Thanks for you answers!!!
Paragon: Attack or Defense
Kim Sythe Weilder
I have been looking at some of the paragon build and have found quite a variety. My question is should the paragon go offensive skills, defensive skills, or a combination of both? Thanks for you answers!!!
Thanks for you answers!!!
Arduin
PvE-wise, the way you want it to be. If you set up your Heroes with a good build, you'll be able to c-space through most content anyway.
And it's not like you can't change your setup later on in the game. Try some builds.
And it's not like you can't change your setup later on in the game. Try some builds.
lewis91
Paragons dont have a great offensive. But have a great defensive. I say go as offensive untill you're into the harder areas of the game, then set up your team with 1 monk and alot of damage output, and you go Imbagon defensive.
tom999
i use the generic imbagon build while running racway
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Racway
to get 1 paragon hero you need to complete Grand Court of Sebelkeh (NF) and to get the other you need to complete Give Peace a Chance (EotN)
Use the edit button
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Racway
to get 1 paragon hero you need to complete Grand Court of Sebelkeh (NF) and to get the other you need to complete Give Peace a Chance (EotN)
Use the edit button
ZenRgy
Both.
Cruel Spear is strong damage.
Cruel Spear is strong damage.
MasterSasori
Paragons should go both. A paragon that focuses only on defense or offense is probably not a good one.
Ney Matogrosso
Well a paragon can do a good damage too, I believe that 60-70 damage is good but I use a diferent imbagon build that posted above. However, a paragon alone is not good, the build that I use need another 2 paragons heros to work well, I alternate the Stun strike (in one hero) with Cruel spear (in another) to maximize the damage/interrupt and work well. The third hero I use a RoJ monk Healer and until now I don't have problems with hex, conditions and I can play in NM and HM very well. My problem using paragon is a good pvp build for AB, JQ and others...
Imbagon: OQGjUumI6SFZxgAh5i7YpbXFubA
Hayda: OQCjUymIqO7YLs8+CXhFyBZ3NA
Morgan: OQCjUymIqO7YLs8W8H+ZwBZ3NA
Healer: OwAT0U3CRynx6LC0lw35uxB8dCA
Enjoy
Imbagon: OQGjUumI6SFZxgAh5i7YpbXFubA
Hayda: OQCjUymIqO7YLs8+CXhFyBZ3NA
Morgan: OQCjUymIqO7YLs8W8H+ZwBZ3NA
Healer: OwAT0U3CRynx6LC0lw35uxB8dCA
Enjoy
MasterSasori
I like the builds you posted Ney, but I have a few quibbles.
First off, I don't really like the smite monk there at all. I think it would be much better to have a Blood Orders Necro there instead. The necro can also provide enchantment removal using [rip enchantment] and [foul feast] if conditions is really a problem. In addition, the necro can go /Mo secondary for hex removal (which is quite necessary in NF) and [aegis].
That IMO would be more useful than a RoJ smite monk.
I also don't see Anthem of Flame to be very useful whatsoever, especially in HM. If you want a condition for Stunning Strike, Barbed Spear would be more useful.
First off, I don't really like the smite monk there at all. I think it would be much better to have a Blood Orders Necro there instead. The necro can also provide enchantment removal using [rip enchantment] and [foul feast] if conditions is really a problem. In addition, the necro can go /Mo secondary for hex removal (which is quite necessary in NF) and [aegis].
That IMO would be more useful than a RoJ smite monk.
I also don't see Anthem of Flame to be very useful whatsoever, especially in HM. If you want a condition for Stunning Strike, Barbed Spear would be more useful.
Ney Matogrosso
Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSasori
I like the builds you posted Ney, but I have a few quibbles.
First off, I don't really like the smite monk there at all. I think it would be much better to have a Blood Orders Necro there instead. The necro can also provide enchantment removal using [rip enchantment] and [foul feast] if conditions is really a problem. In addition, the necro can go /Mo secondary for hex removal (which is quite necessary in NF) and [aegis].
That IMO would be more useful than a RoJ smite monk.
I also don't see Anthem of Flame to be very useful whatsoever, especially in HM. If you want a condition for Stunning Strike, Barbed Spear would be more useful. Thank MisterB for the advice, the post above was my first and I don't know how to use the code for the skills.
So, Master Sasori, the 3° hero is very optional and u can change and use anyone, I like the RoJ monk to aditional damage and the heal that he provide is enought for the group. A order is useful too, but optional, really don't need the extra adrenaline, so, a Nuker work well than a MM, but a MM slow down the party, but the enchant and hex removal is a very good option and I'll try with my heroes. About [Anthem of Flame], I preffer this skill than [Barbed Spear] because the first is a chant and give the possibility of everyone in the party give the condition, Barbed Spear will be limited to the paragons, but if you will fight against destroyers, for example, [Barbed Spear] is the best option.
Well, good to see new possibilitys.
Thy
I try to create a build to increase Conditions/Hex/Enchant removal, like sugested above. I tested the build in Blacktide Den/Lahtenda Bog and work well with one monk (henchman) in HM.
| Blood Magic | 10 + 1 + 1
| Curses | 8 + 1
| Soul Reaping | 8 + 1
| Healing Prayers | 7
[build=OANUQUDew2RbBTCGC7OJgaCTfvTA]
However the energy is a problem, one time he uses [Foul Feast] like an insane ([Aggressive Refrain] give us Broken armor), for this reason I prefer to use [Well of Power]. When you play in areas whitout hexes, try change the atributes from heal prayers to protection prayers and change [Cure Hex] from [Aegis].
Look good, My paragons deal a lot of damage, only changing the Roj Monk for this Necro.
Suggestions?
Thy
Use the edit button - Marty
First off, I don't really like the smite monk there at all. I think it would be much better to have a Blood Orders Necro there instead. The necro can also provide enchantment removal using [rip enchantment] and [foul feast] if conditions is really a problem. In addition, the necro can go /Mo secondary for hex removal (which is quite necessary in NF) and [aegis].
That IMO would be more useful than a RoJ smite monk.
I also don't see Anthem of Flame to be very useful whatsoever, especially in HM. If you want a condition for Stunning Strike, Barbed Spear would be more useful. Thank MisterB for the advice, the post above was my first and I don't know how to use the code for the skills.
So, Master Sasori, the 3° hero is very optional and u can change and use anyone, I like the RoJ monk to aditional damage and the heal that he provide is enought for the group. A order is useful too, but optional, really don't need the extra adrenaline, so, a Nuker work well than a MM, but a MM slow down the party, but the enchant and hex removal is a very good option and I'll try with my heroes. About [Anthem of Flame], I preffer this skill than [Barbed Spear] because the first is a chant and give the possibility of everyone in the party give the condition, Barbed Spear will be limited to the paragons, but if you will fight against destroyers, for example, [Barbed Spear] is the best option.
Well, good to see new possibilitys.
Thy
I try to create a build to increase Conditions/Hex/Enchant removal, like sugested above. I tested the build in Blacktide Den/Lahtenda Bog and work well with one monk (henchman) in HM.
| Blood Magic | 10 + 1 + 1
| Curses | 8 + 1
| Soul Reaping | 8 + 1
| Healing Prayers | 7
[build=OANUQUDew2RbBTCGC7OJgaCTfvTA]
However the energy is a problem, one time he uses [Foul Feast] like an insane ([Aggressive Refrain] give us Broken armor), for this reason I prefer to use [Well of Power]. When you play in areas whitout hexes, try change the atributes from heal prayers to protection prayers and change [Cure Hex] from [Aegis].
Look good, My paragons deal a lot of damage, only changing the Roj Monk for this Necro.
Suggestions?
Thy
Use the edit button - Marty
Crassus Praetor
Plague Sending instead of Plague Touch
I would use both offence and defence, and prefer Stunning Strike to Cruel Spear
I would use both offence and defence, and prefer Stunning Strike to Cruel Spear
Ney Matogrosso
CrimsonDaggers
Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSasori
Paragons should go both. A paragon that focuses only on defense or offense is probably not a good one.
I agree with MS, I think a the difference between a good Paragon and a great one is finding the balance between both.
The Furious Shouter and the Imbagon both do a good job of this.
The Furious Shouter and the Imbagon both do a good job of this.