We need more room on the party search.
A normal chat message is close to four times the length of a party search message.
While this leaves it somewhat effective for trade, it still falls short for even that, and for other things that do require a bit more elaboration, it fails horribly.
Examples: Guild recruitment. It creates a huge spam in every district. Why? They can't fit it in the Party Search. Distinct size of text example: Cheat Enabled is recruiting int - yes, that is where it cuts off, 32 characters.
Not only is this hardly usable for recruiting, but it is also sub par for trading as well.
I logged into a district in Presearing, here is the first message I saw, and I believe this gives a good illusion to the problem at hand (aside from their atrocious spelling):
Trade message: wtb gifts 500g each, Choco bunnies 100g each, Hunney Jars 100g each (Party Search)
Party Search: wtb gifts 500g each, Choco bunn
The difference is this: Trade messages have a maximum length of 120 characters, while Party Search messages have a maximum length of only 32 characters -- a 3.75x difference.
Now, I won't pretend to know the technical limitations of this, but it's simply too short to be very useful at the moment. While the Party Search was a wonderful addition to our game, allowing trading and finding parties across districts, I believe this idea is possible to be improved upon and would greatly benefit all players.
More room in party search.
Empress Amarox
A H O Y T
/signed
It's so annoying when it takes me 30 minutes to buy an item that's been staring me in the face the whole time because half of the sale message has been cut off.
It's so annoying when it takes me 30 minutes to buy an item that's been staring me in the face the whole time because half of the sale message has been cut off.
duckboy
aaaah the usual phrase comes to mind for this... the concept and idea was awesome but fell over when it came to the crunch, or somethin along those lines lol
the idea of a cross district trade chat option was an awesome idea but for reasons unknown it isn't serving its purpose atm due to the fact mentioned.
so basically a 32 char limit = not fit for purpose...and that my friends is a no no
the idea of a cross district trade chat option was an awesome idea but for reasons unknown it isn't serving its purpose atm due to the fact mentioned.
so basically a 32 char limit = not fit for purpose...and that my friends is a no no
Tenebrae
Separating the WTB from WTS would be a great change ..... not even introducing some kinda "search" for keywords but if its limited now ... dont think theyre gonna change it.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Pleikki
/Signet, maybe i would start using party search then.
Spiritz
Another thing about trade - I do recall one time anet "Fixed" trade so if trade chat was on and say you were in ae 1 and someone posted a trade in ae 4 it would show and vice versa.When im in a dist higher than 3 i never see in trade chat anything for districts above me and i have to keep usin the party option and attempt to scroll thru it.
Infact anyone also noticed how bad the party window is - apart from short text length , its the part where new items are added - some reason its all over the place.
Your busy scrolling thru trying to find an item and you go to read a line and suddenly ur position changes and your line is either a few above or few below or worse.
Could anet sort it so new sales are added to bottom of the list which im sure everyone would find easier - us buyers can find things easier and sellers would benifit as well.
Infact anyone also noticed how bad the party window is - apart from short text length , its the part where new items are added - some reason its all over the place.
Your busy scrolling thru trying to find an item and you go to read a line and suddenly ur position changes and your line is either a few above or few below or worse.
Could anet sort it so new sales are added to bottom of the list which im sure everyone would find easier - us buyers can find things easier and sellers would benifit as well.
Shayne Hawke
I would rather have a place to post a large message once and be done with it, but this works too.
/signed
/signed
lewis91
Sounds like an actual good idea. I hate having to look for a seller i spotted in the trade chat because it doesnt fully list it in party search.
/signed.
/signed.
newbie_of_doom
/signed
Totally agreed. Even in pvp you cant put all the elites behind the professions you are looking for, when youre playing tombs.
Totally agreed. Even in pvp you cant put all the elites behind the professions you are looking for, when youre playing tombs.
Malchior
/signed
I personally don't understand the 30 something character limit. You can't get the name of a green in there, it's stats, AND a price. Not to mention if you're buying or selling the thing.
I personally don't understand the 30 something character limit. You can't get the name of a green in there, it's stats, AND a price. Not to mention if you're buying or selling the thing.
DarkGanni
Been discussed before. For the time being I try to compress whole message in that small space and keep it simple no: **/~\WTB ATTRACTION/~\** like messages.
Separating WTB and WTS would be great. However system must be able to switch channels automatically whenever the player switches messages.
/signed
Separating WTB and WTS would be great. However system must be able to switch channels automatically whenever the player switches messages.
/signed
Proff
I personally don't find it much of a problem, but what it does need is a way to sort all the WTB and sells, anything from alphabetically to adding more categories since people tend to only use the missions and trade ones atm.
Verene
/signed.
A dozen times over.
At least make it so that if you hover over the short message in the party search window, it gives you the full message in the little box that pops up.
A dozen times over.
At least make it so that if you hover over the short message in the party search window, it gives you the full message in the little box that pops up.
Operative 14
/Signed
It's been an issue since they first added party search. I remember a REALLY big stink being raised about it when it also cut the messages in the actual chat channel down to 32 characters as well.
At this point it doesn't really effect me, I'm usually trading only one item at a time and I keep it trimmed down so it's coherent yet still fits in the 32 character space. However, it would be really nice if it didn't cut off and it didn't look like you were selling a Max Insc. Crystalline Sword for 100K. Even if it was just a matter of mousing over the entry to get the full description from the chat channel.
However I think Gaile said that there were major technical hurdles to overcome when trying to fix this issue. Maybe with the dedicated live team up and running they can add it to the list of things to do, however.
It's been an issue since they first added party search. I remember a REALLY big stink being raised about it when it also cut the messages in the actual chat channel down to 32 characters as well.
At this point it doesn't really effect me, I'm usually trading only one item at a time and I keep it trimmed down so it's coherent yet still fits in the 32 character space. However, it would be really nice if it didn't cut off and it didn't look like you were selling a Max Insc. Crystalline Sword for 100K. Even if it was just a matter of mousing over the entry to get the full description from the chat channel.
However I think Gaile said that there were major technical hurdles to overcome when trying to fix this issue. Maybe with the dedicated live team up and running they can add it to the list of things to do, however.
Stop The Storm
dont understand why ANYONE would not /sign this
everyone knows the text limit is simply way too low to be of any use at all unless were selling a single item like black dye.
personally in GW2 id like to see a marketplace with player vendors where you can put your items on an npc to sell for you (for a daily fee)
everyone knows the text limit is simply way too low to be of any use at all unless were selling a single item like black dye.
personally in GW2 id like to see a marketplace with player vendors where you can put your items on an npc to sell for you (for a daily fee)
Empress Amarox
The way personal vending works in L2 isn't horrible either... You can make your character basically into an NPC that sells or buys stuff (if buying, you have to have one at least). You get a small colored text message above your head (diff color for b/s) for a short description of your shop.
Then, when you go to sleep at night or go to work (school for the younger players) during the day you can leave your character afk in town and people can come up to you and buy stuff from you or sell stuff to you.
An auction house would be ideal, since it wouldn't require you to afk... But, I didn't think the L2 one was horrible.
Then, when you go to sleep at night or go to work (school for the younger players) during the day you can leave your character afk in town and people can come up to you and buy stuff from you or sell stuff to you.
An auction house would be ideal, since it wouldn't require you to afk... But, I didn't think the L2 one was horrible.
Kay84
/signed
The 32 char limit can make things pretty confusing.
Also, the setting up shop thing in L2 works pretty well imo.
The 32 char limit can make things pretty confusing.
Also, the setting up shop thing in L2 works pretty well imo.
Hyper.nl
/signed
The current party search still seems to be in prototype state. It needs quite some improvement to be truly useful.
The current party search still seems to be in prototype state. It needs quite some improvement to be truly useful.
Shasgaliel
/signed. it will help with recruiting.
Eragon Zarroc
meh, regular chat is there if the party search window isn't big enough. it's much better than when there was no party search window, so deal with the limited space by using abbreviations or telling people to pm u for more info.
JASON626
/signed
It would be nice to actually be able to list something with full description and price.
I honestly use party search alot as handicap as it is.
I'd like to see seperation in the WTB and WTS made into two catagories as well.
kamadan AD1 is good place to learn speed reading...
It would be nice to actually be able to list something with full description and price.
I honestly use party search alot as handicap as it is.
I'd like to see seperation in the WTB and WTS made into two catagories as well.
kamadan AD1 is good place to learn speed reading...
gameshoes3003
/signed I am particularly bothered by not being able to list my items. Also I've tried doing guild recruitment on the party search before, not such a hot method.
kazjun
/signed
Not really useful right now. Especially when it can be so much better with only a small change.
Not really useful right now. Especially when it can be so much better with only a small change.
draxynnic
/Signed
I can understand limiting message size according to the window size, but they could at least make it so that a mouse hover over the message brings up the full message or something like that.
Separation of buyers and sellers would also be useful when it comes to scanning the trade offers... and while it's probably not practical, one thing I'd like to see is some means of making sure that messages don't stay up when the player is AFK or has already made the transaction they were advertising. It's always annoying when someone either doesn't respond or tells you that the transaction they were advertising actually happened half an hour ago - and even those you don't try to trade with are clogging up the search window making it harder to find the ones you're looking for.
I can understand limiting message size according to the window size, but they could at least make it so that a mouse hover over the message brings up the full message or something like that.
Separation of buyers and sellers would also be useful when it comes to scanning the trade offers... and while it's probably not practical, one thing I'd like to see is some means of making sure that messages don't stay up when the player is AFK or has already made the transaction they were advertising. It's always annoying when someone either doesn't respond or tells you that the transaction they were advertising actually happened half an hour ago - and even those you don't try to trade with are clogging up the search window making it harder to find the ones you're looking for.
Sir Pandra Pierva
would rather have a true auction place.
stays up for a week, when you get a buyer you just go pick up your cash, would make it so much easier...
stays up for a week, when you get a buyer you just go pick up your cash, would make it so much easier...
Empress Amarox
Yes well, they've already said multiple times that an auction house simply is not going to happen in the GW1 engine. So, auction house for GW2, increase room in Party Search for GW1, yes?
t3dw4rd0
/Signed, add some sort of scroll to the message, or a view whole message button or something.