Uhm ....small equipment pack ? huh?

bokken

bokken

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Small equipment pack - supposedly will hold 5 items for each character - both armor and weapons customised for this character - - well i just paid 2500 gp to the merchant - I got an icon in my pack, but when I clicked on it all it did was disapear - where did it go? did I just loose 2500 gp? a little help please??

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

you cant see it using F9. but its there if you press I (inventory).

bokken

bokken

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ty Bluefeather

yes indeed it is ther if I press "I"

Also I was allowed to buy anonter small eqipment pack with the same character but when i clicked on it nothing happened - so it seems you only can add one to each character

Halimahdance

Halimahdance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

USA

The Silly Nannies

E/Me

Hey, I was under the impression that we got the equipment pack for free...silly me! Over 2k is a bit ridiculous in my opinion...also I thought we'd get free one pane in the storage chest and then have to buy more if we wanted. Disappointing update for me.

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

2.5k is overpriced

10-slot bags only cost 600g (100g for bag and 500g for rune of holding).

so, i guess it is really overpriced

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Halimahdance View Post
Hey, I was under the impression that we got the equipment pack for free...silly me! Over 2k is a bit ridiculous in my opinion...also I thought we'd get free one pane in the storage chest and then have to buy more if we wanted. Disappointing update for me.
You do get one pane for free. Go on the actual GW site and it'll tell you how to get it.

Good luck getting the NCSoft site to connect, though. I've been trying for a half hour with no luck.

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PM me for JACT Invite

Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

yea the site for the extra pane totally doesn't connect right now. probably because everyone and his brother and sister are trying to load the page right now...

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

got mine XP
12char

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

2.5k overpriced...pshhhhh
If anything, we need MORE gold sinks in this game. Don't complain about 2.5k being too much for you.

a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/R

not every one has 2.5 k even though its like nothing. to some of you its like spending a dime, where to alot of people its spending all they have, personally i have over 200k so it will be like spending a dime

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

If 2.5k is spending all they have, they probably don't have enough equipment to need the damned bag.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

What I wanna know is where are the ones that are other various sizes?

tinytop69

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin View Post
If 2.5k is spending all they have, they probably don't have enough equipment to need the damned bag.
thank you. logic is fun!

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

The bigger packs are z-coin only I think. Grind the zaishen missions like 100 times for ONE 20 slot bag.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin View Post
If 2.5k is spending all they have, they probably don't have enough equipment to need the damned bag.
Precisely........If anyone complains about a lousy 2.5k being overpriced they got more a lot more pressing issues.

LOL 2.5k...pfffffff

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by I pwnd U View Post
What I wanna know is where are the ones that are other various sizes?
From what I've heard you can get them for 15 gold zaishen coins. There are quests available that give copper coins as a reward (for doing quests already in the game like killing Kanaxai or Blood Washes Blood), but doing the math 50 copper = 1 silver, 10 silver = 1 gold, you need 7500 copper coins to get the 20-slot equipment bad and yet only get 70 copper coins for turning in a quest.

I really like the content that A.Net added into the game in this update, the problem: I really HATE how it was implimented. WAY too much grind or real money involved in getting it.

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

Yeah if you want the 10-20 slot bags you'll have to grind 7500 copper z-coins for ONE bag (yeah, that's more grind than I would like.) Hopefully there'll be more gold reward quests that'll let us get the 20 slot bags easier but atm even 2.5k for one bag is pretty stupid.

Obrien Xp

Obrien Xp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Canada

The First Dragon Slayers [FDS]

The really big ones are really expensive (how many times to kill kanaxai )

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

I'm hoping for there being silver and gold coin missions...like Gate of Madness HM.

Honestly I'd say Urgoz and Kanaxai are at least silver, Duncan the Black is a gold, Fendi Nin would be silver given the run that can be done, but gold for average players in groups.

Etc etc etc.

IrishX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

W/

ZCoins won't be hard to come by if you aren't terrible. The GvG reward with all the bonuses is 350 copper coins. One bonus is winning an AT match, which is easy as hell during Euro times, and the other is winning 3 matches, which is so easy it's silly.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

So PvP'ers have an easier time getting PvE storage rewards. Goodness. Who ever thought that would ever make sense.

Wait...

Halimahdance

Halimahdance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

USA

The Silly Nannies

E/Me

My only complaint with the 2.5K is that the GuildWars site said "for a nominal fee of gold at various merchants across all campaigns". Nominal is usually defined as slight, or very small compared to usual expectations. A couple hundred gold would have been fine.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

2.5k is cheap, I'd pay much more for things like this. I value 1 inventory slot at around ~5k gold - and I'd pay that if it was possible to buy slots for gold (100k per pane).

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

W/

in game money aint a problem for me i dont know why people think 2.5k is expensive, i would pay 100 plat or 1000 plat if it was possible, anything but real money

people who think 2.5k is expensive it can be made in 2 runs of raptor farm which is like 3 minutes

thig

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

S??by, Denmark

A Few Good Men

Mo/

Yeah the zcoin costs for the bags are crazy, but the gold ammount for the small bag are acceptable.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Quote:
10, 15, and 20-slot bags are available in exchange for Zaishen Coins at a Zaishen Rewards NPC in Great Temple of Balthazar.
Just go farm coins and get em free

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

Wow it is going to take another lifetime to get those 20 slot bags is there not a faster way?

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by Pleikki View Post
Just go farm coins and get em free
7500 copper coins for a 20 slot bag.

50ish coins per HM Mission run once per 24 hours = 150 days of running a HM mission every day to get a single 20 slot bag......yeah

leoknight

leoknight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic View Post
Wow it is going to take another lifetime to get those 20 slot bags is there not a faster way?
Yeah, I'll say, the only somewhat reasonable to get is the light equipment pack (10 slot) which require 1 Zaishen gold coin (500 Z-copper coin). Obviously either it will takes an awful amount of time to get 20 equipment pack or someone with no life which probably get one in next 2-3 days.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by leoknight View Post
Yeah, I'll say, the only somewhat reasonable to get is the light equipment pack (10 slot) which require 1 Zaishen gold coin (500 Z-copper coin).
Much easier to get, true, but not and option really. Here is problem:

Why essentially "waste" 1 gold going on pack that you are gonna trade in for 15/20 slot pack in future (if you have use for equipment pack, of course). Ditto with 5 gold coins for 15 slot bag.

I wonder, are bags tradeable between accounts? It should take about month for them to appear on market...

Bill Clinton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
I wonder, are bags tradeable between accounts? It should take about month for them to appear on market...

This is a good point.
Honeslty, I hope they are tradeable. Doing this it opens up more options for players who want the 20 slot bag and also opens up options for people who want to make a lot of money.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
I wonder, are bags tradeable between accounts? It should take about month for them to appear on market...
Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?
I would assume that people who go into bag-selling business would also get some for their own use first (however, they might want to sell their first ones to get advantage of market).

And besides, Procuring 30+ characters that are HM ready and able to port to any mission/outpost is quite big task.

glacialphoenix

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

Quote:
50ish coins per HM Mission run once per 24 hours = 150 days of running a HM mission every day to get a single 20 slot bag......yeah
There's also the bounty quests, actually, and those who PvP will also probably do the PvP challenge. You're thinking in terms of slowest possible rate, and you're not factoring in the fact that the zoins are supposed to be tradable within your account. It will still be a grind, yes, but it's not going to be nearly as long as you think for some people. =\ Even if you don't like one bounty, there'll be a new one the next day.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Considering that its pure storage just for weapons and armor, 5 is more then enough for most characters. You probably wont have multiple sets of armor on the character you created just yesterday or anything. The best equipment packs are also buyable from other players.

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?
If your brain does not melt from doing the same quest over and over and over

raptors and kegs is bad enough during event weekends

Red-Tide

Red-Tide

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Edmonton, Canada

[Liar]

Mo/

ugh, now I have to grind for days on end to get the extra storage? I just finished 6 months of uber grind getting my Vanquisher title. I am so done with grind.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?
so run the mission 35 times, once on each character, assuming that they have the area that is chosen as the quest for that day (example today's blood washes blood, don't have eotn, then tough you lose). At a minimum of 1 hour to just run around and do the quest you'd need 35 hours in the day so that isn't going to happen. Even if you could do the quests every day in 30 min you'd still need 17 and a half hours of uninterrupted play every single day for a week. Also not likely.

10 slot bag = 1 gold = 500 copper = 10 days (1.5 weeks roughly)
15 slot bag = 5 gold = 2,500 copper = 50 days (1.75 months roughly)
20 slot bag = 15 gold = 7,500 copper = 150 days (5 months roughly)

the above is assuming 50ish copper per day for 1 mission in HM (20 in NM and +50 bonus in HM was todays)

1 hour per mission (rough again as some will do it faster, others will do it slower). Perhaps you could get 4 missions done a night if you did nothing else netting you 200 coins. That would cut down the time to get one bag by 4 of course.

200 coins a day @ 4 hours of "Farming Missions" as fast as you can:

10 slot bag = 2.5 days
15 slot bag = 12.5 days (2 weeks roughly)
20 slot bag = 37.5 days (1 month roughly)

For a casual player that means doing nothing else for over a month but spend 4 hours every day farming missions for coins....including your weekends. Miss a night due to work/school/whatever? Add those days onto your total. Can only play on weekends? Good luck in getting a 20 slot before 2010 hehehe.

edited for a bit more clarity

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by glacialphoenix View Post
There's also the bounty quests, actually, and those who PvP will also probably do the PvP challenge. You're thinking in terms of slowest possible rate, and you're not factoring in the fact that the zoins are supposed to be tradable within your account. It will still be a grind, yes, but it's not going to be nearly as long as you think for some people. =\ Even if you don't like one bounty, there'll be a new one the next day.
That is of course very true as long as the bounties are not all Elite areas, which not everyone has access to or wants to go to. If for instance a bounty was on Byzzr Wingmender I'd say that one would be a shoe in...probably wouldn't be worth many points but would only take someone with factions done (kurzik side) a mere 4 min to do.

They're an uncounted factor till we see what they are over a week as a very small sample rate.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meth View Post
Considering that its pure storage just for weapons and armor, 5 is more then enough for most characters. You probably wont have multiple sets of armor on the character you created just yesterday or anything. The best equipment packs are also buyable from other players.
I have to disagree there. Most every character I have has at least 2 sets of armor for specific occasions, some for looks and at least half a dozen weapons again for specific builds and things. I can easily use 20 slots on most of these characters.