what do you think about this perma sf build?

siominos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

hi
plz critic this build. i am not sure if its works good.

A/E
Shadow arts: 12+4
Fire magic:9
Deadly arts:9

shadow form
deadly paradox
glyph of swiftness
fire storm
searing heat
fire attunement
dancing daggers
shadow refuge

Some attunement runes are needed plus +20% enchanted waepon.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

you have no energy management. you will run out of enough energy to maintain ur SF.

Lux Aeterna

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2009

RAH

Close Enough [XVII]

W/A

You really really won't be able to cast all those nukes and maintain shadow form.

Brawn Over Brains

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

England

X Devils Rejects X

W/Mo

I agree, even with Zealous Daggers of Enchanting you couldn't maintain.

siominos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

Thanks for some advice. I will try to manage the build. The only thing is that deadly paradox disables attack skills so its not good to use daggers.

_Nihilist_

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

Nor is it good to use high cost spells. If you burn all of your energy trying to pump out damage, you won't have enough to maintain SF and SF is going to drop; you're going to have ~50hp, and you're going to be face to face with a world of hurt.

Kinlo

Kinlo

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

East Indian Guild

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong View Post
you're going to be face to face with a world of hurt. Loved that sentence. xD

Anyway, besides energy management, the damage output won't be great either (nerfed).

~Kinlo

Dre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Belgium

Dutch Doom Brigade

W/

drop [Fire Storm] for [Teinai's Heat] and [Dancing Daggers] for [Glyph of Lesser Energy]
max out fire magic (3 points in deadly arts is more than enough, since you can activate [deadly paradox] right before you cast [Shadow Form])

Zzes Tyan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

Florida

[Play]

D/

its going to suck, even with energy management, the AoE's will cause scatter, and with a 30 second recharge on each, thats really only 90 damage per cast, (enemies scatter in 3 sec) so... 30x3=90, there are other less energy, lower recharge, skills that are much better than the 2 AoEs

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Honestly, I'd stop trying to use a fire nuker build altogether. People use [Sliver Armor] and [Radiation Field] because they don't cause scatter. Nuking a whole bunch of guys in HM at once will just lead to them running away from the nukes, and you'll do no real damage.

Unless of course you're farming in NM, in which case...well, why are you farming in NM?

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

No, it really doesn't. That's what I use on my perma sin raptor farmer, and the only time any enemy runs is if he gets down below 50% hp (most of the time, they get instagibbed before they get out of range of sliver, but occasionally it takes a bit of wanding to keep them attacking long enough to kill). When there are more than 3 of them clustered around a single target and they start taking damage, and don't have any way to heal themselves, they run. That's not what "scatter" is; that's a separate behavior that all melee mobs have, and all farms have to deal with.

"Scatter" from AoE will happen to all monsters in a mob, regardless of how many are attacking a single target, what health they're at, if they're melee or ranged. As long as the damage is coming from a DoT AoE, they'll run around like chickens with their heads cut off, nullifying the majority of the damage if you're trying to farm them all quickly. This is why perma farmers use Sliver Armor, and don't use fire spells.

siominos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

I have changed the build a little


[shadow form][deadly paradox][glyph of swiftness][signet of shadows][glyph of lesser energy][dancing daggers][shadow refuge] the last spot is empty. I need help filling the last spot.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

For what purposes do you use that build? It's obviously not for farming, since it's very slow at dealing with (multiple) foes.

siominos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

I dont now really. i just maked it for fun.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

Ah, now you're talking! If the build is fun, then it works!