Uwsc roj vale

i agree with byteme telling somoene to ping the wrong build just to get into a group will get u blacklisted from a lot of groups...and the build the guy put it works fine have had pug roj's use it and had no problems. also if u don't want to beat eotn may want to get your ss rank up and put in mind wrack and cop cause we have let pugs use that, and had no problem. i highly suggest u don't ping wrong build and go in with dfferent as the vale sin will know it right off the bat on how fast things are killed if u ping the build with eotn skills in it and u will get nothing but grief over it

Trolls, quit derailing the thread. What DarkGanni posted will work fine, but many pugs will still kick you for not having the required eotn skills because you'll be slowing down the group. Just be willing to spend a lot of time searching for groups.

first, the deception is a bad idea

second, yes you should beat the game and get the correct skills, because otherwise, you will not make it into many sc's and, if you do, you will probably be failing and having to pay for cons and then destroy your reputation which will result in joining in on even less runs.

they're not needed, but make it much much more fail proof, as [skill]Great Dwarf Weapon[/skill] is a great way to keep the sin alive while he's getting slapped by souls specially if you're title is decent, giving a great chance of causing knockdown on every hit, not too mention, by buffing the ally souls with this, you greatly increase your chances of keeping them alive, and if they die, you fail. and without [skill]By Ural's Hammer[/skill] your RoJ will nearly not be as effective and result in you having to cast RoJ 5-6 times, just to kill two aatxe when it can easily be done with 3 casts. Well having to waste time like that, will result in 20-25-30 minute vale clears, which, will definitely not land you a spot in the next run, and definitely make you have to pay for BU. So i would recommend, playing through eye, one more time, it's really not that hard, AND you don't even have to beat the whole game to get those skills, although beating the game and then turning in a book so your dwarf rank is high, would absolutely positively be a MUCH MUCH better idea, and you will absolutely earn a spot in speed clears without having to pay extra cash, or hear lots of grief or be the victim of kicks and personal attacks because you keep failing or take an extra extra long time to do your job in a SPEED clear.


if you're just stubborn and intent on not beating the game, i would suggest either smiter's boon, or mind bender, [skill]Mindbender[/skill] is the better option, as it halves your casting time and will definitely let you cast another RoJ off of echo before it runs out, and you're definitely going to need an extra heal, or else your vale sin, is toast. good luck.

Huh? How do you manage to kill the Attaxes in 3 RoJs?

I think the start of this video shows how to roj nuke the aatxe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQP2EHGVM1U