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19 Apr 2009 at 23:26 - 1

and we won't have a server (for GW2) in latin america, so we could achieve lower latency ingame.Since the launch of prophecies there is a HUGE community which speak spanish and portuguese who lives in Latin America, i'm almost sure that it's 3x times bigger or even more than Japanese/Taiwan community and however we don't have server located here which would seriously help the latin gamers who helped this game to have continuous growth to keep buyin and playing this game.

I know that most people here couldn't care less about this, but i'm sure that there is many people here that agree with me and would like to know the reason for that, since NCsoft have representation almost anywhere (including in South America) and that wouldn't cost that much.

Too late to bitch about this since it's been 4 years since GW launch but hey, at least show some love for those who supported you when GW2 launchs.

PS: I'm saying that cuz i'm really fed up with getting 280-400 ms ping from american servers and not being able to infuse/interrupt properly and not doing some roles as well as i could do, and ITS NOT my connection/route since i have a 10mb connection very well configured. Thanks anyway for the attention, show some love

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19 Apr 2009 at 23:57 - 2

Those of us in Oceania have to live with the same thing. It sucks, but deal with it because it isn't going to change any time soon.

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20 Apr 2009 at 00:04 - 3

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Originally Posted by Revelations

Those of us in Oceania have to live with the same thing. It sucks, but deal with it because it isn't going to change any time soon.

It's hard to believe that they ignored both continents like this, and support china which is obviously a WoW "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO" and will forever be.Does anyone have ever told regina that? so she could tell the GW2 team to not forget about some huge market which could give at least 500k players for their "chart" ?!

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20 Apr 2009 at 00:07 - 4

Don't forget Africa or Antarctica and the huge client bases they could potentially provide

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20 Apr 2009 at 00:21 - 5

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Originally Posted by Revelations

Don't forget Africa or Antarctica and the huge client bases they could potentially provide

That was just dumb.

OP has a point and it's funny cuz I used to game with some chinese who lived in south america. Arenanet is looking for more money and all they have to do is set up servers and better service their existing customers down there. The game is built all they need to do is add some servers to get more people to buy and play the game.

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20 Apr 2009 at 00:49 - 6

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Originally Posted by Showtime

...The game is built all they need to do is add some servers to get more people to buy and play the game.

No, THAT was just dumb. As I was attempting to point out, this is a pretty massive effort for a relatively small reward. Setting up new servers all over the world is going to cost a lot of time and money, and for a 'dying' game is definitely not worth it to Anet.

It is annoying to people who do live in these areas, but we just have to face up to the fact that we are a relative minority and will probably not be catered to in the same way as the rest of the world.

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20 Apr 2009 at 00:52 - 7

The only thing that cross my mind when i think about this (why didn't they put a server in both - Oceania and South America) it's that they never really though that the game was going to break this barrier and be the only game who really stood up to World of Warcraft "greatness" making gamers from all over the world want to play this.

Nevertheless, we can't get in touch to Guild Wars 2 team so probably they will ignore AGAIN a great piece of the market and launch the game in the same way that they did with the original Guild Wars. :/ Too bad. GTG.

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20 Apr 2009 at 00:57 - 8

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Originally Posted by Revelations

No, THAT was just dumb. As I was attempting to point out, this is a pretty massive effort for a relatively small reward. Setting up new servers all over the world is going to cost a lot of time and money, and for a 'dying' game is definitely not worth it to Anet.

It is annoying to people who do live in these areas, but we just have to face up to the fact that we are a relative minority and will probably not be catered to in the same way as the rest of the world.

Take that for Oceania cuz believe me there is a HUGE MASSIVE COMMUNITY from Latin America, and there is a great POTENTIAL to awake MORE customers if they just put 1 or two servers located here.

Not talking about GW1, dead game is dead - i'm talking about what could happen to GW2 if give a little respect... GTG ;(

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20 Apr 2009 at 01:00 - 9

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Originally Posted by I ride my Pokemon

Take that for Oceania cuz believe me there is a HUGE MASSIVE COMMUNITY from Latin America...

There is a pretty big community down here also, but it pales in comparison to North America or Europe. I would imagine similar results when comparing South America to those also. There may be a lot of us, but face it, we're still a minority - and when have developers started catering to the minority?

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20 Apr 2009 at 01:09 - 10

How did copies of the game get into Mexico anyway?

LOL, J/K, it would seem odd for a company to not at least look into the possibility of placing servers in places that "Warrant" enough people to do so. So it must be that 500k people isn't much to them. Odd but true.

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20 Apr 2009 at 01:18 - 11

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Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

How did copies of the game get into Mexico anyway?

LOL, J/K, it would seem odd for a company to not at least look into the possibility of placing servers in places that "Warrant" enough people to do so. So it must be that 500k people isn't much to them. Odd but true.

I would say it's more due to the fact that 500k is likely something of an exaggerated estimate. Not to mention the fact that Anet probably DID consider it and rejected the idea. Of course with no confirmation of this from an Anet staff member this is impossible to say for sure, but it seems logical that they would have considered having servers in other parts of the world also.

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20 Apr 2009 at 01:40 - 12

Nope its not an over exagerrated estimate.Not at all.There was ONE alliance with over 1000 players from Brazil and they were PvE-Based not counting other alliances from that country neither, most of them really active not counting the casual players and those who purchased and don't play anymore (and again there is many more alliances from that country which i'm not counting and they are as big as this one that i was once in).

Take that as an example and now join with these countries: Mexico, Argentina, Colômbia, Venezuela, Chile, Peru, Cuba, Equador, Guatemala, República Dominicana,Costa Rica Trinidad e Tobago,El Salvador, Uruguai, Panamá, Jamaica, Bolívia, Honduras, Paraguai, Bahamas, Nicarágua, Haiti, Barbados, Antilhas Neerlandesas, Suriname, Belize,Antígua e Barbuda, Santa Lúcia, Guiana, Granada, São Cristóvão e Névis, São Vicente e Granadinas, Dominica.

You would EASILY get 500k players AND LIKE I SAID, it's a community bigger than Japanese/Taiwan/Chinese and why latin america doesnt have ONE SINGLE server located in south america?!
I'm not sayin that it's as big as North America/Europe community, i wouldn't dare to say that.

I'm from Portugal although i'm living in Brazil for almost 5 years. And i can say with certainty there is a HUGE potential here for GW2 even knowing that Anet ignored them in GW1.Not only that they are the biggest community after America and Europe in GW1, that's for sure. I'm not asking them to do that NOW, the game is dieing that wouldn't help just make Anet spend their last Resources, i'm just discussing something that was ignored and it can't be ignored twice when they launch GW2.

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20 Apr 2009 at 01:44 - 13

Yep, we here in Australasia have had the same gripes since this game started....

Aussie Boy

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20 Apr 2009 at 01:53 - 14

We have always wanted/needed a server here in AU but we will never get one not even for GW2 I don't think

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20 Apr 2009 at 02:12 - 15

aren't i right in thinking that the Japanese/Korean community also no longer have dedicated servers?

new server locations would be a nice addition for competitive play. unlikely though.

Skyy High

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20 Apr 2009 at 02:24 - 16

They have servers in Asia because NCSoft has a (large) presence there. Same with America and Europe. You're basically asking them to set up a new facility in South America just so you can drop your ping from 300 to 150ms.

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20 Apr 2009 at 02:27 - 17

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Originally Posted by Revelations

No, THAT was just dumb. As I was attempting to point out, this is a pretty massive effort for a relatively small reward. Setting up new servers all over the world is going to cost a lot of time and money, and for a 'dying' game is definitely not worth it to Anet.

It is annoying to people who do live in these areas, but we just have to face up to the fact that we are a relative minority and will probably not be catered to in the same way as the rest of the world.

You were attempting to be a smart ass but failed at being smart. To lump south america in with anartica (?) or even africa is stupid. No one said to set up servers all over the world. Only to set up a south american server for a well populated and growing internet population.

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20 Apr 2009 at 02:35 - 18

People in South America can afford internet?

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20 Apr 2009 at 03:54 - 19

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Originally Posted by samerkablamer

People in South America can afford internet?

Just because some people there cant afford it, doesnt mean everyone cant.
Some people in US/Europe/Wherever your from, cant afford internet either.

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20 Apr 2009 at 05:02 - 20

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Originally Posted by Showtime

You were attempting to be a smart ass but failed at being smart. To lump south america in with anartica (?) or even africa is stupid. No one said to set up servers all over the world. Only to set up a south american server for a well populated and growing internet population.

Pretty sure the only thing that failed was your sense of humor. And your ability to perceive people's points. I was simply using those as an (obviously) exaggerated comparison. Setting up servers in a location where Anet have no previous facilities/resources/employees is a ridiculous expense, which is completely infeasible for GW, and will likely be ruled out for GW2. Unless of course that Anet decide that the community there is indeed big enough to warrant such an investment.

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20 Apr 2009 at 05:27 - 21

I think the OP has a valid point when relating it to the release of GW2. Warhammer was released with oceanic servers and I know a dozen people (myself included) that bought the game just for that fact... too bad the game turned out to be a let-down... but my point is that having localised servers does help with attracting customers within that region.

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20 Apr 2009 at 06:04 - 22

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

They have servers in Asia because NCSoft has a (large) presence there. Same with America and Europe. You're basically asking them to set up a new facility in South America just so you can drop your ping from 300 to 150ms.

wow I wish I had 300 ping, here in NZ mine hovers around 500.

Ever tried infusing or protting with 500 ping? Not cool at all. I would most definately buy GW2 if it had oceanic servers.

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20 Apr 2009 at 06:40 - 23

why do you even bother speculating about a game that's no where near completed yet?

as for the current situation with gw servers... qq less and build a bridge. us aussies bitched about it forever and a day and that got us no where. lag and pings are so much worse currently, then they ever have been, but suck it up or go find another game to play becuase i dont see them adding expensive servers in other countries for the good of the player base. have some common sense and logic.

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20 Apr 2009 at 06:54 - 24

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Originally Posted by samerkablamer

People in South America can afford internet?

without having South America to exploit America would have die long ago :P

Chocobo1

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20 Apr 2009 at 06:55 - 25

Hey while we are suggesting new servers, I'd love something in Australia/New Zealand so I didn't have to play on 600 ping. It pretty much kicks me out from being a decent mesmer or monk : (.

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20 Apr 2009 at 06:56 - 26

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wow I wish I had 300 ping, here in NZ mine hovers around 500.

Orly? What part of the country are you in to get that sort of horrible latency? Mine averages 280-300, dropping to 250 on a good day. I go and ranger in RA on a 250 day. I can sometimes even dshot 3/4 on reflex on those days if I've had enough Coke or something.

Oceanic servers would be brilliant, don't get me wrong, but it's somewhat doubtful that they'll be considered feasible enough to be implemented. Plus you then have the issue of PvP, where you'll frequently be playing on international servers again, making your ping pretty dynamic. This happens even now between American/Euro servers - though to our out of the way corner of the world this is currently a non-issue.

EDIT: Another Aussie/Kiwi who gets such a high ping? You people need a better ISP.

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20 Apr 2009 at 07:24 - 27

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Originally Posted by nix1016

I think the OP has a valid point when relating it to the release of GW2. Warhammer was released with oceanic servers and I know a dozen people (myself included) that bought the game just for that fact... too bad the game turned out to be a let-down... but my point is that having localised servers does help with attracting customers within that region.

I was considering that too haha!
But I realised that gw was still the superior game even with inferior pings.
However I really hope that the fact that Anet produced a superior product provides sufficient justification for me, having experienced the occasionally frustrating latency of the game, to be purchasing their sequel.

Seriously It's annoying enough now when you press a button and have to wait half a second before the casting animation starts, and you stop moving when u see bull's strike activate, only to fall on your arse and mystically transport to where u were a second ago.

Just Imagine This Latency With a Z axis and 'Jumping'/climbing etc....
You skill fully navigate a set of platforms with the old school grace seen in games like Mario 64, reach the chest in anticipation of your reward, only to be magically rubberbanded to your death in the bottomless abyss....

That would suck, and I ain't paying for it!

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20 Apr 2009 at 08:00 - 28

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Originally Posted by Revelations

Orly? What part of the country are you in to get that sort of horrible latency? Mine averages 280-300, dropping to 250 on a good day. I go and ranger in RA on a 250 day. I can sometimes even dshot 3/4 on reflex on those days if I've had enough Coke or something.

Oceanic servers would be brilliant, don't get me wrong, but it's somewhat doubtful that they'll be considered feasible enough to be implemented. Plus you then have the issue of PvP, where you'll frequently be playing on international servers again, making your ping pretty dynamic. This happens even now between American/Euro servers - though to our out of the way corner of the world this is currently a non-issue.

EDIT: Another Aussie/Kiwi who gets such a high ping? You people need a better ISP.

Im in Auckland, but not in the city centre

all the decent ISPs require you to be closer to the city centre. Most people I know are stuck with 300-500 ping like me though.

edit: my dl speeds are fine, usually in the 100-200 kb/s area.

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20 Apr 2009 at 08:38 - 29

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Originally Posted by I ride my Pokemon

PS: I'm saying that cuz i'm really fed up with getting 280-400 ms ping from american servers and not being able to infuse/interrupt properly and not doing some roles as well as i could do, and ITS NOT my connection/route since i have a 10mb connection very well configured. Thanks anyway for the attention, show some love

I live in America but get about that same ping. Not saying that's good but yeah, I really wish I could have 100ms all the time (can't I dream!?) so I could interrupt. I usually miss every interrupt.

Anything I can do to improve my ping time?

(funny how we're complaining over MS too lol, but it does make a difference...)

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20 Apr 2009 at 09:34 - 30

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Originally Posted by Revelations

Pretty sure the only thing that failed was your sense of humor. And your ability to perceive people's points. I was simply using those as an (obviously) exaggerated comparison. Setting up servers in a location where Anet have no previous facilities/resources/employees is a ridiculous expense, which is completely infeasible for GW, and will likely be ruled out for GW2. Unless of course that Anet decide that the community there is indeed big enough to warrant such an investment.

Next time try not to mix your exaggerated comparisons with your slightly less exaggerated, but just as wrong opinions. It's hard to tell where you are embellishing and where you are just being dumb. You came across as someone who had no idea what South America and their various people are like. Along with all the stereotypes that you must believe, they have huge cities with universities and people who can read and they even have access to the internet. Amazing? I know it's crazy.

Now as far as cost goes, setting up servers would be an investment. NC Soft already did the hard part and that was to create a fun and fairly stable platform to game on. Setting up servers there should be relatively cheap compared to the initial investment. South america could yield a lot of profits if they were to invest and market GW and the expansions there. If im not mistaken, Diablo2 had/has servers down there. That must have been profitable for blizzard to do and it cost a lot more to do it back then.

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20 Apr 2009 at 11:53 - 31

What bother me the most it's that we don't know how to grammar...
Anyway all joking aside, your saying all these ping numbers ...i can only dream of such low numbers, my internet is awful where i live (england), not the country as a whole but my area and other things that guarantee connection speed

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20 Apr 2009 at 17:42 - 32

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Originally Posted by I ride my Pokemon

PS: I'm saying that cuz i'm really fed up with getting 280-400 ms ping from american servers and not being able to infuse/interrupt properly and not doing some roles as well as i could do

Dude, I get >300ms most of the time. I dont know where Anet are keeping their servers, but those seem to suck. I live in Germany and have played (UT) on servers stationed in California, alabama and similar, and ping never was higher than 180-200ms. And thats pretty much on the other side of the damn world... So where are those sucky Anet servers at really???

And no, its not my connection either, how come I ping 12ms-24ms to most western europe servers? 10mbit connection here as well...

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Originally Posted by Showtime

If im not mistaken, Diablo2 had/has servers down there. That must have been profitable for blizzard to do and it cost a lot more to do it back then.

Its another thing really, blizzard does use Battle.net for pretty much every game they have. Not just one

Alleji

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20 Apr 2009 at 17:50 - 33

Uh, I live in Canada and I get 200-300 ping all the time. I had <100 ping on WoW, also North American server.

Anet's servers are just bad, regardless of where you live.

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20 Apr 2009 at 18:20 - 34

Needs some servers in the middle east as well then.

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20 Apr 2009 at 19:35 - 35

Mine averages about 160 or less sometimes I might hit 200 on a bad day.

fb2000

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20 Apr 2009 at 21:30 - 36

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Originally Posted by Obrien Xp

Actually you just fail.

Lol, because the difference between 200 average vs 250 average is THAT huge

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20 Apr 2009 at 22:11 - 37

No, its because if you're getting high ping then there's a good chance of lag. She got lag (or at least that's what I understood) I didn't and the ping difference wasn't high, though I will go down to 100ping when servers aren't full during fests or the 7pm-10pm spree.

slowerpoke

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20 Apr 2009 at 22:35 - 38

I prefer the GW one server model.

No bigger fail than having characters limited to just one server, and things like population caps and login queuing.

And later the embarrasing server merges due to population decine

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21 Apr 2009 at 01:10 - 39

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Originally Posted by Revelations

Orly? What part of the country are you in to get that sort of horrible latency? Mine averages 280-300, dropping to 250 on a good day. I go and ranger in RA on a 250 day. I can sometimes even dshot 3/4 on reflex on those days if I've had enough Coke or something.

Oceanic servers would be brilliant, don't get me wrong, but it's somewhat doubtful that they'll be considered feasible enough to be implemented. Plus you then have the issue of PvP, where you'll frequently be playing on international servers again, making your ping pretty dynamic. This happens even now between American/Euro servers - though to our out of the way corner of the world this is currently a non-issue.

EDIT: Another Aussie/Kiwi who gets such a high ping? You people need a better ISP.

Where are you at? I'm in Christchurch and bah my pings are terrible in PvP. My ISP isn't actually too bad, I just always thought that it was the price to pay for playing Guild Wars in a far away country.

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21 Apr 2009 at 01:51 - 40

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Where are you at? I'm in Christchurch and bah my pings are terrible in PvP. My ISP isn't actually too bad, I just always thought that it was the price to pay for playing Guild Wars in a far away country.

Hamilton. My pings are pretty bad, but that's comparing it against Euro/US players. As mentioned earlier I normally average slightly less than 300. It fluctuates a bit though, from 240-380ish.