by using 2 accounts and one person leaving, what heroes would you take?
the main account has all campaigns and all heroes and using discord, but I have EotN on the other account so I can use those heroes, but I am not sure who to take and what skills they should have,
my main account will be using a Ranger mostly and maybe a Warrior some times.
thanks for your input, I'd love to be able to use a 6 man discord but I don't have all the games for the second account
if you were running 6 heroes...
nameless bond
Ghostcell
discord heroes as much as you can, then put it something like a monk or an ele to fill up for the missing necro heroes.
ajc2123
I would use 5 RoJ Monks and a MM XP
3 RoJ smiters 1 RoJ Healer and one RoJ prot
Probably overboard but.....ION CANNONS
3 RoJ smiters 1 RoJ Healer and one RoJ prot
Probably overboard but.....ION CANNONS
subarucar
If your limited to Proph and EOTN skills on account number 2, you would be better off with henchmen for the extra party member.
If you have a nice guild or alliance im sure somebody would drop of some necro heros with the correct skills for you, ive had people do it for me.
Edit: If you see me on and im not busy, i would be happy to drop some heroes off for you. IGN: Yet To Be Named
If you have a nice guild or alliance im sure somebody would drop of some necro heros with the correct skills for you, ive had people do it for me.
Edit: If you see me on and im not busy, i would be happy to drop some heroes off for you. IGN: Yet To Be Named
exploiter
6x Discord
12
12
Unknown Duli
mix it up alittle and have fun, I use the triple nec discord (modified) then for other 3
I bring a WoH monk, Support Para, and AoE ele
I bring a WoH monk, Support Para, and AoE ele
TheodenKing
What works with 3 works with 6. So if your thing is discord, load em up.
But if I had that many heroes, I'd probably throw an orders hero in there, and a shutdown mesmer, and maybe a splinter rit.
But if I had that many heroes, I'd probably throw an orders hero in there, and a shutdown mesmer, and maybe a splinter rit.
Improvavel
Necros and paragons. You don't need more than 3 discords.
upier
You guys aren't listening!
The OP has 2 accounts.
One with all the games and one with C1+GWEN only. And he wants to set up a team build using those guys.
Personally, I'd look into Livia and Ogden from your C1+GWEN account and making the healers/protters. Stuff like Aegis, WoH, PS, Dwayna's Kiss are all core/c1 and you get Cure Hex, Patient Spirit, Foul Feast in GWEN. Those guys should work nicely.
As for the third option?
Ele? Wards, Deep Freeze, Blinding Flash, Blurred Vision Thunderclap/Water Trident? (I know it's 3 lines there - just go with 2 + ES - depending on what you'd need the most.)
Gwen? Mantra Of Recovery, Drain Ench, Cry Of Frustration, Power Drain, Enfeebling Blood, Shadow Of Fear, Shatter Hex, Shatter Ench, Power Spike - something in those lines?
The guys on the full account should be damage dealers. If you'd run RoJ though (since these guys should have smite prots and some 2 empty slots that you can fill up with real prots or heals) - then you can make C1-Livia into a MM bomber with curses support.
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Khmm, I tried wiki-ing but I can't seem to find the info.
I remember a trick where you could capture skills from expansions you don't own. While those skills would be unusable by the player - heroes could bring them.
Did I just dream this or is there something similar in the game?
The OP has 2 accounts.
One with all the games and one with C1+GWEN only. And he wants to set up a team build using those guys.
Personally, I'd look into Livia and Ogden from your C1+GWEN account and making the healers/protters. Stuff like Aegis, WoH, PS, Dwayna's Kiss are all core/c1 and you get Cure Hex, Patient Spirit, Foul Feast in GWEN. Those guys should work nicely.
As for the third option?
Ele? Wards, Deep Freeze, Blinding Flash, Blurred Vision Thunderclap/Water Trident? (I know it's 3 lines there - just go with 2 + ES - depending on what you'd need the most.)
Gwen? Mantra Of Recovery, Drain Ench, Cry Of Frustration, Power Drain, Enfeebling Blood, Shadow Of Fear, Shatter Hex, Shatter Ench, Power Spike - something in those lines?
The guys on the full account should be damage dealers. If you'd run RoJ though (since these guys should have smite prots and some 2 empty slots that you can fill up with real prots or heals) - then you can make C1-Livia into a MM bomber with curses support.
EDIT:
Khmm, I tried wiki-ing but I can't seem to find the info.
I remember a trick where you could capture skills from expansions you don't own. While those skills would be unusable by the player - heroes could bring them.
Did I just dream this or is there something similar in the game?
zwei2stein
nameless bond
Shadowhaze
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Originally Posted by ajc2123
I would use 5 RoJ Monks and a MM XP
3 RoJ smiters 1 RoJ Healer and one RoJ prot
Probably overboard but.....ION CANNONS XD
I'd probably go mostly discord too with a monk and maybe something else thrown in.
3 RoJ smiters 1 RoJ Healer and one RoJ prot
Probably overboard but.....ION CANNONS XD
I'd probably go mostly discord too with a monk and maybe something else thrown in.
upier
unknown101
is discord that much better then ROJ?
how about 3 each?
or should it be 6 one
how about 3 each?
or should it be 6 one
Daesu
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Originally Posted by unknown101
is discord that much better then ROJ?
how about 3 each?
or should it be 6 one Discord is single target damage while RoJ is AoE damage. Making use of minions from discordway to hold the target in place and to provide a flesh wall, would help a RoJ team. Discordway+RoJway works well in general.
how about 3 each?
or should it be 6 one Discord is single target damage while RoJ is AoE damage. Making use of minions from discordway to hold the target in place and to provide a flesh wall, would help a RoJ team. Discordway+RoJway works well in general.
Super Igor
Also makes up for Discord's lack of unconditional hex/condition removal in turn Discord makes up for RoJ's lack of strong redbarring. Still like my 6 hero Discord better though.
legacyofkain85
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Originally Posted by exploiter
6x Discord
12 this ^^,vanquished everything twice with it
12 this ^^,vanquished everything twice with it
distilledwill
I would run this:
[build prof=N/Rt soul=11+1 Death=12+1+1 Curses=6+1 resto=3][Discord][weaken armor][enfeebling blood][Putrid Bile][Rotting Flesh][Malign Intervention][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=N/Mo soul=8+1 Death=14+1+1 heal=10][Discord][animate bone minions][putrid bile][Dwayna's Sorrow][Cure Hex][Patient Spirit][Signet Of Lost Souls][resurrection chant][/build]
[build prof=N/Me soul=8+1 curses=10+1 death=12+1+1][Discord][Barbs][Rip Enchantment][defile defenses][Shadow of Fear][suffering][Epidemic][Signet of Lost Souls][/build]
[Build prof=N/mo soul=8+1 death=14+1+3 prot=10][Jagged Bones][Animate Bone Minions][Death Nova][Feast for the Dead][Convert Hexes][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Signet of Lost Souls][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt soul=12+1+1 resto=12][Xinrae's Weapon][mend body and soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][foul feast][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt soul=11+1+1 chann=10 resto=10][Icy Veins][Splinter Weapon][Ancestors' Rage][spirit light][bloodsong][Protective Was Kaolai][Signet of Lost Souls][flesh of my flesh][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt soul=11+1 Death=12+1+1 Curses=6+1 resto=3][Discord][weaken armor][enfeebling blood][Putrid Bile][Rotting Flesh][Malign Intervention][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=N/Mo soul=8+1 Death=14+1+1 heal=10][Discord][animate bone minions][putrid bile][Dwayna's Sorrow][Cure Hex][Patient Spirit][Signet Of Lost Souls][resurrection chant][/build]
[build prof=N/Me soul=8+1 curses=10+1 death=12+1+1][Discord][Barbs][Rip Enchantment][defile defenses][Shadow of Fear][suffering][Epidemic][Signet of Lost Souls][/build]
[Build prof=N/mo soul=8+1 death=14+1+3 prot=10][Jagged Bones][Animate Bone Minions][Death Nova][Feast for the Dead][Convert Hexes][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Signet of Lost Souls][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt soul=12+1+1 resto=12][Xinrae's Weapon][mend body and soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][foul feast][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=N/Rt soul=11+1+1 chann=10 resto=10][Icy Veins][Splinter Weapon][Ancestors' Rage][spirit light][bloodsong][Protective Was Kaolai][Signet of Lost Souls][flesh of my flesh][/build]
Paul Dawg
[icy veins]?
Umm why?
Umm why?
Lishy
Daesu
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
It has excellent primary damage, is of an attribute the n/rt would of already had maxed out anyways, and its secondary effects allows damage to be more spread since the target would die in a matter of seconds. It's great, really.
But if it is not armor ignoring, it may not be as useful in HM as [putrid bile].
distilledwill
I use [icy veins @14] for the following reasons.
It does cause damage. I know, I know, blah blah HM high armour,cold damage blah, but the damage is there, deal with it.
It also allows for AoE damage on death, which is usually very fast (see aforementioned blah blah).
It is maxed out at 14, so I'm getting all I can from it.
Also, Igor, wtf? Long recharge? 5 seconds? It has SHORT recharge and a LONG duration. hex to fuel discord.
Lack of better alternatives.
[[defiant was xinrae] - why would I use this?
[[preservation] - random heals, long cast time, long recharge. This isn't HB.
[[Spirit light weapon] - MAYBE. But I already have splinter and xinrae being thrown around, its best not to confuse things. The heals are rather insignificant due to the redbarring of other heroes and the prots coming from the MM.
[[Tranquil Was Tanasen] - no, just no.
[[Vengeful Was Khanhei] - this isnt a solo farm build.
[[weapon of remedy] - already have FF and MbnS.
[[reaper's mark] - why would I want a hex that recharges in 15s rather than one which recharges in 5? plus its redundant e-management.
[[wail of doom] - can we really expect heroes to use this at the right time?
[[caretaker's charge] - even less damage and redundant e-management.
[[clamor of souls] - again, less damage and e-management.
[[destructive was glaive]/[[Grasping Was Kuurong] - do not want heroes running into the frontline.
[[offering of spirit]/[[signet of spirits] - redundant emanagement.
[[weapon of fury] - no physicals.
[[grenth's balance] - if my hero's health is low enough for him to use this, I'm doing it wrong.
So, I get a fast recharging hex to fuel discord which does at least a small amount of damage on target and ends with another slightly larger amount of damage upon death. Without having to invest in a 4th attribute.
Now you go.
It does cause damage. I know, I know, blah blah HM high armour,cold damage blah, but the damage is there, deal with it.
It also allows for AoE damage on death, which is usually very fast (see aforementioned blah blah).
It is maxed out at 14, so I'm getting all I can from it.
Also, Igor, wtf? Long recharge? 5 seconds? It has SHORT recharge and a LONG duration. hex to fuel discord.
Lack of better alternatives.
[[defiant was xinrae] - why would I use this?
[[preservation] - random heals, long cast time, long recharge. This isn't HB.
[[Spirit light weapon] - MAYBE. But I already have splinter and xinrae being thrown around, its best not to confuse things. The heals are rather insignificant due to the redbarring of other heroes and the prots coming from the MM.
[[Tranquil Was Tanasen] - no, just no.
[[Vengeful Was Khanhei] - this isnt a solo farm build.
[[weapon of remedy] - already have FF and MbnS.
[[reaper's mark] - why would I want a hex that recharges in 15s rather than one which recharges in 5? plus its redundant e-management.
[[wail of doom] - can we really expect heroes to use this at the right time?
[[caretaker's charge] - even less damage and redundant e-management.
[[clamor of souls] - again, less damage and e-management.
[[destructive was glaive]/[[Grasping Was Kuurong] - do not want heroes running into the frontline.
[[offering of spirit]/[[signet of spirits] - redundant emanagement.
[[weapon of fury] - no physicals.
[[grenth's balance] - if my hero's health is low enough for him to use this, I'm doing it wrong.
So, I get a fast recharging hex to fuel discord which does at least a small amount of damage on target and ends with another slightly larger amount of damage upon death. Without having to invest in a 4th attribute.
Now you go.
distilledwill
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Originally Posted by Daesu
Some suggestions:
1. Your condition handling is reliant on 5th necro with Foul Feast and MB&S. If that necro happens to chalk up DP and dies, then conditions are unchecked. I much rather have Recovery than Blood song.
2. Rather than having so many hexes, and conditions, you may want to add more protection spells like shield of absorption.
3. No weapon of warding?
Yeah, I have been considering replacing bloodsong with recovery - you make a good point about the reliance on the 5th necro. I will change that.
WoW I always find rather clunky, but it is useful. I think I will replace AR on the last necro, as we rarely have people up front and its just more elemental damage.
There is a lot of healing and a fair amount of prot in there, but if it needed a bit more I would replace the signet on the second MM with Shield of Absorption. I know its a lifesaver.
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