Dealing with hex-heavy areas as a melee using h/h.

Just use survivors, radiant doesn't really help with energy management. 40 ish energy should be fine, really. Aegis won't be spammed.

i would just run a heal bar +
[Peace and Harmony] [Cure Hex] [Protective Spirit]
works in most area's.

from my experience with this game(vanquished everything twice) one of the best ways to counter hex heavy areas in pve is to have 1 or 2 hex removal spells,and just ignore the rest of them and focus on killing the mobs.Also a monk primary with[divert hexes],will burn their mana bar fast,and its also inefficient because u waste your elite and a hero slot for a monk instead of bringing more dmg,so focus on killing the mobs instead of removing hexes.I would advice to only bring a dedicated hex remover when doing an elite area like fow or doa with heroes ,than yes either bring a [peace and harmony] monk hybrid or a[divert hexes] necro(imo better than monk).For most areas[cure hex],[remove hex] would suffice,or u could also try[spotless mind].

Also imo one of the most annoying hexes that u can find is[suffering],because it can cover all the team,lots of necro mobs have it and heroes/hench waste their energy removing a -3 degen hex from u.

Lol. [peace and harmony] FTW. Drop the SS hero and get a monk with PnH.

Whilst I think Peace and Harmony is possibly the way forward, I just wanted to throw another suggestion out there, since everyone in here is throwing around Monk builds. Forgotton200 says he uses Necromancer teams a lot, so how about integrating more Hex Removal into the 3-necro setup?

[build prof=N/Me name="Necro/Mesmer" box Curses=12+1+1 Soul=10+1 Inspiration=8][Expel Hexes][Hex Eater Signet][Insidious Parasite][Mark of Pain][Enfeebling Blood][No Skill][Signet of Lost Souls][Resurrection Signet][/build]

[build prof=N/Mo name="Necro/Monk" box Curses=12+1+1 Soul=8+1 Protection=10][Divert Hexes][Convert Hexes][Insidious Parasite][Mark of Pain][Enfeebling Blood][No Skill][Signet of Lost Souls][Resurrection Chant][/build]

I have [Divert Hexes] on my curses/prot necro, and thought it was a worthwhile trade for what I previously had, [Spiteful Spirit]. It adds some decent red barring, which can be good depending on how much healing your setup has (I try to go with the minimum of healing possible, and prefer to split my healing/defense across multiple characters rather than having dedicated offense and defense characters). You're almost always getting rid of a condition or two as well when you take a hex off. Only a necro primary can afford to use this, however.

For hex heavy areas I usually have my monk heroes run this

[peace and harmony][cure hex][spotless soul][spotless mind][patient spirit][ethereal light][remove hex][resurrection chant]

This is a really good question, and I have spent some time developing a solution for it. However, the solution might not be to everyone's liking as it may require a change of play-style, particularly for Sabway/Discordway players.

I developed this build for Morostav Trail VQs, which is heavy on conditions and moderate on hexes. It seems to work just fine in other areas and kills at least as fast as Discordway with the same durability.


Hero 1: E/Mo - Ether-Prot

13 ES
10 Prot
10 Heal

Protective Spirit
Spirit Bond
Dwayna's Kiss
Infuse Health
Convert Hexes
Aegis
Ether Renewal
Aura of Restoration


Hero 2: N/Mo - Smiting Orders

13 Blood
11 SR
10 Smiting

Order of Pain
Dark Fury
Empathic Removal
Smite Hex
Smite Condition
Strip Enchantment
Masochism
Strength of Honor (disabled)


Hero 3: N/* - Jagged Bomber

16 Death
13 SR
4 Blood

Death Nova
Jagged Bones
Vampiric Minions
Fiends
Blood of the Master
Foul Feast
Dark Bond
Infuse Conditon


Henchmen:

Devona
Sword hench (favor Talon if available)
Archer (favor Zho if available)
Prot hench (if unavailable, healer hench, or rit is passable)


Since you are the melee, it's strongly advisable to be running SY anyway. This build doesn't require it, but adding insult-to-injury is a good way to win, so run it.

This has been tested with a Sin and War as the lead melee. Works equally well, you don't need to adapt the build at all between them. I would think a Para could run it just fine. Ranger? Dunno, I won't say no, but I'd expect it to be harder. Maybe, I'm wrong though.

Melee henchmen are selected for their synergy with Orders, and incidental skills. Devona's Charge! works on minions too, so it's a team-wide IMS. (For once this crappy hench skill helps)

The E/Mo Ether-Prot was build specifically to synergize with a prot-henchman. H/H won't recast a existing enchantment, so you'll get Aegis-chaining (yay), and proper PS+SB stacking. There are three party-wide enchants (Orders and Aegis), along with several point enchants, which make Dwayna's Kiss very effective. Infuse is used often and effectively. He will only use Convert when needed (not as a heal) and he self-maintains ER and AoR without microing. This bar is hero-proof. He CAN'T miscast. He CAN'T run out of energy.

Other Benefits:
Triple hex removal and triple cond-removal. (or 4x for both, depending on how you count Empathic)
Enchant removal
Automatic e-management AND self-heals for all heroes.
Order of Pain and SoH for melee buffing
Adrenaline boosting
Devona and the Archer usually have a few interrupts/KDs available, as well as a few extra conditions.

Try it out, feel free to leave feedback.

P&H used to be a good. I've used it with my para before. After the nerf, I'm not sure.

You can play generic sabway, but instead of jagged bones, take divert hexes or empathic removal.

You can play discordway with a melee. Search for daesu's build.. it's somewhere around here The very best way to avoid hexes is to have a huge minion army. Discordway, 2x MMs N/Mo's, both with hex removal discordway is very strong.

@Carinae:
The problem with ER hero is that heroes suck at it. If you care enough and manual everything, it's a decent option.

For hex heavy areas, orders aren't reliable enough IMO. You don't actually need it, at any rate, and I think another MM would help more.

I experimented with P&H, but you can't make it work on a hero bar. Monk heroes are just worthless as healers due to terrible e-management. Divert fails for the same reason.

This ER-Prot is actually quite good, especially when paired with a prot henchman or another ER-Prot. As I stated, the bar is hero-proof. He can't miscast or run out of energy. These heroes have been getting a LOT of play time in our alliance over the past few months. They are 100% fire-and-forget, you don't have to micro them at all.

I don't see why Orders would be less reliable in a hex-heavy area, especially with this degree of hex-removal.

In super hex-heavy areas, you could load the old [peace and harmony] onto a hero's bar and use it manually. It was helpful in places like the last level of Slaver's, where anti-melee hexes can be deadly. (I agree that heroes are kinda lame with it when they're left to their own devices.) However, the nerf has turned an interesting elite with an extremely narrow niche into a weaker elite with an extremely narrow niche, so there's even more reason than before to try to figure out a different strategy.