Account Ban; Payment Fraud?

Trail unit

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

brotherhood of the skull[bots]

N/Mo

Hey,
my account was banned 2 days ago for payment fraud.
I don't have a clue to why this happened, i had just purchased 2 skill packs
off the GW ingame store using a visa 100$ gift card with no other purchases on it.

Everything was added to my account and after about 30min of playing i got disconnected, and upon trying to log back in i got a message saying.

"Account Terminated for payment fraud, this action is permanent. Code=045"



Does anyone have a clue as to why this happened and what i can do to fix it?

Elephantaliste

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

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contact support, there is nothing we can do.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Yeah, contact support for ANet AS WELL as the NCSoft store support I'm sure you simply punched in the wrong # some wheres along the line and the card was rejected but the systems check of the card went though AFTER the purchase.

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

While I agree with Elephant I am having a problem finding anything in the legal section that states your account will be banned for non payment or if the card fails. I did find this:

" If you purchase the Campaign and/or Additional Features online using , without limitation, a credit card, SMS, paysafecard or ELV we will automatically charge you through your chosen payment method for the applicable new Campaign and/or Additional Features purchases, plus any applicable taxes we are required to collect, where you authorize us to do so. All new Campaign and Additional Features purchases are payable in advance. YOU ARE FULLY LIABLE FOR ALL CHARGES TO YOUR ACCOUNT. You represent to NC Interactive that you are the authorized account holder or an authorized user of the chosen method of payment used to pay for a new Campaign and/or Additional Features purchase. You agree to promptly notify NC Interactive of any changes to your account number, its expiration date and/or your billing address, and you agree to promptly notify NC Interactive if your account expires or is cancelled for any reason."


Unless you are not the auth account holder? Or maybe it is thier way to notify you that you have a payment issue and cannot access your account until it is cleared up. Since they did not get the money or it failed to process you cannot access whatever you purchased until you get it straightened out. I would bet that once they get the money your account will be OK. I try not to use those kind of cards online it creates too many problems.

Trail unit

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

brotherhood of the skull[bots]

N/Mo

Alright well i just called and they should be getting back to me about that in an email within 24 hours =\ soo i guess we'll see.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

More than likely, it is a little thing we like to call "HuMaN eRrOr."

Support will help you work it out. You also might want to check with the company regarding your Visa gift card.

refer

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

I heard that accounts are never deleted when banned, just made impossible to access. Not sure if that is true, but if it is then nothing will have been lost and this "permanent" ban isn't so permanent after all (if they can flip the switch one way, why not back again?). *crosses fingers*

alluring athena

alluring athena

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheodenKing View Post
More than likely, it is a little thing we like to call "HuMaN eRrOr."

Support will help you work it out. You also might want to check with the company regarding your Visa gift card.
I did see something in the NCSoft support section about being very careful when using gift cards to make purchases. Checking with the vendor to make 100% sure of the terms etc.

Hopefully support will sort this issue out in short order
*fingers crossed*

Trail unit

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

brotherhood of the skull[bots]

N/Mo

alright thankyou ill be crossing my fingers as well

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

A friend of mine had this happen and was able to get it lifted. Just show em your online credit card receipt if they don't believe you. Keep contacting em.

Trail unit

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

brotherhood of the skull[bots]

N/Mo

account ban lifted, thankyou everyone

ne33us

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Athens, Greece

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trail unit View Post
account ban lifted, thankyou everyone
Just a question, if you ever come back on this thread, was your "visa gift card" "anonymous" ?
Some banks offer that possibility but online stores do have some issues about that "anonymity" feature.

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Happened to me as well today.

Is [email protected] the address to contact support for incidents like these?

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gill Halendt View Post
Happened to me as well today.

Is [email protected] the address to contact support for incidents like these?
Yes that is the right address but i think you would get better support if you go to www.guildwars.com/support and use the web support link.

CruelBetrayal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trail unit View Post
Hey,
my account was banned 2 days ago for payment fraud.
I don't have a clue to why this happened, i had just purchased 2 skill packs
off the GW ingame store using a visa 100$ gift card with no other purchases on it.

Everything was added to my account and after about 30min of playing i got disconnected, and upon trying to log back in i got a message saying.

"Account Terminated for payment fraud, this action is permanent. Code=045"



Does anyone have a clue as to why this happened and what i can do to fix it?
Did you contact [email protected] to lift your 'payment fraud' ban?
It happened to me this morning (probably happened last night but didn't find out
until this morning) and I have sent an e-mail to support and they still haven't
got back to me..

Robinek

Robinek

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Marked by [Fury]

Mo/

Hi,
today my two friends got terminated ban for payment fraud they bought: 2 storage slots, makeover and 2 slots for new charcters but they pay regular visa card. There is one strange thing, both account are linked to one account in NCsoft and this NCsoft accont is baned to.

Could someone tell me what we can do with this, I'll be very glad for your help.

ErinMaelranaidh

ErinMaelranaidh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

Account terminated a few hours ago. Same reason : payment fraud. So far, I found seven other cases on other forums.

Thanks NCSoft. Glad to see how they take care of their customers. Great job, really.

I sent a message to support. Wait and see, now.

Talania Vulcanclaw

Talania Vulcanclaw

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Good ol' England

Jinju Crew

A/W

This just happened to me too. After four years of being loyal to their game and purchasing plenty of stuff to add on my account ... This is how I get repaid?

refer

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

I've heard of this happening a lot. Seems Anet cant' handle their site correctly nor prepaid cards.

Tazmanius

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2009

R/Me

Seems to be happening to a few people..
Came back to GW recenly and uograded with new campaigns etc..(ok..they are new to me)

No problem..

Bought 2 extra storage panes and bonus mission pack...and a few days later get banned for payment fraud...
Hope the OP is the way it will be for all of us..really got back into GW and look forward to many hours adventuring..also just bought a second account from amazon....hmm

Bottom line..Issue appears to be something glitching at the online store..not any malicious intent by us customers..Let's just hope they restore our accounts asap..

Gillian Treehugger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

A Place Called (HOME)

Mo/E

It happened to my husbands account yesterday.

he purchased 2 storage panes 3 days ago.

checked with credit card and the payment was authorised so no reason for the ban.

looks like they have a problem with the store.

Be Warned buying stuff from the GW store is dangerous to your account.

Elephantaliste

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

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Lots of people experienced account ban for Payment fraud.
So their fraud detection system is making many false positive cases.
Most of time simply contacting their support resolved the issue.
I agree it is not pleasant.

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Still waiting for a reply from the support.

Finding a thread here was helpful. Knowing it's not an isolated case calmed me down a bit.

Whatever happens to my account, I did nothing wrong to cause its suspension, so I hope my ban will be lifted. Sure I won't be shopping on their store anytime soon.

Tazmanius

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2009

R/Me

Yes..this is an issue that they need to address quickly..
I think what is most worying is the fact that quite a few of us are still banned and thus missing out on entertainment we paid for..(Wonder who the defrauder would be seen as in this case?)

NCsoft or ANet or Both really need to rectify this,restore our accounts and also release some sort of statement about the problem so that others can be warned..

ErinMaelranaidh

ErinMaelranaidh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

Well, I can't deny it pisses me off to have my account terminated but the worst is to be treated as a defrauder. I used their online shop many times, they always got their money. ~~

I always pay my bills in time, never have debt of any kind... I feel insulted, in some way. -_-

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

My card is a prepaid Visa Electron promoted by the Italian National Mail Society.

Called them to know wether any problem occurred, and they told me the latest transition went fine, but debit is still "pending". So, basically, NCSoft is yet to pick my money, and they probably have a problem their side accessing purchasers' accounts.

I just wish their automated system wasn't that overeager in delivering suspensions, since it's obviously their fault and all of us were probably incorrectly banned for that.

Robinek

Robinek

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Marked by [Fury]

Mo/

We send mail to support yesterday, 1st they send it to europen support and now they send this mail from one ppl to other. They are plaing with us

Both my friend made some shoping earlier without any problems, and now they are terminated....

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

~ Retired ~

Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

E/

There is a thread in the Riverside concerning this: here

and even an answer from an NCSoft employee letting us know they are aware of the problem:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein View Post
Good Morning.

I have escalated this issue, and will get back to you as soon as I get an answer.

I apologize for any inconvenience this mess caused
Closing down this thread to keep things in one place.