotta be careful, i've ran 450 chests in one day before in doomlore...

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massive Impulsa View Post
At least they "try" to ban bots

Tbh, id rather have 10 Bots banned (who ruins the economy) and 1 innocent. Then he can send support-ticket w/e and get it back
Fixed, send a e-mail to arena-net telling them they messed up. Poof account back.

There is nothing we can do but give suggestions.

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

E/

I ran about 500-700 chests a week in irontoes lair to max my title, I didn't get banned for it. Were you doing something else? Using a drunk bot? Anything?

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

I can confirm that they ban accounts without any proof, only that yout account was playing too long in one area over a period of time.
I know this as a fact. I was farming on amatz basin with just h/h on a separate account on another computer, while I did ABs etc on my main. all it involved doing was entering the mission and flagging the heros once every 15 minutes. For this, they banned the account for 3rd party program use - even though if they checked, they could see I was at the main computer (which is next to the other) during all the time doing ABs/mision etc.
So just because anet ban you, do not let them get away with it - I know I am not and you may hear about it in the near future....

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer View Post
You can look like a bot and act like a bot, not be a bot, but still sometimes (accidentally) get caught up in bot sweeps.
Sounds to me like the typical sh!tty code for an email spam filter, which in the best cases is about 97% accurate.

Should be a flag set, which then requires actual *inspection*. I highly doubt there's inspection, tho.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney View Post
Should be a flag set, which then requires actual *inspection*. I highly doubt there's inspection, tho.
Do you realize how many people are needed to check on the hundreds of thousands of possible flags each day???? It can never ever work like that..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
There is nothing we can do but give suggestions.
He didnt even ask for anything, just informed the rest of us. You people should really read posts

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

.....see this is why i just leech in Jade quarry whenever im at college.



GM's messing up the game like this

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

.....see this is why i just leech in Jade quarry whenever im at college.



GM's messing up the game like this

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fb2000 View Post
I still find the ultimate ROFFLEZ was when a couple of guys accidentally duped some item and reported to ANET, in order to get it fixed.Got them banned tho. Thats some serious brainpower

Its getting more ridiculous every single day
That is not what happened. Two forum members tested the method to determine how the duping was done(it wasn't accidental), filed a report with ANet with their findings, then deleted the duped items(red dye, I believe). ANet used the information they provided to automatically scan and block users using the exploit, including the two who reported it. They then manually unblocked those two.

We only have the OP's side of this story, and details are vague at best. Since the OP has already contacted support, there's nothing much to see here.

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
That is not what happened. Two forum members tested the method to determine how the duping was done(it wasn't accidental), filed a report with ANet with their findings, then deleted the duped items(red dye, I believe). ANet used the information they provided to automatically scan and block users using the exploit, including the two who reported it. They then manually unblocked those two.

We only have the OP's side of this story, and details are vague at best. Since the OP has already contacted support, there's nothing much to see here.
Also the reporters didn't specify their character names when they reported, so Gaile had to get their names after the banning - otherwise they probably wouldn't have been banned at all.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

I do think they had their names on the screenies. I also believe it took Anet a long time to unban them. Defo didnt seem right at the time

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

Looking back through the threads, it appears they were likely banned for less than 6 hours. Certainly Enko was only banned for 3-4 hours, based on thread creation time to when he states his accounts were reinstated. Fenix was likely reinstated shortly after he sent his details through. And yes, Gaile states they didn't have their IGNs or anything (whether you believe her, up to you).

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...8&postcount=38
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...7&postcount=75