Guild Wars forever ?

Buster

Buster

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Elona

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What other types of games would you like Arenanet to make ? Guild Wars has been great and we are all eagerly awaiting Guild Wars 2 but eventually there has to be a time for something new, right ?

JR

JR

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Whenever the Guild Wars brand stops being a marketable concept.

Shadowspawn X

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Guild Wars is the only game I will ever follow unless there is some earth shattering technological breakthrough that makes the entire online gaming industry as we know it obsolete.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

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Since they like epoch spanning with their sequels, they can just set GW3 several millenia into the future with spaceships and lightsabers if they really wanted to do something different. Every MMO will have "guilds" so this can work fine.

However I'd love to see them or someone else do a PvP-focused RPG outside of the MMO concept. Without unlocks there's no reason for a server to track character/account status, so this could be a solid LAN/Peer-peer/3rd party server game, with special tournaments held on official servers.

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Why more? If a tale is nice and big, you keep reading it. When it ends, you look for something else, but if you liked the tale, you'll go back as soon as new stories of that world appear.

That's why there are fantastic sagas with over 30 years.

Dorny

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It's best if ANet stick to GW, and keep working with it. Why end a winning formula? And why do lots of games with average success, instead of one huge game with lots of success?

snaek

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hey i know...how bout a competitive pvp rpg game?

Buster

Buster

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

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I would like to see them do a sci-fi rpg or a rts. Unless the devs really love Guild Wars that much I would think they would want to be open to new ideas.

eagleblade

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Originally Posted by Dorny View Post
It's best if ANet stick to GW, and keep working with it. Why end a winning formula? And why do lots of games with average success, instead of one huge game with lots of success?
i agree they are screwing up big time. for example they don't care about maintaining their gw1 servers today i got a 5,206 ping. what make a-net so sure that gw2 will be a success when gw1 is going down the tubes. losing more players day by day cause of the poor maintenance. plus a-net hasn't even thought about if the gw1 servers degrade so badly that the HOM is going to be useless for all those titles to be transferred over to gw2. man don't they sound like winners. lol

eagleblade

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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if i was to try any new game coming out soon it would be star wars the old republic
i'd play that long before I'd consider playing gw2 unless they fix gw1's servers.

BenjZee

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Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

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I just hope they make it open sourced if they planned on killing it off...
plus vekk needs a spin-off

mazza558

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Originally Posted by eagleblade View Post
i agree they are screwing up big time. for example they don't care about maintaining their gw1 servers today i got a 5,206 ping. what make a-net so sure that gw2 will be a success when gw1 is going down the tubes. losing more players day by day cause of the poor maintenance. plus a-net hasn't even thought about if the gw1 servers degrade so badly that the HOM is going to be useless for all those titles to be transferred over to gw2. man don't they sound like winners. lol
Erm, no. It's your ISP or Network Settings. I thought it was ANET too until I realised stuff was interfering with my wireless network.

Why do people always assume it's an external problem?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Originally Posted by Buster View Post
What other types of games would you like Arenanet to make ?
I'd like other companies to make games using the GW template. IE same game mechanics and graphics engine, but different settings and classes and such. I would absolutely love to see a 40k game using the Guild Wars game template.

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Guild Wars has been great and we are all eagerly awaiting Guild Wars 2
No. It's moving away from GW original aspects and becoming something disgustingly WoW-like.

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Originally Posted by Buster View Post
but eventually there has to be a time for something new, right?
If it is not broken, do not fix it. BioWare knows this. TTLG knew this. Blizzard knows this. ArenaNet does not seem to grasp the idea that maybe, just maybe, they already had a perfect target audience with GW1 and that trying to compete with WoW is not going to end well.

eagleblade

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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Originally Posted by mazza558 View Post
Erm, no. It's your ISP or Network Settings. I thought it was ANET too until I realised stuff was interfering with my wireless network.

Why do people always assume it's an external problem?
believe what you want to believe. regina made it pretty clear about that they have no intentions of fixing the server problems they are just going to wait for gw2 to come out, and by that time it will be too late.

my internet runs fine till i play they game on their servers in game FYI

if you want proof just look at your dot in the middle of game play how it changes from green to orange to red to orange. thats their servers if you wave the mouse over the dot you'll see their game server ip not your own so theirs your proof. FYI

stop trying to be a know it all and realize the situation. that erm no garbage is just rude so yes you'll get a rude answer.

Lishy

Lishy

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Why end a working formula? For now, it'd be best to stay with GW until ANET expands. After that, their dialogue writers and amazing 3d modelers could probably cook up an amazing offline rpg.

Jessica Pariah

Jessica Pariah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Warrior's Isle

LF PvP/GvG Guild.

@eagleblade:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping

Trust me, that dot is there to show you how long it takes for one packet to reach the ArenaNet servers. This actually CAN be a problem on your side, and no offence, but, I think it is, as you fail to understand standard TCP/IP.

Just because it shows you their IP address it doesn't mean it's their fault you're having bad ping / lag. That IP address is the one that is being pinged, the Ping: <value> ms (milliseconds) part is the part that shows you the latency between you and the server.

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stop trying to be a know it all and realize the situation. that erm no garbage is just rude so yes you'll get a rude answer.
I suggest you do the exact same thing, for you have made yourself look ridiculous.

JR

JR

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Originally Posted by eagleblade View Post
how many anet brownosers do we have on here anyways lol
Great way to counter a reasonable argument backed up by evidence.

immortius

immortius

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Originally Posted by eagleblade View Post
if you want proof just look at your dot in the middle of game play how it changes from green to orange to red to orange. thats their servers if you wave the mouse over the dot you'll see their game server ip not your own so theirs your proof. FYI
Yes, because it is the ping to that server and back. That doesn't say anything about where the latency is coming from. Use something like ping plotter or good old tracert and come back with real proof.

riktw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

netherlands

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they are buzy enough finishing GW2, lets do 1 thing at a time.
if GW2 fails, make something else, if it gets +5 million people buying it, make GW3

Obrien Xp

Obrien Xp

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how many anet brown nosers do we have on here anyways lol

This looks like a guru grade anti-anet fail.

FAIL

Dakka Dakka

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Originally Posted by snaek View Post
hey i know...how bout a competitive pvp rpg game?
this made me chuckle

on topic: ANET branching out to new games? sure, but carefully as one wrong step can kill the company.

Gun Pierson

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I think GW2 may get old pretty fast if it's somewhat the same as GW. When GW1 hit the scene, it was more or less a new experience for many gamers who were looking for something else than the classic FPS, RTS or RPG game.

Personnaly I would bet on games like Diablo3 with some new features, great graphics and most of all good gameplay. MMORPG's are past their glory days imo or at least for the time being till the next gen mmo's arrive in about 5-10 years.

You see Blizzard coming out with an rts (stracraft 2) and a RPG (Diablo3) first too even though you hear rumours about the development of a secret mmo. I think they know it that it won't be easy to beat their own success of wow.

As for Anet, a competitive PVP RPG is out of the question. The segment is too small to sustain the business model, you can read that between the lines in that recent interview O'Brian gave. MMoRPG sells if it has PvE content, RTS and FPS are more fit for competitive setups.

The gaming industry is a bit like fashion, they use elements from the past but in a new and modern version. And so the cycle continues. MMORPG's were the trend last years. I see modern high tech. hack and slash rts/rpg's to become the new flavor for a couple of years.

agrios

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Id love to see one hi-tech scenario game with GW mechanics....but as far as I can see...GW is on my desktop..

Robbeh The Mad

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Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleblade View Post
i agree they are screwing up big time. for example they don't care about maintaining their gw1 servers today i got a 5,206 ping. what make a-net so sure that gw2 will be a success when gw1 is going down the tubes. losing more players day by day cause of the poor maintenance. plus a-net hasn't even thought about if the gw1 servers degrade so badly that the HOM is going to be useless for all those titles to be transferred over to gw2. man don't they sound like winners. lol

More the sky is falling doom and gloom. Maybe you should check your ISP and your virtual ram before you toss in the towel champ. If it really is THAT bad why are you still playing?

Antares Ascending

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

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Originally Posted by eagleblade View Post
believe what you want to believe. regina made it pretty clear about that they have no intentions of fixing the server problems they are just going to wait for gw2 to come out, and by that time it will be too late.

my internet runs fine till i play they game on their servers in game FYI

if you want proof just look at your dot in the middle of game play how it changes from green to orange to red to orange. thats their servers if you wave the mouse over the dot you'll see their game server ip not your own so theirs your proof. FYI

stop trying to be a know it all and realize the situation. that erm no garbage is just rude so yes you'll get a rude answer.
My internet runs fine playing GW. Take an honest look at some of the above facts and suggestions. It may well be your server, a few bad connectors will do it to. btw. It may also be a connection in your home...each little oops contributes to a cumulative effect on dowload/upload times.

The suggestions here are not brown nosers, just folks stating facts. There does seem to be a 'blame Arenanet' mentality tho.

SecretLove

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

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GJ on totally stealing the idea of my topic.

Gwmaster

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Clan Wars: nose of the south

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
Why more? If a tale is nice and big, you keep reading it. When it ends, you look for something else, but if you liked the tale, you'll go back as soon as new stories of that world appear.

That's why there are fantastic sagas with over 30 years.

GW2 don't have a tale to tell anymore ..... its not going to have a monolithic storyline. it will be Quest Arc.

its going to be a collection of short stories. and it better be good, or else its going to become like any other mmorpg.

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

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What is this Guild Wars 2 you speak of?

BenjZee

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That's cold Firebat :0
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