A possible Z Coin farming guide... for some of you

Boba Chick

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

So-Cal



I find this to be an extremely effective way to farm z coins. just wait for the HB quest. make a character and do the core requirement (2 wins). then take reward and delete. repeat...

on average, completing the quest takes 8~15min since on that day many people do not stay the whole match. lets assume you can complete the quest 6 times per hour, you would be getting 150 coins per hour. screenshot was taken at exactly 3hr into the farming.

you can also complete the 6 win bonus, which will give you more coins and less gold + faction. so it is your choice to have 100 more coins per hour or 4k + 24k factions

so if you find yourself suitable for this kind of farming, this is the fastest way. although HA is also a possible route, it takes time to find a good group for hall and generally slower than this method.

just make sure to store all gold in storage before deleting and spend factions, alot gold and faction was lost since i wasnt being careful. so do it before a possible nerf.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Or just do 6 rateds, not that hard.

Azure mist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

CAli

R/Mo

[email protected] pvx builds. And everybody knows about this. I farmed 120K+ balth from this quest. I got like almost 25 keys

Boba Chick

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

So-Cal

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Originally Posted by MMSDome View Post
Or just do 6 rateds, not that hard.
ya i did it a few times, this is new account so kinda need the factions

i updated my original thread, thx for pointing it out.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Rewards for these "pvp" quests are too big. Not to mention they should be account instead of character-based.

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

Yea but zkeys > Z-coins. sooo just take the two wins and repeat. Farmed up 100k in keys yesteryday.

And There's like 3 main builds if you rank like 1500 and higher. You run some variant of R/Ps heal as one spam with a monk, two monk and sin - see OPs pic, or Sf spam. Being original in any builds in HB won't get you very high, unless you're already high on the ladder. See the top rated battles. Hell i watched one yesterday where the most dmg done was the monks wanding each other. The one person ran two rangers with Escape and Trolls for christ sake. Now i understand its all about micro, but i mean do you know how lame and boring that was to watch...and its just as boring to play too.

But yes anyone with a brain has farmed the living crap out of HB battles.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I usually get an even better deal with Factions HM missions. They are usually very short time-wise if you want to get the bonus. They seem to give better rewards by now, too.

The best thing about the HB Zaishen Quest is that I could unlock the last few missing evolutions for my Menagerie.

@cataphract: I suppose it is a bug. We also could create a new char and the present counter for N. Sandford in Pre-Searing resetted every time till they fixed it.

Boba Chick

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

So-Cal

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Yea but zkeys > Z-coins. sooo just take the two wins and repeat. Farmed up 100k in keys yesteryday.

And There's like 3 main builds if you rank like 1500 and higher. You run some variant of R/Ps heal as one spam with a monk, two monk and sin - see OPs pic, or Sf spam. Being original in any builds in HB won't get you very high, unless you're already high on the ladder. See the top rated battles. Hell i watched one yesterday where the most dmg done was the monks wanding each other. The one person ran two rangers with Escape and Trolls for christ sake. Now i understand its all about micro, but i mean do you know how lame and boring that was to watch...and its just as boring to play too.

But yes anyone with a brain has farmed the living crap out of HB battles.
the builds you were talking about are not very viable to satisfy the "farming" condition since top 1000 does get matches from r2k~10k. i think it is better to use a meta build like the one i was using. i had no losses for the 3hr period and i have played 2 top 100 players. (sorry for the people i tanked). im just saying the build has to be good to start with

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I usually get an even better deal with Factions HM missions. They are usually very short time-wise if you want to get the bonus. They seem to give better rewards by now, too.

The best thing about the HB Zaishen Quest is that I could unlock the last few missing evolutions for my Menagerie.

@cataphract: I suppose it is a bug. We also could create a new char and the present counter for N. Sandford in Pre-Searing resetted every time till they fixed it.
up to 250 coins per hour and spammable? i kinda doubt it. but i think you are right. maybe you do get such an easy pve quest once a month since there are so many pve missions.

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

GvG is easier not for the zcoins but for faction ... 9k Balth for each win was a nice addition.

evenfall

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

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Originally Posted by timebandit View Post
GvG is easier not for the zcoins but for faction ... 9k Balth for each win was a nice addition.
It takes only 2 wins in HB for 6k faction. And most matches last 2-3min as people resign when they are behind or feel they are outmatched.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thats just common sense. And gvg gives better rewards, make a new build, do the quest, only 1 win needed, reroll, gogo again.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Maybe HB can be made more tolerable if they disallowed you to bring more then one monk hero? You know brick wall parties are no fun even if you use them yourself because all they do is making the HB's long and tedius.

riktw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

netherlands

Mo/E

rock paper scissors.
yes i farmed my butt of lol

EchoMoon

EchoMoon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Coloma, Michigan.

E C H O E S

E/N

AWESOME!!! Idea...THX! for sharing ..((<< This actually sounds easy even for somone like myself that is more of a PVE base player....But your right! Will probably get NERFED! lol ..Anything easy someone figures out usuallu does...>>))

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
Rewards for these "pvp" quests are too big. Not to mention they should be account instead of character-based.
Agreed. I doubt they'll fix it though.

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boba Chick View Post
the builds you were talking about are not very viable to satisfy the "farming" condition since top 1000 does get matches from r2k~10k. i think it is better to use a meta build like the one i was using. i had no losses for the 3hr period and i have played 2 top 100 players. (sorry for the people i tanked). im just saying the build has to be good to start with
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I meant lower. I literally meant higher number rank, which i guess technically is not how you say it. You'd be lower rank with 2k+. I was a bit tired. But yea what i meant to say is that 10k-1.5k you see alot of those three builds. ALOT. Anything below 4k, and you have a chance at anything, wiki build, random heroes, tankers, rollers, etc.

The first HB quest day, I farmed 26 wins in a row, after i lost my first EVER 4 rounds in HB in the AT, cuz i just loaded some random bars and went to fight. Somehow i managed to win 3 rounds....none by forfeit either. And hell I came up with my own builds, except for the Caretakers Rt, it was just better than my OoS Rt i used at first. I mean not bad for a Wastrel's Sin, RoJ smiter, Weapon of Shadow Rt, and a Pnh hybrid. I've changed and altered many times, cuz I refuse to play BB or triple R/Ps cuz i still belive HB is uber lame, but i mean just tank an AT or, and you're back playing with scrubs again if you win too much. Highest I got was 2.5k with the above builds, then i just kept facing sins with 2 and 3 monk backlines over and over and over again.

But I mean you can manage without running lame BB way. Sure they may not win as much, considering only way to counter it is even more defense and or a better BB sin team.

But whatever. Didn't mean to degrade into an HB meta discussion.

All i meant to say was that, yes its may not be as fast as the wins you get a BB sin wiki team, you can still win good amounts of matches at low ranks with other builds, which is good for the pve and newcomers to HB.

Xanthe Dashka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Old news. The first day was a GvG event... so yeah...

pixie the monk

pixie the monk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

here and sometimes there...

AatX

Mo/Me

the ha quest is the easiest, 6wins and you dont even have to win halls...
so many zcoins and faction yummy

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

150 coins per hour doing pvp? No thanks! You can do better in PvE...

I did some pve missions (like Dzaganu Bastion) HM for like 4 times in 1 hr, and got 90 zcoins each time for masters. Thats 360 coins per hr. Then killed Fenrir on several characters that got me another 280 coins.

Pve Missions and bounties are really easy if you have multiple characters. On average, you should still be able to rake in 250 copper zcoins per hour if you have like 6-8 characters that can reach that particular area. Even pugging on some is ok if you lack proper ruined heroes on all your heroes.

In short, if you invested energy on GW among multiple characters, farming zcoins will be the least of your issues. A heavy pack, this way, is not hard to get at all.

leetLoLa

leetLoLa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

Pawn!

Who Are You [wAu]

W/Mo

gg now annet will remove the huge ammounts of balta factions at reward gg

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

WAIT! There was another thread with countless bitching about how the zcoin grind was too high. Did we all forget?!

LOL

Yarly

Yarly

Retired GW Player

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

Mo/

GvG Is by far the best faction farm if you're after keys. Some of my guildies made 90+ keys just today.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

so how exactically is this a farming guide?

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by leetLoLa View Post
gg now annet will remove the huge ammounts of balta factions at reward gg
Like they didn't know it was going to be abused before they made the Zquests....

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Let's not forget these generous balth rewards are going to sink Zkey price. But I suppose it will put a larger % of the remaining value to PvP instead of XTH.

Still I wouldn't mind HB aka rollway down to 3k balth or something.

Boba Chick

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

So-Cal

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Old news. The first day was a GvG event... so yeah...
yes GVG is just as fast if you can manage to win every 20min with people/guildies online all the time.

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rock paper scissors.
yes i farmed my butt of lol
^^

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But I mean you can manage without running lame BB way. Sure they may not win as much, considering only way to counter it is even more defense and or a better BB sin team.

But whatever. Didn't mean to degrade into an HB meta discussion.

All i meant to say was that, yes its may not be as fast as the wins you get a BB sin wiki team, you can still win good amounts of matches at low ranks with other builds, which is good for the pve and newcomers to HB.
you right. but bb sin is really not that lame considering there is the shadowstep meta. and yes it is more about micro and less about the build, as long as the build is not one of the new capway metas.

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so how exactically is this a farming guide?
i think you are getting my idea

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150 coins per hour doing pvp? No thanks! You can do better in PvE...

I did some pve missions (like Dzaganu Bastion) HM for like 4 times in 1 hr, and got 90 zcoins each time for masters. Thats 360 coins per hr. Then killed Fenrir on several characters that got me another 280 coins.

Pve Missions and bounties are really easy if you have multiple characters. On average, you should still be able to rake in 250 copper zcoins per hour if you have like 6-8 characters that can reach that particular area. Even pugging on some is ok if you lack proper ruined heroes on all your heroes.

In short, if you invested energy on GW among multiple characters, farming zcoins will be the least of your issues. A heavy pack, this way, is not hard to get at all.
yes it is not an issue. but easy mission doesnt come everyday and has a cap according to ur characters

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by leetLoLa View Post
gg now annet will remove the huge ammounts of balta factions at reward gg
Don't need to remove, just spread it like the Zcoins.

For example, HA quest would give 2.5k base, 2.5k for getting to HoH and 4k for bonus instead of 9k in one chunk.