Extra Tabs are Visible

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Yes theyre visible but I can't use them lolz

Anyone else feels like he/she is limited because he/she refuses to pay?

Lyphen

Lyphen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

No, I don't feel limited. I'm working towards an equipment bag, which, along with the free tab, will solve all my storage problems. Even the 2.5K bags saved me a whole tab across characters.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Temptation and greed are satan's way into your pocket!

Lothlorian Sassun

Lothlorian Sassun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Dragonestos

N/

I have 1 more storage panel for free. I have 20 more slots than I had Wednesday so i feel more free not limited.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

For this project you will need:

*Paper
*Scissors
*Scotch tape
*Measuring tape or ruler
*Pencil or pen

1. Take your ruler or measuring tape and place it on your screen and record the measurements of the visible storage tabs you don't have/want.
2. Use the measurements to draw a rectangle of the same size on your paper, and cut it out with your scissors.
3. Take your strip of paper and place it on the screen blocking the storage tabs. Affix your paper strip to your screen with scotch tape.
4. Repeat steps 1-3 if you move your storage window on screen or alter your resolution.

Enjoy!

Personally, I have no trouble ignoring those tabs because I don't need them. They're great advertising though.

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
For this project you will need:

*Paper
*Scissors
*Scotch tape
*Measuring tape or ruler
*Pencil or pen

1. Take your ruler or measuring tape and place it on your screen and record the measurements of the visible storage tabs you don't have/want.
2. Use the measurements to draw a rectangle of the same size on your paper, and cut it out with your scissors.
3. Take your strip of paper and place it on the screen blocking the storage tabs. Affix your paper strip to your screen with scotch tape.
4. Repeat steps 1-3 if you move your storage window on screen or alter your resolution.

Enjoy!

wow this is a great idea! i even colored mine to add a little detail.

Apoc

Apoc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal, Canada

Quebekers Alliance [QKA]

W/

Nope, not feeling limited at all. The small equipment pack is enough for now and I'm currently working on getting the heavy one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc View Post
Temptation and greed are satan's way into your pocket!
"Satan"...

lewis91

lewis91

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Wales

Order of the Azurelight[OA]

E/

Yeh i feel as if they're mocking me, and now i need to buy them >.<

Jessica Pariah

Jessica Pariah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Warrior's Isle

LF PvP/GvG Guild.

How do you get the free storage pane anyway? Can't find any information about it!

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

http://www.guildwars.com/products/ex...orage_pane.php

Guildwars.com is generally a good place to start searching.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Actually i agree that I would rather have them taken off. It seems a little pessimistic like saying that without paying the money we won't get the full experience - in regards to ANET saying, if we pay $10 for storage we get an extra tab...

Dragonire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Canada

Dragons of Irythia [DOI]

Mo/

I'm actually wondering if the design choice was like this because they didn't want to have empty space in place of the second row of tabs. Perhaps it's a little difficult to dynamically expand the storage window?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I'm annoyed because normally when swapping tabs I simply slide my mouse horizontally. Now whenever I go to material storage, it throws me off because I click a blanked-out tab.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

It's probably just easier from a UI design point of view, not any conscious decision from Anet to subliminally advertise to you.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

The disabled tabs are just a marketing ploy to get you feeling that your account is not complete. Its a cheap and cheesey thing to do on Anets part.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I personally DON'T want to see them when they're not available. Their ploy for temtping me outta my money isn't gonna work here.

Archress Shayleigh

Archress Shayleigh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2009

Guild Hall

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
I personally DON'T want to see them when they're not available. Their ploy for temtping me outta my money isn't gonna work here.
That's sooo true... I fully agree.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Let's see.....I can buy a character slot, which comes with a 20-slot backpack and can easily get 2x 10-slot bags and a 5-slot pouch, for $9.99 or I can get one 20-slot tab for the same price? Great business sense, that anet. I suppose a fool and his money are soon parted though, right?

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dansamy View Post
Let's see.....I can buy a character slot, which comes with a 20-slot backpack and can easily get 2x 10-slot bags and a 5-slot pouch, for $9.99 or I can get one 20-slot tab for the same price? Great business sense, that anet. I suppose a fool and his money are soon parted though, right?
True dat. All the perks of added carrying storage, plus what you get in beating all 4 campaigns again far outweigh what the store has to offer and it's sad you can run around these boards to check how many people got suckered into buying this.

EDIT: Well take a look at the fools in this thread... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10369504

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I FEEL DEPRIVED!!!

or not...

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
True dat. All the perks of added carrying storage, plus what you get in beating all 4 campaigns again far outweigh what the store has to offer and it's sad you can run around these boards to check how many people got suckered into buying this.

EDIT: Well take a look at the fools in this thread... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10369504
Nah, I don't bother to play the game again on storage toons. They are all big, ugly WaMo PvP toons so that I don't accidentally delete them.

Mr.Kotte

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
For this project you will need:

*Paper
*Scissors
*Scotch tape
*Measuring tape or ruler
*Pencil or pen

1. Take your ruler or measuring tape and place it on your screen and record the measurements of the visible storage tabs you don't have/want.
2. Use the measurements to draw a rectangle of the same size on your paper, and cut it out with your scissors.
3. Take your strip of paper and place it on the screen blocking the storage tabs. Affix your paper strip to your screen with scotch tape.
4. Repeat steps 1-3 if you move your storage window on screen or alter your resolution.

Enjoy!

Personally, I have no trouble ignoring those tabs because I don't need them. They're great advertising though.
I love you in a completly hetrosexual way.

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

It's not the feeling of being limited, it's just annoying and plain wrong. Why not just give every account 20 grayed out character slots and advertise that they can only be used for 10$ each....

Elephantaliste

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

adblockplus.or

Seeing things you can't unlock IG is annoying...
If I ever decide to buy a new tab, I will be glad to see it in my xunlay chest... but not before.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephantaliste View Post
Seeing things you can't unlock IG is annoying...
If I ever decide to buy a new tab, I will be glad to see it in my xunlay chest... but not before.
But this is exactly how other games do it and having them there and unaccessible make the UI easier to keep clean and sorted, rather than add them as you buy them

and yeah, its ingame advertising... I had a guildie ask m last night why he couldn't access them and when I told him he could buy them in the ingame store, he went and bought them all and the freebie as he's a farmer for the guild

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai View Post
But this is exactly how other games do it and having them there and unaccessible make the UI easier to keep clean and sorted, rather than add them as you buy them

and yeah, its ingame advertising... I had a guildie ask m last night why he couldn't access them and when I told him he could buy them in the ingame store, he went and bought them all and the freebie as he's a farmer for the guild
Have you ever seen ingame advertising in world of warcraft?

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lourens View Post
Have you ever seen ingame advertising in world of warcraft?
Name changes, server transfers, etc... but as its a pay to play game, not a great example

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

lol, it's really annoying that they are there when not able to use. but it is understandable that they left them there, always tempting u to buy em ;-)

Elephantaliste

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

adblockplus.or

even if free 2 play game you hardly see grayed functionnalities u can buy... (at least for those i saw).
And GW is a pay to play too, even if you pay once only for the access to servers.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephantaliste View Post
even if free 2 play game you hardly see grayed functionnalities u can buy... (at least for those i saw).
And GW is a pay to play too, even if you pay once only for the access to servers.
Don't ever play Atlantica Online. Trust me on this one.

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

At least when you accidently click on them they do not take you to the NCSOFT store... note to ANET Don't you dare!!!

Jaded _Knight

Jaded _Knight

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc View Post
Temptation and greed are satan's way into your pocket!
Commando + Hole in my pocket - good times!

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

I guess it is a nag to show players that there is more to buy. The UI would look better with non-active tabs not shown.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

It amazes me how people on this forum find things to complain about. The visible but unusable slots have no effect on game play and are not seen by anyone but the you.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Proff View Post
It's not the feeling of being limited, it's just annoying and plain wrong. Why not just give every account 20 grayed out character slots and advertise that they can only be used for 10$ each....
So they don't have to create 5 different UIs for the storage window, one for people with no extra tabs, one for people with one, etc.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger View Post
It amazes me how people on this forum find things to complain about. The visible but unusable slots have no effect on game play and are not seen by anyone but the you.

They're seen by me, that's the point. It has an effect on gameplay because I CAN SEE THEM.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
They're seen by me, that's the point. It has an effect on gameplay because I CAN SEE THEM.
Exactly how does it effect your gameplay? Are you trying to use one to beat a mandragor to death and it won't work?

Elephantaliste

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

adblockplus.or

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
So they don't have to create 5 different UIs for the storage window, one for people with no extra tabs, one for people with one, etc.
technically, displaying/hiding (or not adding at all) is hardly different from graying or not a tab on client side...

Vyral

Vyral

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/

Quote:
Let's see.....I can buy a character slot, which comes with a 20-slot backpack and can easily get 2x 10-slot bags and a 5-slot pouch, for $9.99 or I can get one 20-slot tab for the same price? Great business sense, that anet. I suppose a fool and his money are soon parted though, right?
Or... I can go to Amazon.com and buy Prophecies Game of the Year Edition or Factions for $15. I get 4 storage characters, all of which I can fully outfit with bags / equipment bags, the regular 4 pane Xunlai storage box, another whole material storage pane, plus an additional 4th birthday pane...

20 inventory + 5 belt pouch + 10 bag + 10 bag + 5 equipment = 50 x 4 toons = 200 + 80 xunlai storage + 20 4th bday storage.

Or I can buy a storage pane for $10.

300 storage slots (and more material storage) for $15 versus 20 for $10.

You make the call.

Improvavel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyral View Post
Or... I can go to Amazon.com and buy Prophecies Game of the Year Edition or Factions for $15. I get 4 storage characters, all of which I can fully outfit with bags / equipment bags, the regular 4 pane Xunlai storage box, another whole material storage pane, plus an additional 4th birthday pane...

20 inventory + 5 belt pouch + 10 bag + 10 bag + 5 equipment = 50 x 4 toons = 200 + 80 xunlai storage + 20 4th bday storage.

Or I can buy a storage pane for $10.

300 storage slots (and more material storage) for $15 versus 20 for $10.

You make the call.
For some reason when I read posts like these I get the impression people are trying to convince themselves (its probably just my impression).

The panes aren't about mule type storage. It's about stuff you want stored there and accessed without having to change characters and/or launch a second copy of GW.

But sincerely, with the 5 (the old 4 + the free one) panes now available, I can pretty much get all the stuff I want there - Dyes, tomes, some mini pets, the shared between heroes shields and spears(spear mods are pricey and not that common)/weapons while I don't get all stuff I need, and I still have some space to store some of the unused PvE armors of the character I'm currently playing to maximize space for drops). There isn't much more I want to keep in there. All the rest can easily be stuffed in mules.

Edit: You don't get 4 panes of storage with 1 campaign. Mistake I've seen in loads of similar posts. Its 1 pane plus 1 pane per chapter. So an account with only 1 campaign has 2 tabs or 40 slots and not the 80, plus the free one. If you need raw space it still makes sense buying another account over panes. If what you want is quality space, panes become more attractive.