Today's Zaishen PVP Quest (5/1) counts Loses as Wins

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

... at least for Luxon. We even resigned one time when we had 5 leavers and it counted as my 3rd win on the Zaishen Quest. You miss out on the faction on each win but you could possibly farm 5k real fast if you had everyone resigning right away.

So yea, nice catch there A-Net, I'm sure no one would ever think to farm Z coins by spamming resign... right?

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

awsome!
12121212121212

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

I have not personally tested this, but other players that have played this on the Luxon side reported that this was not the case.

Need more data on the conditions under which the glitch works.

bursta91

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Canada

Gangsters In The [HooD]

Rt/

he is actually a kurz that cant win.
cause luxon=domination

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

I've done this on 2 PvP chars in a row now. I'm Luxon too.

DeFFik

DeFFik

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

Bielsko-Biała, Poland

R/

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10371214

already posted...

UnChosen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Great...now the exploiters and leecher get even more reward while the legit can't even play correctly...

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by UnChosen View Post
Great...now the exploiters and leecher get even more reward while the legit can't even play correctly...
Who can blame them with the steep price of the equipment packs and the Anet not testing their quests properly before release.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

I refuse to /resign just outta spite! Fort Aspenwood is one of my favorite mode and now I can't even play it.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

My team all resigned and at least I would'nt. They asked me again and again to resign but I thought to annoy them would be fun. So when it got to 99% I resigned.

I didn't know why we would resign, I have team and local chat off when dealing with FA or JQ. It was only until someone sent a pm and ask me to resign.

Rosie Woogs

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

this just started happening in AB as well. People really harrass those who don't resign. As far as I am concerned, the resigners fall in the same category as leechers and bots. Hope A-net takes care of it soon.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linksys View Post
The team I'm on is always mad at me for not resigning LOL. I'm not gonna risk getting banned for exploiting a bug.
Then they have to ban almost everyone LOL and nobody else would play.

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

W/

I doubt anybody will get banned for this. It's pretty awesome though.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linksys View Post
I won't take any chances. I also want Balthazar faction.
Let's just put it this way, I have never ever been banned by ANet before and I have supported them through all 4 campaigns across 3 accounts. But if they ban me for their own bug and their stupid decision of a carrot on the equipment pack then so be it.

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

All it takes is 1 of me to stop 15 cheaters.

Love it!

Got my nine without any resigns. And yes, there was much bitching about my lack of resign. It was music to my ears.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

New build available.

Gg

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

New build that's a 16kb file, I'm willing to bet it's something related to this.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

"A new build of Guild Wars is available"

Whats funny is they kicked everyone in the outposts too so there will be no stragglers.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Yep, fixed on the GW update.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

No more free coins folks, back to Grind Wars...

Wild Rituals

Wild Rituals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

NZ

Frenzy More [Plz]

Mo/W

Just got Fixed

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

grrr! i hope it didnt fix the bug. it would suck if they did

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

W/

It got fixed. I was enjoying Resign Wars.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IlikeGW View Post
No more free coins folks, back to Grind Wars...
Because going into a game and hitting /resign over and over isn't grind.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Funny that they took such swift action to fix this, I've seen them leave bigger problems around for much longer than that.

UnChosen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

So I was leeching for the entire time of the exploit just because people are opening green gates and minion suicide and all those stuff, no point in playing legit....

Surprise! I got reported as a leech nearly every time, funny how the only time the idiots will report is when they want to exploit a bug...

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Smile View Post
"A new build of Guild Wars is available"

Whats funny is they kicked everyone in the outposts too so there will be no stragglers.
LOL! Looks like it is back to AB.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

lol, well i got the quest done a few times xD

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Anet you banned 100 people or more for using a bug exploit to get to DOA from their guild hall. I think you should ban EVERYONE who used the /resign exploit go get fast easy zashien quest faction and coins. No better yet give them all a 72 hour ban and take all their faction and coins away and make them earn it the correct way. It's the only way to be fair to the rest who played correctly.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Just another illustration of how people do NOT have interestin in playing when gaming the game nets faster results and they are there purely only for hlaf a stack of zoins.

But i wonder why people simply did not achieve some kind of pact, i.e.:

Odd factions pvp zquest: all kurzicks leave (or afk battle or sabotage, whatever), all luxons stick and fight "stragglers" that ruin things by actually wanting to play, after each round people change sides.
Even faction pvp zquest: all luxons leave, kurziks stick.

Quick, easy, fair, carebear friendly. Should stick.

I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.

Bug John

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya View Post
Anet you banned 100 people or more for using a bug exploit to get to DOA from their guild hall. I think you should ban EVERYONE who used the /resign exploit go get fast easy zashien quest faction and coins. No better yet give them all a 72 hour ban and take all their faction and coins away and make them earn it the correct way. It's the only way to be fair to the rest who played correctly.
because you just had to type /resign to get in front of mallyx

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.
Exactly.

They once had the idea to be friendly to people who played GW, went away, played another game, came back...

There was also a mantra called "skill > time".

Today, they encourage spending a lot of time to get certain ranks to improve pve skills, or to get equipment packs. You get more powerful by playing GW over and over.


I always loved the LOW time requirements that came with the M:TG inspired horizontal progression model.

Today, GW shifts more and more to a standard MMO, but whereas other MMOs try to reduce and nullify grind, we even have a vertical progression model that requires a lot of time for something as simple as a bag.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Just another illustration of how people do NOT have interestin in playing when gaming the game nets faster results and they are there purely only for hlaf a stack of zoins.

But i wonder why people simply did not achieve some kind of pact, i.e.:
I think what you say is largely true... except I also think there are still quite a few people who really want to play, not just get through it as fast as possible for the reward, and repeat.

I was doing FA last night (before the exploit became known, it seems)... and it was ripping good fun. I did about a dozen matches, and in all of those I didn't see a single leech on my side - everybody was fighting, almost all matches went right to the end and some were very, very close. There was only one exception while I was playing - the opposing side all resigned... and now I know why!

Glad they fixed the bug. There is good fun to be had in FA, zcoins are the gravy.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

It seems that they may have also addressed doubling up on the PvP bounties. I can't seem to take today's HB with one I took previously.

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc View Post
(snip)
It died as soon as Factions was released and EoTN pretty much was the nail in the coffin.

Also, HB today - if it weren't for the 6k Balth faction I'd never play it, ever. I was honestly hoping for AB or JQ but they like making people suffer I guess.

RED TEAM RESIGN WOO~

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
It seems that they may have also addressed doubling up on the PvP bounties. I can't seem to take today's HB with one I took previously.
This still doesn't fix people being able to make a throw away pvp character, do pvp quest, delete, make new one and repeat to rake in mass zcoins.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya View Post
Anet you banned 100 people or more for using a bug exploit to get to DOA from their guild hall. I think you should ban EVERYONE who used the /resign exploit go get fast easy zashien quest faction and coins. No better yet give them all a 72 hour ban and take all their faction and coins away and make them earn it the correct way. It's the only way to be fair to the rest who played correctly.
LOL! Better yet, do a perm ban. If they mass ban everyone then nobody would be around to buy their GW2 when it launches would they? ANet is a company afterall, and profits is more important to a company than mass banning nearly everyone for their own mistake.

Why dont they just learn something from this? What do you think motivates so many people to play FA that day? Was it because we all suddenly fell in love with pvp and FA? Comon...we were "pushed" to do FA that day due to circumstances. Reality is, if it is not for the zoins, we wont have that many people playing FA, during a double faction AB weekend, in the first place. Who designed a demand for zoins into the game? ANet. If that demand wasn't there and that exploit wasn't there, many people wouldn't be playing FA that day.

If you dont want players joining FA that are not trully interested in FA, then ANet should not have the zoins FA quest. There will be fewer people in FA but at least you can be more certain that the people in FA games are trully interested in the match.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Just another illustration of how people do NOT have interestin in playing when gaming the game nets faster results and they are there purely only for hlaf a stack of zoins.
Exactly.

Quote:
But i wonder why people simply did not achieve some kind of pact, i.e.:

Odd factions pvp zquest: all kurzicks leave (or afk battle or sabotage, whatever), all luxons stick and fight "stragglers" that ruin things by actually wanting to play, after each round people change sides.
Even faction pvp zquest: all luxons leave, kurziks stick.

Quick, easy, fair, carebear friendly. Should stick.
They dont do that for the same reasons that even when the exploit was obvious, some people refuse to resign. Somehow they think that even 99.9% of their team mates are not interested in the match and have resigned, they can still win by themselves. Of course if they are interested in wasting them losing through the match over and over it is up to them or they are just greedy for that small amount of factions.

Quote:
I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.
Agree.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.
I couldn't agree more. Of the people I talked to that I saw doing this, most felt they would never get the rewards they wanted (heavy equip packs for multiple characters) legitimately. I can't say that I condone what was going on because of how it disrupts the people who actually want to play there, but I really don't disagree with their motivation. When you put such grind behind items that add functionality to your characters, this is what you get.