Rollerbeetle Discussion Thread

IattackU

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

NJ, America

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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Well I'm kind of surprised that there hasn't been a rollerbeetle thread posted on here yet. Do you guys seriously hate it that much?

Anyways, if you are one of the people that actually do like rollerbeetle and you want to discuss it, I'm making this for discussion of it.

Personally right now I'm finding this lag killing, I'm also working on trying to improve my 479k score with a better ending. Oh and I finally got my r3 Gamer title yesterday. Anyways, how has your rollerbeetle weekend been so far?

*If you have come here to say lolrollerbeetle, don't bother, your post will be reported for spam if you have nothing good to add to the discussion.*

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

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It's because RBR and how to post high scores in it has been discussed to death.

The only thing that would bring about a real discussion over it now would be a change to the arena.

Skco

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

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lolrollerbeetle

Rollerbeetle is frustrating. Lag kills me. I'm in 1st place half the damn match and a lag spike hits and im suddenly 30sec behind everyone. (exaggerating ofc)
Its all about timing really. Save your Hardens. Use speed boosts around corners, etc.

IattackU

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Join Date: May 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
It's because RBR and how to post high scores in it has been discussed to death.

The only thing that would bring about a real discussion over it now would be a change to the arena.
I understand it has been discussed to death. I've read most of the discussions.
Honestly I wish ArenaNet would fix up the lag a bit in Rollerbeetle, it would be easier to get top times without the rubberbanding.

Also, whats an event without a bit of rollerbeetle discussion.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Why play when you can AFK the Rings?!

lewis91

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i wish the rollerbeetle racing was available all year round, i love it. But yeh the lag is horrific, hate going round a sharp corner thinking your first, then you snap back and your stuck on the corner and infact last.

Shayne Hawke

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Quote:
Originally Posted by IattackU View Post
Honestly I wish ArenaNet would fix up the lag a bit in Rollerbeetle, it would be easier to get top times without the rubberbanding.
Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
Why play when you can AFK the Rings?!
Hence, why I would like to address this problem.

IattackU

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Join Date: May 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Hence, why I would like to address this problem.
Well I'm glad you posted that here. Thank you.

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

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Originally Posted by upier View Post
Why play when you can AFK the Rings?!
Thumbs up.
+Why play when you can DA.
Or heck, even cupcake farming is preferable to the lag fest "oh he's impossibly far in front let's blast him" that beetles is.

DA >>>>>>> lolrollerbeetles

LeoX

LeoX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Guildless Since 2005???

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It's not lolrollerbeetles it's lollerbeetles.

I've not been since a year or so, are they still giving out mini greased lightnings? I'm not sure if they even gave them out last Canthan New Year?

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueNovember View Post
Thumbs up.
+Why play when you can DA.
Or heck, even cupcake farming is preferable to the lag fest "oh he's impossibly far in front let's blast him" that beetles is.

DA >>>>>>> lolrollerbeetles
Beetles racing is a lot more enjoyable to me.. So don't post opinions as if they apply to every one .

I managed to get on the monthly 100, but I kinda doubt I'll stay there.. Had quite a few very good-looking races yesterday, only to have some edges take that away from me.. That, and annoying whining noobs chaining knockdowns + lunges at me from a radar away.. But for the first time racing (never did the previous bday celebrations, as a matter of fact I missed all the rest ) I am enjoying it . Got ~1400 points towards the title as well

People in GW have become a lot more retardedly annoying than before

PS. How come little jack isnt there? does he show up after the event or what?

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

I get my fair share of rubberbanding and lag in RB but I keep playing anyway. Better then Dragon arena which is full of sync groups and rude people.

Hengis

Hengis

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Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

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Originally Posted by fb2000 View Post
PS. How come little jack isnt there? does he show up after the event or what?
There have never been prizes awarded for the birthday event. They are only awarded at the Canthan New Year.

I know this to my cost as the only time I kept a top 100 place until the end was on the 2nd birthday celebrations and then we found out afterwards that there were no prizes.

On the positive side, I got Rank 4 gamer this time, and have rather a lot of victory tokens LOL.

Had lots of fun races too and raced several of the top racers.

Yuris and Martin are almost uncatchable even with no powerups and Ewok is fun to race against.

I just dont have the dexterity to strafe around the corners LOL but managed a fairly respectable 475K personal best this time so far.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone View Post
There have never been prizes awarded for the birthday event. They are only awarded at the Canthan New Year.
Lolwut? :I
damn :x. Why did I lose that much time on it then . I mean its kinda fun, but not THAT fun

Shouldve paid more attention I guess


jeez

Yuris Sayuri

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

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I guess there would be more discussion if ppl were be able to enjoy Rollerbeetle.
Unfortunately, Anet makes it impossible to play with their fkn laggs and stucks.

I still dont get why they added the AFK-Rings, cmon nobody's playing a PC-game to go outdoor!? Sad, ppl're only interested in titles.

In my opinion this event was one of the worst. In addition ive got quite bad luck this time

And guys.... plz learn to use ram as a speedboost - retarded scrubs make it even more annoyable. If u wanna kill ppl play RA.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Rollerbettle is my 3rd favorite way to get gamer points (snowball arena being first and costume brawl being 2nd).
Other then doing it to occasionally grind for more skillz points its not that fun (too much luck and kinda frustrating when people use items to attack you when you are in 6th place rather then attack the guys in the lead).

Mr Wolfbane

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

SoDD

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Ive never had any serious lagg problems in a Rollerbeetle race,
just the problem with it is that it takes much more time to get gamer pts,
and no im not like always last or anything i ussually win anyway, but xD, its just that dragon arena is much faster.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuris Sayuri View Post
And guys.... plz learn to use ram as a speedboost - retarded scrubs make it even more annoyable. If u wanna kill ppl play RA.
I've often had to save this as a viable way for getting back into the race after someone stopped me dead in my tracks, but yeah, if I get ahead of someone to the point I know I can use it to stay ahead, I will snuff his *** on the spot!

But the real gripe I have is the number of times you get stopped in the race. Why couldn't there be a more fair rule for just slowing down competitors so it gives everyone a fairer advantage? Too much MARIO KART FTL!

Tyrole

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuris Sayuri View Post
And guys.... plz learn to use ram as a speedboost - retarded scrubs make it even more annoyable. If u wanna kill ppl play RA.
I actually quit playing during this event because of that. After 20ish hours of playing, it was just too frustrating trying to get a top time (and knowing I had several opportunities to do so), just to get kded by ram while the guy who used it was still in the middle of a srb or have the last place guy lightning me 3 times.

People aren't racing the game to get top scores; they're doing it to kill others and get their precious 7 victory tokens.


Anet should split the game into 2 modes - one where the number of 1st place finishes is rewarded and one where the top times are rewarded.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrole View Post
I actually quit playing during this event because of that. After 20ish hours of playing, it was just too frustrating trying to get a top time (and knowing I had several opportunities to do so), just to get kded by ram while the guy who used it was still in the middle of a srb or have the last place guy lightning me 3 times.

People aren't racing the game to get top scores; they're doing it to kill others and get their precious 7 victory tokens.


Anet should split the game into 2 modes - one where the number of 1st place finishes is rewarded and one where the top times are rewarded.
No, they should keep it like that. IF you play carefully you shouldnt be knocked that too often, and if you are even about to get a top100 time you most probably will be out of reach anyhow..

Sure, its annoying to have pricks chain distracting lunges and knockdowns at you from a screen away, just when your srb has ran out and you dont manage to hit the echoed srb in time - so it expires, on a perfect looking run. Had it happen to me a few times..

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Can someone PM me the fastest way to do the last part? (Everything from the loop)

I got my start + everything up there pretty much down. (I reach the gate at 17.5 seconds average, with a best of 16.5/17 ish)

Biggest bottleneck for me is the loop and the last part. I can't seem to figure out those last 3 gates. I've read that these top people manage to keep a 50-60%+ RRPM at all times, but I always drop to 20% ish straight after the second-last gate. (Right before the huge hill upwards)

Someone please PM/post a picture of how you do the last part? (Everything past the loop) (Someone with past top 100 experience please... -I need something that works xD)

Best score up till now is 469.7K this time, and about 473K last canthan new year...

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrole View Post
I actually quit playing during this event because of that. After 20ish hours of playing, it was just too frustrating trying to get a top time (and knowing I had several opportunities to do so), just to get kded by ram while the guy who used it was still in the middle of a srb or have the last place guy lightning me 3 times.

People aren't racing the game to get top scores; they're doing it to kill others and get their precious 7 victory tokens.


Anet should split the game into 2 modes - one where the number of 1st place finishes is rewarded and one where the top times are rewarded.
Umm... no

People who use rollerbettle blast on the guy in the lead is actually SMART (because they want to make sure they get to the finish before the 30 seconds are up). Its when people are stupid and attack each other and let one guy get way ahead that top 100 times are made. Is it fair? No. It is somewhat random.
But I can't believe people are complaing about a multiplayer racing event having their times ruined because other players wanted to win too. How dare they.

Lain Akazukin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

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The lag is not worse for me than earlier events, there are periods of time when playing is hard because of a 300+ ping but most of the time it has been alright to me. KD also doesn't annoy me as much as others, only between the start and the first checkpoint you have to just pray someone doesn't KD you with ram. But I'm fine with that actually, what really bothers me is the constant rollbacks because of physical contact with other beetles. This is not relevant when you're way ahead of the rest, but it is especially at the start when it's crowded with beetles. Would have been nice if beetles could just be like 'ghosts' to each other, like in Trackmania for example where you can not bump and crash into others and can just phase through them.

bhavv

bhavv

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Join Date: Sep 2006

I dont care about event games anymore after getting my Numchuck Skillz.

Thats just my favorite title name out of the whole skillz title track, and Im keeping it for the rest of GW.

I did want a mini beetle, but I already have a full miniature monument so dont care now.

I just need 2 more ascended armors to fill up my armor monument now.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed u man View Post
Can someone PM me the fastest way to do the last part? (Everything from the loop)

I got my start + everything up there pretty much down. (I reach the gate at 17.5 seconds average, with a best of 16.5/17 ish)

Biggest bottleneck for me is the loop and the last part. I can't seem to figure out those last 3 gates. I've read that these top people manage to keep a 50-60%+ RRPM at all times, but I always drop to 20% ish straight after the second-last gate. (Right before the huge hill upwards)

Someone please PM/post a picture of how you do the last part? (Everything past the loop) (Someone with past top 100 experience please... -I need something that works xD)

Best score up till now is 469.7K this time, and about 473K last canthan new year...
Past the loop? you mean the 2 bridges making a spiral? To pass this with full RPMs you need an SRB imo.. Hit it right after the checkpoint, dash while going around the beach, ram just before the 6th checkpoint. Watch your rpms, hit dash again, ram just on the hill before the 7th checkpoint. You should always be rolling with at least 95% full RPMs this way

If you have no SRB its harder I think . I try keep my dash to use right after the bridges, helps pass thru the beach faster . Echoing dash also helps ofc


Thats my observations at least

LONGA

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It will actually worth to discuss if there are new maps for roller beetle.Right now its a game of luck.Everyone just known the track.

eonblue

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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I am curious how are the greased lightnings distributed?

Tyrole

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

I was also wondering about this. Do they just appear in your inventory or do you have to get them from some npc in the game?

Thanks for the help!

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrole View Post
I was also wondering about this. Do they just appear in your inventory or do you have to get them from some npc in the game?

Thanks for the help!
As I said previously in this thread, there are no rollerbeetle prizes for the birthday event.

Rollerbeetle mini pets are only handed out at the Canthan New year event.

I've now managed two top 100 times. One at this event where I finished around 90th on the table, and once at the second birthday event where I finished about 40th, but I have never managed a top 100 during the Canthan New Year, so no mini for me <sulk>

On the plus side, I made Rank 4 gamer this event, and got about 2500 victory tokens and 5 zaishen keys.

I also had some great races and raced against most of the top players over the course of the event.

One day that mini beetle will be mine LOL

LeoX

LeoX

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Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Guildless Since 2005???

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
I just need 2 more ascended armors to fill up my armor monument now.
Ohh, but maybe you get something cool from the mini beetle being displayed in HoM in GW2 xD?
That's my motivation to buy pets anyway. Plus I just like to collect them.

Actually, if we just received rewards because we have "25 pets dedicated" rather than "mini greased lightning dedicated", then it would be pretty much pointless to dedicate all those rare pets, apart from seeing it in your HoM again. But that's something we won't find out till later and thus people will keep dedicating.

On Topic: I'm not motivated to roller-beetle if there's no mini prize, even though I never make it in top 100.

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuris Sayuri View Post
And guys.... plz learn to use ram as a speedboost - retarded scrubs make it even more annoyable. If u wanna kill ppl play RA.
QFT.

There seems to be a general mindset in the arena that if you have a KD, or if you're close to another person and have Ram, you'd better spam that button with fingers of fury. That won't be any way to guarantee a win, it won't get you the fastest times, and it won't make very many racers happy to see you, making you somewhat of a target for their hate every time you come to face them.

My strategy: Play like you're going for a record, every time. Eventually you'll get the chance. If that can't be done, it's usually the racer that gets the best start that will win, because many racers will just give up on attacking the person in first, or the person in front will be able to get power-ups ahead of time enough to not need to worry so much about other racers. Don't show your whole hand; save KDs and Lunges for around the last couple checkpoints when you see an opening and your opponent may not expect anything.

Mister-Magic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrole View Post
I was also wondering about this. Do they just appear in your inventory or do you have to get them from some npc in the game?

Thanks for the help!
You have to speak to the NPC, then he will ask you if you want your prize. Answer "yes"n and the npc will give you the Greased Lightning.

~ewok

Fril Estelin

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Join Date: Jan 2007

London

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
it's usually the racer that gets the best start that will win
Not true at all. I've been 25% of the time in the last spot before the first gate, due to kd'd, even when trying to drive clear of the other players, and would still finish first half of the time (rough estimate of course). The fact is that a ram or dash used at the wrong spot during each part of the map will slow you down considerably, so you'll quickly loose your advantage (unless you're targetting the same player, which is the most stupid and annoying thing to do...). KD stops you for .5s (?) but doesn't remove your RRPMs (not completely?)

But I completely agree with you on playing for racing. Keep calm despite all the "kill-players" slowing you down and eventually the "race-player" gets a good score. (I wish I would have had more time to try this week )

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed u man View Post
Biggest bottleneck for me is the loop and the last part. I can't seem to figure out those last 3 gates. I've read that these top people manage to keep a 50-60%+ RRPM at all times, but I always drop to 20% ish straight after the second-last gate. (Right before the huge hill upwards)
If you're failing the spiral and beach, you failed earlier in the run. If you're doing things right, and you got the right powerups, you should be 100% RRPM entering the gate before the spiral.

For a top time, you should be 100% RRPM or very near for the entire run. Only exceptions are before the first gate and on the beach when you use Dash; at those times you should be 75% or so.