To start off this thread isn't of the intention of having a massive rant about anything, i personally am quite impressed when i thought it was utter bs that they weren't gonna do an update.
So, clearly these prices for the items are a bit steep. I mean £9 for character name change, £6 for each makeover thing is a bit ridiculous. I can buy 2 copies of the game for £15 alone.
Personally I think the prices should effectively be half what they are. £3 each makeovers + £5 name change perhaps, then i'd consider buying one.
I was wondering what people's opinions were as to what would be acceptable pricing since most i know are pretty annoyed by it? What pricing would you consider it at?
(Keep the "it shouldn't be RL money" to other threads please, ideally i agree but the end of the day this is something a lot of players have wanted and so it's hardly surprising they're not going to miss this chance for money.)
Some kind of poll would probably be nice if some magicpower person can do that, i guess in $ as that seems to be the currency for the majority of this forum.
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fowlero
Arduin
If anyone is that bothered about the face/name/hair or whatever of their character, you shouldn't whine about a few dollars for the ability to change this.
Seriously, it's only a couple of dollars.
And the I mean £9 for character name change, £6 for each makeover thing is a bit ridiculous. I can buy 2 copies of the game for £15 alone. is getting old fast.
For 15 pounds you won't get a 4 years old character with everything unlocked, Obsidian Armor and GWAMM.
Life isn't free.
Seriously, it's only a couple of dollars.
And the I mean £9 for character name change, £6 for each makeover thing is a bit ridiculous. I can buy 2 copies of the game for £15 alone. is getting old fast.
For 15 pounds you won't get a 4 years old character with everything unlocked, Obsidian Armor and GWAMM.
Life isn't free.
upier
I am only interested in buying content in a boxed version.
fowlero
True life isn't free, but i disagree that this is just a few dollars. £6 is actually a fair whack for something to just sprinkle on the game.
You're right for those really bothered about it it isn't that much, but my question was what would people be willing to spend on this stuff?
I believe if they reduce the prices they could entice a lot more people into buying it, i would if it were cheaper but i'm not bothered enough to at that price so anet won't get my money. If it were cheaper, then they would get some of my money.
I'm not arguing about the not getting the 4 yr old character etc etc that's really not the point of this thread.
You're right for those really bothered about it it isn't that much, but my question was what would people be willing to spend on this stuff?
I believe if they reduce the prices they could entice a lot more people into buying it, i would if it were cheaper but i'm not bothered enough to at that price so anet won't get my money. If it were cheaper, then they would get some of my money.
I'm not arguing about the not getting the 4 yr old character etc etc that's really not the point of this thread.
Rocky Raccoon
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So, clearly these prices for the items are a bit steep. I mean £9 for character name change, £6 for each makeover thing is a bit ridiculous. I can buy 2 copies of the game for £15 alone.
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Riot Narita
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Originally Posted by fowlero
clearly these prices for the items are a bit steep
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Iuris
I'm worried about the price.
I am personally happy to pay it, I have the money and GW is one of the things where I don't really look at the money.
However, I fear that the prices are approximately twice as high as I would "feel" the correct price to be. Therefore, OTHERS may not feel it's enough, meaning trouble for the model.
I am personally happy to pay it, I have the money and GW is one of the things where I don't really look at the money.
However, I fear that the prices are approximately twice as high as I would "feel" the correct price to be. Therefore, OTHERS may not feel it's enough, meaning trouble for the model.
fowlero
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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
A simple name change is not so simple. If you have been playing for 3 to 4 years every bit of data associated with that name has to be re-associated with the new name. It took someones time to program the software to do and test this, therefore the pricing. It is a vanity offer and as such I agree with the charge.
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I mean new characters with new names assigned to new armors are made all the time. Maybe my ignorance but is it really that extensive to change it?
This post is a bit o/t though.
lewis91
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"clearly"? No, just your opinion. My opinion is, these prices are peanuts.
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I think they're abit steep. I'd pay if they were slightly more resonable. £2 for name, £4 for appearence, yaknow something along those lines.
Shayne Hawke
If everyone had their way, the price would be lower, maybe even free, maybe even purchasable with in-game items.
The truth is that not everyone needs these.
The truth is that not everyone needs these.
Targren
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The truth is that not everyone needs these.
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I pwnd U
I have to agree that the prices are a bit too steep, BUT people will still pay them. It's not like they are asking for your firstborn child. If you don't want to pay for them then don't, but others will. Since GW is a free-to-play game they need to make money somehow, especially in this economy.
NEOgeo
these prices are insane relative to previouse store items , and relative to the price of the game and each of the expansions , why would i pay £6 for a storage plane when i can get a WHOLE NEW BASE ACCOUNT for not much more and have loads more storage i just need to dual log wich is extremly easy once u have it setup , IMO they would make even more profit if they halfed their prices , cause personally if they were all half i would have bought all storage planes + a sexchange but im buying nothing from them now ;o and this has no relation whatsoever to my disposable income , its about value, and there is no value here
Bit Player
Seems like a reasonable pricing scale given that these features weren't available when I purchased the game. I think it'd be more enticing if the name change feature was rolled into the extreme makeover package.
The name change pricing alone does seem steep; but I'm guessing that part of the reason for the pricing is to discourage scammers from a quick, easy, and *cheap* identity switch.
Hobson's choice I suppose...
The name change pricing alone does seem steep; but I'm guessing that part of the reason for the pricing is to discourage scammers from a quick, easy, and *cheap* identity switch.
Hobson's choice I suppose...
mage767
They should have just charged $15 for the ENTIRE update - which would limit each character in each account to 3 makeovers, extreme or normal. This includes ALL the storage panes as well, and you get the free storage pane if you purchased during April 23-29. I'm sure a lot of people who have been pleased with this plan rather than the obnoxious one they got in place now.
If you plan on buying everything they have released, that's easily over $100. Well, anet, guess what? I'm not dumb - my wisdom tells me not to support a company who scams its own customers.
You know Microsoft/Bungie has an intersting model for their Halo 3 map packs - you can buy them when they are released for like $14.99 and then they release them free after 3 months anyway - which explains why they are doing so well. They have a great marketing department in addition to an addicting game, which is why Halo 3 is strong even today. And they release REAL playable content.
If you plan on buying everything they have released, that's easily over $100. Well, anet, guess what? I'm not dumb - my wisdom tells me not to support a company who scams its own customers.
You know Microsoft/Bungie has an intersting model for their Halo 3 map packs - you can buy them when they are released for like $14.99 and then they release them free after 3 months anyway - which explains why they are doing so well. They have a great marketing department in addition to an addicting game, which is why Halo 3 is strong even today. And they release REAL playable content.
Mervil
Yes, the prices are too steep. I will not be purchasing any upgrades because the prices are simply too high. Those of you who think $10.00 is peanuts for appearance change/storage panel, can you all send me $10.00? It IS only peanuts afterall...
Fitz Rinley
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Originally Posted by fowlero
To start off this thread isn't of the intention of having a massive rant about anything, i personally am quite impressed when i thought it was utter bs that they weren't gonna do an update.
So, clearly these prices for the items are a bit steep. I mean £9 for character name change, £6 for each makeover thing is a bit ridiculous. I can buy 2 copies of the game for £15 alone. Personally I think the prices should effectively be half what they are. £3 each makeovers + £5 name change perhaps, then i'd consider buying one. I was wondering what people's opinions were as to what would be acceptable pricing since most i know are pretty annoyed by it? What pricing would you consider it at? |
I misunderstood the idea of a makeover. I thought each $10 was going to purchase 5 changes that could be executed across the account: 1 change of hair, 1 change of height, 1 change of face, another 1 change of face, and 1 change of skin, per se. I was delighted to find that the $20. I spent covered every change I wanted to make across 7 of my 10 main characters. I have one extreme makeover I want to purchase in the future.
I would have liked more access to faces and hair styles across professions, but that is unimportant. I was able to reachieve the same basic characters I started with in Prophecies on characters I had remade in other campaigns. That was very nice.
I also realize, that aside from NC West needing seed money and maintenance for the new dedicated server space (for 3 million players, and potentially more storage for 30,000,000 characters), they need funds to pay the guys who worked on it. (Pretty sure they want to eat and pay bills too.)
Aldric
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Originally Posted by NEOgeo
these prices are insane relative to previouse store items , and relative to the price of the game and each of the expansions , why would i pay £6 for a storage plane when i can get a WHOLE NEW BASE ACCOUNT for not much more and have loads more storage i just need to dual log wich is extremly easy once u have it setup , IMO they would make even more profit if they halfed their prices , cause personally if they were all half i would have bought all storage planes + a sexchange but im buying nothing from them now ;o and this has no relation whatsoever to my disposable income , its about value, and there is no value here
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As for making more profit if they charged less. Hmm i think maybe, just maybe, that a mutlinational company and its bean counters would have considered the various cost/takeup scenarios before deciding where to put the price for each item. Could be wrong but companies usually have a bash at that....
FengShuiDove
Oh noes, things we didn't expect to get at all cost too much!
You didn't have it before, you now have the option to pay for it and have it, if you choose, you can go on not having it just like before.
People have said numerous times on THESE FORUMS that they would pay for a face change/makeover. Now you have the option. Gogogogogo.
You didn't have it before, you now have the option to pay for it and have it, if you choose, you can go on not having it just like before.
People have said numerous times on THESE FORUMS that they would pay for a face change/makeover. Now you have the option. Gogogogogo.
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by mage767
They should have just charged $15 for the ENTIRE update - which would limit each character in each account to 3 makeovers, extreme or normal. This includes ALL the storage panes as well, and you get the free storage pane if you purchased during April 23-29. I'm sure a lot of people who have been pleased with this plan rather than the obnoxious one they got in place now.
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May be that's what we'll have in 3 months, like the Halo 3 model you mention.
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
May be that's what we'll have in 3 months
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If you didn't find something you liked about this update, wait for the next one.
Targren
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Not entirely sure if this is on topic, but keep in mind they're planning larger-scale updates at 4 month intervals CONTINUALLY from this point forward.
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circuscalamity
I don't understand how people can still play the PvE, dare I call it that, in this game anymore. We finally see a new content addition, and we have to pay for half of it. We don't need storage, we need something to do besides make an assassin to run around tanking everything. How did an assassin wind up being the best tank in the game? I know people well say "If you don't like it, don't play." Well, I don't play anymore. The only reason I am here posting is because I used to enjoy the game. Dungeons - one of the best ideas implemented in Guild Wars - could have been something that you actually needed to pull a group of skilled players together to accomplish. What are they instead? A quick run through. Arena Net is so afraid to nerf the clearly over powered skills that ruin the game in order to keep the people that use them online. For what? This 2-8 player "MMO" had serious potential. Not enough PLAYABLE content was added as it progressed though. If you're all for grinding away at the titles that do absolutely nothing but make people read more, go for it. "A level cap of 20 will test players' skill, not hours played." Bull. I know I'm probably just barking in the dark here, but I'm sure there are some people out there that may read this, and agree with me. Guild Wars 2 looks promising, and for it to take this long, I'd expect nothing less, but the ideas, hours, time and money going into it should have been used to get it right the first time. Each campaign would have served better as an expansion to one decent MMO.
pumpkin pie
I am only interested if they mark my purchase as ALREADY PURCHASED once I paid for it and can use said purchase anytime as long as GW server is alive.
Yawgmoth
All the new stuff is VASTLY overpriced, if they want to make money they should at least make it worth it. Keep it fair - get more buyers.
For example if they want to SELL a Storage Update for $$$ they should make it really BIG. Something that would really make the difference. Selling mere 20 slots that will fill in a matter of days for $10 is a slap in the face. Pathetic.
Instead they should do something like an Epic Storage Upgrade - 1 package for $10-20 that provides a truly Massive amount of space that would be clearly worth the money. 4 xunlai tabs would be a minimum and it could include specialized storage (like for minipets/dyes/tomes) aswell. I'd pay $20 for that.
And talking about selling playable content - I only want to buy full real products - boxed expansions - that's one of the reasons I've chosen GW over all other games. It's easily the best and most fair business model, giving the best value per $ spent, with no lame tricks involved.
For example if they want to SELL a Storage Update for $$$ they should make it really BIG. Something that would really make the difference. Selling mere 20 slots that will fill in a matter of days for $10 is a slap in the face. Pathetic.
Instead they should do something like an Epic Storage Upgrade - 1 package for $10-20 that provides a truly Massive amount of space that would be clearly worth the money. 4 xunlai tabs would be a minimum and it could include specialized storage (like for minipets/dyes/tomes) aswell. I'd pay $20 for that.
And talking about selling playable content - I only want to buy full real products - boxed expansions - that's one of the reasons I've chosen GW over all other games. It's easily the best and most fair business model, giving the best value per $ spent, with no lame tricks involved.
IKNOW
I don't agree with any of this micro-transaction baloney but, I do believe name changing option really needed to be charged for and with a hefty price to combat abuse.
Sarevok Thordin
It's a mere service that is optional.
The price is to keep the game servers rolling along, and PlayNC know you have alot of long term characters you won't ever want to delete but just want to change something on.
Really, I don't see what is wrong with them wanting to generate revenue to keep the server going.
The price is to keep the game servers rolling along, and PlayNC know you have alot of long term characters you won't ever want to delete but just want to change something on.
Really, I don't see what is wrong with them wanting to generate revenue to keep the server going.
Rocky Raccoon
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I am only interested in buying content in a boxed version.
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HayesA
I bought a make over, and an extra storage pane. I'm planning on buying more next month, too. I see this as really fantastic way to add some length and customization to a player's game. I support this new payment system, too; paying on the ncsoft store with paypal is a HUGE plus for me. So i'm quite content, and, frankly, i'm laughing at the jerks who are bitching so much about this. As they always do, so i'm not surprised.
We got one extra storage pane for free, and a equipment pack for free (well, in-game gold. who cant offord 2,500 gold after all this time? comon.) Nothing else is mandatory for playing the game, and no one is forcing the player to buy it. But it's there for those of us that want it, and will pay for it. Yeah the prices are a little steep, but they are fair in a sense it's their game, on their servers, and that requires upkeep.
We got one extra storage pane for free, and a equipment pack for free (well, in-game gold. who cant offord 2,500 gold after all this time? comon.) Nothing else is mandatory for playing the game, and no one is forcing the player to buy it. But it's there for those of us that want it, and will pay for it. Yeah the prices are a little steep, but they are fair in a sense it's their game, on their servers, and that requires upkeep.
Jaroh Magus
I do think the pricing is a bit out of wack overall. I would be more comfortable for $20 bucks for all panes unlocked or some such thing. $10 per seems a bit over the top. The other things...? Meh. I know that I don't need or want a makeover or name change. It would have been nice if both were included in 1 price (name and makeover for 1 cost).
Overall though, I would have liked more ingame options to unlock things. I can unlock all skills or pets by physically doing it in game...or I can pay money to do it now. I think having an option to gain the panes in some other way besides money would have been nice. Or a way to increase the already existing bag slots, so that our individual characters could carry more as well.
I'm just hoping that micro-transactions isn't their plan for Guild Wars 2...I don't want this game split between the haves and the have-nots (see Hellgate: London).
Overall though, I would have liked more ingame options to unlock things. I can unlock all skills or pets by physically doing it in game...or I can pay money to do it now. I think having an option to gain the panes in some other way besides money would have been nice. Or a way to increase the already existing bag slots, so that our individual characters could carry more as well.
I'm just hoping that micro-transactions isn't their plan for Guild Wars 2...I don't want this game split between the haves and the have-nots (see Hellgate: London).
Chico
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A simple name change is not so simple. If you have been playing for 3 to 4 years every bit of data associated with that name has to be re-associated with the new name. It took someones time to program the software to do and test this, therefore the pricing. It is a vanity offer and as such I agree with the charge.
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ShadowbaneX
as it is, I'd love to change the hair on some of my characters, but that's about it and I'm not paying $10 US (I'm Canadian so it's even more up here) just to change the hair once and that's it. Now, if I could pay that amount and then have the ability to pick up to 5 characters to change their hair whenever I wanted, however many times I wanted, then, yes, I'd probably pay for that. I could see a limit of say only changing it once a month, but that's about it.
KamikazeChicken
I think they should have at least thrown in single make-over credits for zcoins or as prizes from the traveler. I guess it could have worked like I've heard WoW time credits(?) do?
fb2000
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I personally have no experience with coding and so don't know if it really is difficult or not to do. However i'd be interested to know if it actually is that difficult?
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var x = "charname"; (half assed example, real coders dont comment please
Then you just put the "x" where you want it ;x.
ogre_jd
Actually, it *does* save your name on many things - customized items and dedicated minipets, to use the most obvious examples. A generic 'var x = "charname"' would likely end up, for example, having weapons customized for whoever happens to be holding it at the moment, not the character it was customized for.
Feminist Terrorist
Anet screwed up my char's face a couple years ago. I've been living with a vapid mouth breather ever since. Now I have to pay $10 to change their mistake? Doesn't seem right to me.
Seraphim Angel
I could care less how much it is. Anet has already made thousands of dollars on these upgrades. I made my character with the intention of NEVER being able to change it. So its how I like it. As for paying for extra storage I currently have 8 characters (never bought another one for 10 dollars but would if I wanted one). With the free storage upgrade I currently have 62 open slots for PLENTY of itmes. I ve been playing for over 2 years and have over a dozen titles on my main. I play on a regular basis. You people need to stop saving everything you pick up then you would not have to worry about paying for extra storage! Anet is just taking advantage of all the pack rats 
Meh maybe they are a little overpriced but people will pay for it and until thier sales drops they won't budge with the prices so deal with it. No one is holding a gun to your head saying you must buy it!
Also if everyone here who says they dont have enough storage, post your inventory I bet we can all tell you to get rid of over half of it
Also if everyone here who says they dont have enough storage, post your inventory I bet we can all tell you to get rid of over half of it
Janlijm
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I think they should have at least thrown in single make-over credits for zcoins or as prizes from the traveler. I guess it could have worked like I've heard WoW time credits(?) do?
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Anet screwed up my char's face a couple years ago. I've been living with a vapid mouth breather ever since. Now I have to pay $10 to change their mistake? Doesn't seem right to me.
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ToriSama
I don't mind the pricing either. I see it as a new expansion pack that I paid for. A-Net needs to make money somehow, and the way they did it making things optional and not game-breaking if you choose not to buy it is awesome!
Myself, I bought the extra storage panes (mainly cos I'm lazy) and like being able to have all my stuff at hand without trying to remember which mule is holding which item/s. I also bought the make-over pack. I love that you can choose hair, etc., from different campaigns. Makes alot more variety for our toons.
For those of us who have had characters for a long time and getting sick of the name, looks, what have you... it's nice to have those options.
Way to go, A-Net!!
Myself, I bought the extra storage panes (mainly cos I'm lazy) and like being able to have all my stuff at hand without trying to remember which mule is holding which item/s. I also bought the make-over pack. I love that you can choose hair, etc., from different campaigns. Makes alot more variety for our toons.
For those of us who have had characters for a long time and getting sick of the name, looks, what have you... it's nice to have those options.
Way to go, A-Net!!
Buster
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I don't understand how people can still play the PvE, dare I call it that, in this game anymore. We finally see a new content addition, and we have to pay for half of it. We don't need storage, we need something to do besides make an assassin to run around tanking everything. How did an assassin wind up being the best tank in the game? I know people well say "If you don't like it, don't play." Well, I don't play anymore. The only reason I am here posting is because I used to enjoy the game. Dungeons - one of the best ideas implemented in Guild Wars - could have been something that you actually needed to pull a group of skilled players together to accomplish. What are they instead? A quick run through. Arena Net is so afraid to nerf the clearly over powered skills that ruin the game in order to keep the people that use them online. For what? This 2-8 player "MMO" had serious potential. Not enough PLAYABLE content was added as it progressed though. If you're all for grinding away at the titles that do absolutely nothing but make people read more, go for it. "A level cap of 20 will test players' skill, not hours played." Bull. I know I'm probably just barking in the dark here, but I'm sure there are some people out there that may read this, and agree with me. Guild Wars 2 looks promising, and for it to take this long, I'd expect nothing less, but the ideas, hours, time and money going into it should have been used to get it right the first time. Each campaign would have served better as an expansion to one decent MMO.
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