People never seem to understand the beauty of Air of Superiority for a build like this.
I must admit that I don't understand it at first glance here. Care to explain?
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[SY sin;AXIyI3xkBUNo+T3z+TM4VhMJ]
With an orders hero, you can pretty much spam "Dodge This!" every attack under Dark Fury. As ridiculous as the idea of screaming that every half second is, It's pretty insane damage wise.
Though generally, if you're going -solely- for SY!, sub "Dodge This!" for Air of Superiority,
With an orders hero, you can pretty much spam "Dodge This!" every attack under Dark Fury. As ridiculous as the idea of screaming that every half second is, It's pretty insane damage wise.
Though generally, if you're going -solely- for SY!, sub "Dodge This!" for Air of Superiority,
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I've tested the bar in various HM zones and it is without a doubt the fastest SY-spamming build I've ever seen. That doesn't mean it's necessarily the greatest PvE-build in the history of GW, however. I find that it's still inferior to a d-slash warrior because although it can spam SY faster and more consistently, it doesn't have KD. You could add KD with [brawling headbutt], of course, but then you'd be out of PvE-only skills, because [critical agility] and obviously ["save yourselves!" (luxon)] are indispensable.
As for the attack skills--I agree that they don't do too much damage and that [golden phoenix strike] won't give you any double-strikes, but the combination DOES make sure that [critical agility] recharges endlessly (as long as it's not stripped), and the recharges are long enough that you're not constantly using them. If anyone has better ideas about what could go in those two slots, I'd be glad to hear them--but they have to be regular sin or war skills, not PvE-only skills. I wouldn't write off [critical defenses] quite as readily as most other people in this thread (because you're going to be taking a ton of hits), but then of course you're going to be doing even less damage.
Finally, to whoever said the build needs a buff: last I checked, [asuran scan] and [ebon battle standard of honor] are buffs. Between those two, I'd go with the latter. But, again, it would mean that you're going to be short on KD.
Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Dawg
As for the attack skills--I agree that they don't do too much damage and that [golden phoenix strike] won't give you any double-strikes, but the combination DOES make sure that [critical agility] recharges endlessly (as long as it's not stripped), and the recharges are long enough that you're not constantly using them. If anyone has better ideas about what could go in those two slots, I'd be glad to hear them--but they have to be regular sin or war skills, not PvE-only skills. I wouldn't write off [critical defenses] quite as readily as most other people in this thread (because you're going to be taking a ton of hits), but then of course you're going to be doing even less damage.
Finally, to whoever said the build needs a buff: last I checked, [asuran scan] and [ebon battle standard of honor] are buffs. Between those two, I'd go with the latter. But, again, it would mean that you're going to be short on KD.
Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Dawg
Why not something like this?
[locust's fury]["for great justice!" (pve)][critical agility][critical eye][golden phoenix strike][critical strike]["save yourselves!" (luxon)]
... and then an open slot for whatever you'd like, [sunspear rebirth signet], [critical defenses], [pain inverter], [asuran scan], [ebon battle standard of honor], you name it. Just attack normally, and throw in [golden phoenix strike][critical strike] for assured critical hits whenever they're available.
[locust's fury]["for great justice!" (pve)][critical agility][critical eye][golden phoenix strike][critical strike]["save yourselves!" (luxon)]
... and then an open slot for whatever you'd like, [sunspear rebirth signet], [critical defenses], [pain inverter], [asuran scan], [ebon battle standard of honor], you name it. Just attack normally, and throw in [golden phoenix strike][critical strike] for assured critical hits whenever they're available.
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Because [wild blow] drains all your adrenaline--kind of a downer in a build that's designed to spam SY.
Quote: Originally Posted by FoxBat
Quote: Originally Posted by FoxBat
[Wild Blow] why are we even bothering with critical strike/eye?
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The bar now looks like this:
[locust's fury]["for great justice!" (pve)][critical agility][critical eye]["save yourselves!" (luxon)][disrupting stab][distracting blow][pain inverter]
I subbed in [disrupting stab] and [distracting blow] for [golden phoenix strike]/[critical strike] in order to make up for the lack of KD, and you don't really need the attack skills because you get plenty of critical hits as it is.
Personally, I think it's a killer defensive bar. Go try it out. If you want to sub out [pain inverter] for something like [ebon battle standard of honor], I could see the logic in that, but [pain inverter] is infinitely useful when you're hero-henching, so I opted for it.
[locust's fury]["for great justice!" (pve)][critical agility][critical eye]["save yourselves!" (luxon)][disrupting stab][distracting blow][pain inverter]
I subbed in [disrupting stab] and [distracting blow] for [golden phoenix strike]/[critical strike] in order to make up for the lack of KD, and you don't really need the attack skills because you get plenty of critical hits as it is.
Personally, I think it's a killer defensive bar. Go try it out. If you want to sub out [pain inverter] for something like [ebon battle standard of honor], I could see the logic in that, but [pain inverter] is infinitely useful when you're hero-henching, so I opted for it.
You can run [locust's fury] because it's PvE and nobody gives a damn. Don't EVER be fooled into thinking that it's good.
My 2p.
Quote: Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
My 2p.
Quote: Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
People never seem to understand the beauty of Air of Superiority for a build like this.
I think I do, recharge of [For Great Justice]. But guess what?
It only takes one Orders guy or [anthem of fury] Para to ensure I can keep up SY! - and that's on my MS/DB build, so FGJ! isn't even needed. Skill slot better spent on something else, imho.
It only takes one Orders guy or [anthem of fury] Para to ensure I can keep up SY! - and that's on my MS/DB build, so FGJ! isn't even needed. Skill slot better spent on something else, imho.
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Ummm, yeah, ["save yourselves!" (luxon)] is a PvE-only skill. Obviously we're talking about PvE.
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobby2
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobby2
You can run [locust's fury] because it's PvE and nobody gives a damn. Don't EVER be fooled into thinking that it's good.
actually, locusts fury isn't that bad.
imo its superior than ms/db in nm...but fares much worse in hm.
its dps is more reliable than ms/db since its dmg output efficiency tops out as long as your hitting something. ms/db has its most efficient damage output only when db is activated. db is activated less often in nm since things die so fast. and of course, armour-ignoring dmg is less important in nm.
but this doesn't completely nullify its usefulness in hm. the advantage is obviously for better synergy with skills like [save yourselves], [order of pain], [mark of pain], etc.
better than ms/db? no, but definitely not a horrible skill.
imo its superior than ms/db in nm...but fares much worse in hm.
its dps is more reliable than ms/db since its dmg output efficiency tops out as long as your hitting something. ms/db has its most efficient damage output only when db is activated. db is activated less often in nm since things die so fast. and of course, armour-ignoring dmg is less important in nm.
but this doesn't completely nullify its usefulness in hm. the advantage is obviously for better synergy with skills like [save yourselves], [order of pain], [mark of pain], etc.
better than ms/db? no, but definitely not a horrible skill.
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