Heroes Ascent quest... again?

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

Anyone else confused that we have another HA zaishen quest, only two days from the last one? They haven't done Fort Aspenwood yet, or even just reset so it goes back to GvG. I just find it strange that its already HA because we JUST had one.

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Also, just a side note... what else CAN they do for the PvP portion? They've covered every arena in the battle isles as well as AB and JQ. What I would REALLY like to see is one of the PvE-PvP arenas being the daily quest. Actually bringing players to the PvP place adjacent to Kamadan, or Ascalon Arena and the other ones. Although this would single out those who only own the PvP portion of the game, tough love to them. I find low-level PvP quite intresting because it's alot more difficult and there is more variety (current RA meta = anti-everything, All casters have some kind of block skill/stance, If your a hexer odds are the other team has PnH, if your a bsurge odds are the sin has assasins remedy, etc...). The nice part about the level 10-15 PvP is that your armor really comes into play, unlike PvP where you can just PvXwiki your build and your armor. Also, playing without elites creates a whole new challenege. No more Palm Strikers, no more WoH monks, no more WE or PR warrs, no Mel Shot. I would personally really enjoy them to create a Zaishen Challenge quest pertaining to these areas.

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Sum up of wall of text and such here:
Heroes Ascent again? 2 days ago we had it like omfgwtfgay.
part 2:
Low-level arena's ftw

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purpose of this thread: why they making us play tombz? and would you /sign a low-level arena quest.

Thats all folks!

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

All this means is that quest selection is random, albeit there is probably some failsafe against running the same quest 2 days in a row.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

I kinda like it. Now my toon has this ZQuest twice in her log, so I'll only have to win two matches for 2*9k faction.

Not that I ever will win 2 matches in HA, but you get the idea.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
I kinda like it. Now my toon has this ZQuest twice in her log, so I'll only have to win two matches for 2*9k faction.

Not that I ever will win 2 matches in HA, but you get the idea.
It' not too hard. Sooner or later you run into a team that doesn't use gimmicks and then you win.

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

There arent many pvp modes to choose from
pve missions and bosses, hundreds.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

PvP modes that can be cycled

HA
TA
RA
GvG
HB
AB
Aspen
Quarry

And if they are really looking for excuses, Zaishen Challenges.

There is AT LEAST ONE for each day of the week.

Eddie Frenzy Spam

Eddie Frenzy Spam

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Old N Dirty [ym]

W/E

Sorry but what?

18k Faction for 2 wins is FTW. I dunno why anyone would complain about that. Also there is only so many PvP quests that can be done and frankly i'm thankful for this. It means that better ones, i.e the proper pvp quests (HA, GvG, TA) come around faster and really the HA quest is a god send for HA, previously it was dying hard, now it's up to 6 districts at least 1 day every week. I don't even HA much anymore but it's still nice to see such a revitalization.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie the reaper View Post
Sorry but what?

18k Faction for 2 wins is FTW. I dunno why anyone would complain about that. Also there is only so many PvP quests that can be done and frankly i'm thankful for this. It means that better ones, i.e the proper pvp quests (HA, GvG, TA) come around faster and really the HA quest is a god send for HA, previously it was dying hard, now it's up to 6 districts at least 1 day every week. I don't even HA much anymore but it's still nice to see such a revitalization.
I think the point is here would be for it to cycle around all PvP modes so anyone can get the chance to access a PvP quest once in a while (and really, AB is even more accessible than RA)

prey monkie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

[OhNo] Mallyx and Friends

Mo/

u can do so much more with pvp? u can change the quests a lil bit, what im gonna say now is totally random. but objective: get a kill streak of 2, that kinda things, would be more fun than keep winning 15 matches in RA,

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

Well I might have to go and try out that HA after all. I'm sure the regulars there are ready for another newbie with a bad build

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

I'm planning on waiting for the RA challenge to come around, and get that one all my toons with the one they have now. I spend one evening finishing those, save up so there's 3x that quest, complete it, and I get tons of faction.

Now all that's left is to add something new and rare to the Zaishen Chest to bump up the price. Everlasting Summoning Stones Please!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
All this means is that quest selection is random, albeit there is probably some failsafe against running the same quest 2 days in a row.
Exactly.
When they added in the z-quests, they added in the data for probably several hundred different z-quests and have the system change it randomly by itself (rather then requiring a.net to change the quests manually each day, which would inevitably lead to the update being late some days).
Random means random, which means something can repeat before FA comes around.
And as Sarevok said, there are only so many PvP formats to go around.

Frankly, I like it. I had no interest in doing the HA quest before. But now that I was able to do 2 at once, I was all over it. I can't wait till the RA quest gets doubled up.

Edit: I agree they could come up with more original kind of quests for PvP. "Win a HA match without a monk primary on your team," etc. but I think the current system is fine for now (maybe they will add in more variation later)

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

I think it's a good idea. If people want to try and get involved in GvG/HA, there is a steeper learning curve, and having the quests repeat these more often may increase the number of guilds/alliances/players in general trying to improve in those areas. That, and double rewards.

I think it's good.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
I think it's a good idea. If people want to try and get involved in GvG/HA, there is a steeper learning curve, and having the quests repeat these more often may increase the number of guilds/alliances/players in general trying to improve in those areas. That, and double rewards.

I think it's good.
Can't complain about more people in GvG/Ha....

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

I was also expecting Aspenwood today. Oh well. Maybe I'll get around to complaining if we start to see streaks of arenas pop-up, or if a certain format doesn't come around for a while.

UnChosen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ya I was hoping for FA too...
I refuse to do HA, getting sick of being asked to flash my R8 title for every single group, having to wait for an hour fine tuning builds, then getting kicked the moment a person with an R9 and the same class comes along.

SniperF0x

SniperF0x

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

PvE has 2 quests, PvP has 1. If you have AB or a competetive mission again then it's like 3 PvE quests. But it's random, and daily. Just accept it.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

WOW!

9K is an absolute steal! Got it a few times even by being bad and playing with other bad players.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

Don't mind more HA. Should be a permanent HA quest and the daily pvp quest cycles through the other modes.

Low level arena's sound interesting, but how many people have characters that can enter? All my guys and gals are lvl20, and there's no way I'm deleting one just to do low level arena's for a day...

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by UnChosen View Post
Ya I was hoping for FA too...
I refuse to do HA, getting sick of being asked to flash my R8 title for every single group, having to wait for an hour fine tuning builds, then getting kicked the moment a person with an R9 and the same class comes along.
How'd you think I feel, I only got r3 because I couldn't stomach the elitism that goes on in there.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

Please more HA quests. Plenty of zaishen coins for doing barely anything.

Empress Amarox

Empress Amarox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

Above you.

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
I kinda like it. Now my toon has this ZQuest twice in her log, so I'll only have to win two matches for 2*9k faction.

Not that I ever will win 2 matches in HA, but you get the idea.
Wow, that's a good idea...

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Empress Amarox View Post
Wow, that's a good idea...
Yeah, I suspected that they would loop back the quest and you would be able to get 2 times the reward for the effort of 1 if you wait. I told you guys to do that a week ago!

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10369854

To all the nay sayers on my thread, lol.

Oink The Pig

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Kryta

Untimely Demise [Err了]

Yeah, double HA quests in people's logs have been quite the motivator for getting people who wouldn't otherwise want to HA to come play. Just the single quest was pretty good motivation for me to go take halls the other night.

I think it would help, though, if they removed the TA->HA unlock requirement if they really wanted to drive traffic to HA.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy View Post
Also, just a side note... what else CAN they do for the PvP portion? They've covered every arena in the battle isles as well as AB and JQ. What I would REALLY like to see is one of the PvE-PvP arenas being the daily quest. Actually bringing players to the PvP place adjacent to Kamadan, or Ascalon Arena and the other ones. Although this would single out those who only own the PvP portion of the game, tough love to them. I find low-level PvP quite intresting because it's alot more difficult and there is more variety (current RA meta = anti-everything, All casters have some kind of block skill/stance, If your a hexer odds are the other team has PnH, if your a bsurge odds are the sin has assasins remedy, etc...). The nice part about the level 10-15 PvP is that your armor really comes into play, unlike PvP where you can just PvXwiki your build and your armor. Also, playing without elites creates a whole new challenege. No more Palm Strikers, no more WoH monks, no more WE or PR warrs, no Mel Shot. I would personally really enjoy them to create a Zaishen Challenge quest pertaining to these areas.
I don't think we'll ever have a low-level arena quests because not many people actually have low-level characters and you can't roll a lvl 9 PvP for Ascalon Arena... so I'm guessing very few people would be care to see that quest.

As for HA two days in a row, I was surprised to see that too... there are 8 PvP modes, so I figured they would either cycle them in the same order (makes a nice schedule) or randomize it, but in such a way that you can't get the same one again until the rest of them have come up.

I guess it's just completely random.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

It's awesome. Getting fame hasn't ever been easier, stomping clueless pvers into the dirt making full fame runs with no skips ... yesssssssssssssssssssss.

Even in the downtime, it's so much fun in id1 listening to pvers complain about how they have no rank and how they hate pvpers, oh man this zaishen quest thing is so much fun, best idea ever in guild wars, i'm freaking loving it.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

WTB Random HA

You still have groups demanding you to have ">R9 + Vent or gtfo", so i still see little reason to even go near the place.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

It's random... yet another Guru QQ thread about something random.

And btw, HA ZQ is by far my most favorite so I'm full happy :]

Eddie Frenzy Spam

Eddie Frenzy Spam

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Old N Dirty [ym]

W/E

Yeye HA Zquest pretty much ownzzz

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by EPO Bot View Post
WTB Random HA

You still have groups demanding you to have ">R9 + Vent or gtfo", so i still see little reason to even go near the place.
On zquest days there are LOTS of random teams. Just learn a template and bring it, people take r0's and sometimes (:P) they can beat bad r9's.

Aztec Mijo

Aztec Mijo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[LaZy]

W/E

coulda sworn first one was hoh wins, ah well.

i thought they'd start making the combat quests challenge missions.

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

<3 HA quest
easy stacks of coins :]