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Ez now

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

The great inferno [Burn]

W/Mo

05 May 2009 at 17:11 - 1

Well, today, I was finishing off my AB zaishen quest, and first game I had, everyone on kurz resigned, because we were getting trashed. I play a few more games with my team, get a couple of wins, then our whole team resigned again, we loaded back into grenz, and we've got dishonourable? Why is this, it's not like I made my team resign, they all did it by choice, and yet we get dishonourable, just seems a bit strange, that's all. Anyone tell me why this is?

*Edit* To make it clear, I did resign, i'm not saying i didn't, but when half your team have given up and resigned, no chance. And i'm not going to waste my time trying to slow down opposite team, when i'm going to get next to no faction + that in no way helps me complete my z quest, which was the whole point. Atleast if I resign, I can get back into the game straight away, rather than wasting time fighting a pointless cause

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

05 May 2009 at 17:15 - 2

Your team wasn't honorable, and Guild Wars needs more honor, to the death!!!!

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

05 May 2009 at 17:15 - 3

They probably reported you since you didn't resign like them too and they didn't like it. Oh wait the whole TEAM had dishonorable? Guess others didn't like that they left.

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

05 May 2009 at 17:23 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ez now

Well, today, I was finishing off my AB zaishen quest, and first game I had, everyone on kurz resigned, because we were getting trashed. I play a few more games with my team, get a couple of wins, then our whole team resigned again, we loaded back into grenz, and we've got dishonourable? Why is this, it's not like I made my team resign, they all did it by choice, and yet we get dishonourable, just seems a bit strange, that's all. Anyone tell me why this is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by refer

They probably reported you since you didn't resign like them too and they didn't like it. Oh wait the whole TEAM had dishonorable? Guess others didn't like that they left.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Disho...mbatant_System

"Players who leave a PvP match prematurely will receive 5 dishonor points. Resigning can count as premature exit in Alliance Battles and Rollerbeetle Racing"

StarryNites

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

uk

WIMP

05 May 2009 at 17:37 - 5

lmao
Nice to know players like you who quit before started the fight get f**ked over like this, so annoying entering a battle and seeing players resign etc, and leaving them that have gone into the game for a fun fight under manned because you dont feel like it or have got ur bonuses.
Nice one

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

05 May 2009 at 18:09 - 6

last time i checked resign is not honorable in anyway standing your ground and fighting til its over was

Ez now

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

The great inferno [Burn]

W/Mo

05 May 2009 at 18:14 - 7

Quote:

lmao
Nice to know players like you who quit before started the fight get f**ked over like this, so annoying entering a battle and seeing players resign etc, and leaving them that have gone into the game for a fun fight under manned because you dont feel like it or have got ur bonuses.
Nice one

The fight was halfway through, and the WHOLE kurzick side resigned. I didn't even start the resigning, but when half of the people do, looks like the game is going nowhere. And yes, i'm QQing, because i think it's stupid that the whole side resigns, and I get dishonourable

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

05 May 2009 at 18:20 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ez now

The fight was halfway through, and the WHOLE kurzick side resigned. I didn't even start the resigning, but when half of the people do, looks like the game is going nowhere. And yes, i'm QQing, because i think it's stupid that the whole side resigns, and I get dishonourable

If you resigned you broke the rule, if your whole team was gone the match would only have lasted another minute or 2 at the most.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

05 May 2009 at 18:44 - 9

Because wasting opponent's time to bitter end is honorable.

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

05 May 2009 at 19:04 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarryNites

lmao
Nice to know players like you who quit before started the fight get f**ked over like this, so annoying entering a battle and seeing players resign etc, and leaving them that have gone into the game for a fun fight under manned because you dont feel like it or have got ur bonuses.
Nice one

Please get a life and some grammar lessons.

The difference between AB and others is that while every other PvP instances will require everyone's consent to resign, AB requires and causes only 1/3 of the entire side to resign, leaving others no choice but to resign themselves or get creamed. Resigning is not 'breaking the rules,' but rather, it's to discourage people from doing it too frequently. The obvious solution would be to require everyone on one side to consent for resigning.

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

05 May 2009 at 19:04 - 11

Screw that, i'll make the opposing team work for those points.

alluring athena

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

05 May 2009 at 19:16 - 12

You said the whole side resigned....yet avoid specifically saying that you also resigned.

Your team resigned therefore you all earned dishonor for leaving the match before it was over.

10 Dishonor points = Dishonorable Hex
You each earn 5 dishonor points each time you resigned.

From wiki....
Dishonor points will remain on the player's account for a total of 60 minutes. If further dishonor points are acquired during this period, that account is once again given the Dishonorable status, though for a longer period of time due to the accumulation of points.

* To clear dishonor points from an account, a player must go 60 minutes without accumulating any new dishonor points.

Lord Of Blame

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

USA

Marked Souls [MkS]

E/N

05 May 2009 at 19:40 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollo Smile

Screw that, i'll make the opposing team work for those points.

QFT.........

I'm not leaving, ever. This happened to me the other day as well. After the gates opened it was only 4 people fighting, the four on my team. Of course we got trashed, but it just made me remember why I typically never go into AB's.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

05 May 2009 at 20:26 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by refer

They probably reported you since you didn't resign like them too and they didn't like it. Oh wait the whole TEAM had dishonorable? Guess others didn't like that they left.

If my entire team resigns and I don't so be it i'll keep playing, they can report me all they want, and when they do, and the message "blahblahtank has been reported for leeching" pops up, I'll just screenshot that good stuff while im playing in the middle of a honest fight and ill go ahead and open a support ticket with anet, attach the screenie and let them know that idiots STILL abuse the report system. I love seeing people get owned for abusing the report system. It says right in the window about how you can get banned for abusing the report function. LOL. Then some idiots get their friends and chain report someone then wonder why they keep getting consistent suspends till a perma ban. Internet is win.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

05 May 2009 at 20:36 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN

Your team wasn't honorable, and Guild Wars needs more honor, to the death!!!!

Agreed and I think using /resign should count just like a quit so these people can't just stop playing because they are losing. You joined the match, finish the match. Anet really needs to get strict on this /resign mess. Longer dishonor times would work like 30 minutes instead of 10 minutes.

UnChosen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

05 May 2009 at 20:48 - 16

Instead of resigning just type /dance and minimize GW and go surf the web for a bit. If you're gonna get dishonoured for resigning with the team anyways you might as well risk getting reported for leeching and try to earn that losing game faction. Can't believe how many times I have to do that when the Z quest was active, so many idiots being there just for the coins.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

05 May 2009 at 21:05 - 17

Now I am an ignorant pve player with very little experience of pvp having played less than a dozen times.

Let me get this right there is a resign command

If you resign you might get a dishonorable marker

People who get this may not always deserve it

people get upset

So Wouldn't it be possible to remove the resign command from the players altogether and have the game itself decide to end a game when certain conditions are met.

Of course if players just leave and log off then there would still be the dishonorable for that.
leave too many times on the trot and you get penalised play honorably for so many games and the counter gets reset to zero.

Anyway what the heck do I know

StarryNites

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

uk

WIMP

05 May 2009 at 21:47 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollo Smile

Screw that, i'll make the opposing team work for those points.

even if getting trounced still try to hurt an opposing team player is the way to go
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR sort of thing hehe

as for grammar and life quite good thx ...

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

05 May 2009 at 22:22 - 19

THE REASON AB IS DIFFERENT IS BECAUSE RESIGNING LEAVES 8 OTHER PLAYERS IN THE GAME

There. So much misinformation going on in this thread. You get dishonor for resigining in AB (but not in other forms of PvP) because when your team of 4 resigns, your team leaves, but you leave behind the other 2 teams of 4 players on your side who are now outnumbered. The dishonor is awarded because your leaving screwed over them.

Crawford Team Captain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Imperial Isle

Be Kind Please Resign [Rsgn]

W/

05 May 2009 at 22:23 - 20

anet detected ur badness and hexed u with dishonorable so u couldnt play pvp anymore

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

05 May 2009 at 23:10 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN

Your team wasn't honorable, and Guild Wars needs more honor, to the death!!!!

Honour, it's serious business!

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

05 May 2009 at 23:34 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

THE REASON AB IS DIFFERENT IS BECAUSE RESIGNING LEAVES 8 OTHER PLAYERS IN THE GAME

There. So much misinformation going on in this thread. You get dishonor for resigining in AB (but not in other forms of PvP) because when your team of 4 resigns, your team leaves, but you leave behind the other 2 teams of 4 players on your side who are now outnumbered. The dishonor is awarded because your leaving screwed over them.

Clear and concise explanation thanks Hawk

Under those rules I would stay till dead, retreating from an enemy is one thing deserting allies is another.

Lux Aeterna

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2009

RAH

Close Enough [XVII]

W/A

05 May 2009 at 23:44 - 23

Dishonorable is given automatically 90% of the time. I get it every so often from internet disconnects or logging out at the end of a match.

Just go trade in kamedan or play pve for 15 minutes until the hex goes away.

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

05 May 2009 at 23:54 - 24

Something rather essential has been missed here....in AB, if the opposition controls all shrines then the match ends in 1 minute. That = a built in mechanism to prevent people having to sit around for the entire match if they are losing so badly. Plus, its not like a battle actually lasts very long.

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

06 May 2009 at 01:01 - 25

Quote:

I get it every so often from internet disconnects or logging out at the end of a match.

I got it from internet d/c once - apparently if you leave before it ports you back to the outpost, it counts as leaving prematurely, even after you've finished the match proper. Then again, it's only a few more seconds, so why not wait if that's the case :P

Quote:

There. So much misinformation going on in this thread. You get dishonor for resigining in AB (but not in other forms of PvP) because when your team of 4 resigns, your team leaves, but you leave behind the other 2 teams of 4 players on your side who are now outnumbered. The dishonor is awarded because your leaving screwed over them.

Pretty much, yeah. Once one team resigns just about everyone else resigns too - I think in one AB match I was the 7th or 8th player to up and leave because it was so frustratingly futile.

Ez now

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

The great inferno [Burn]

W/Mo

06 May 2009 at 16:14 - 26

Quote:

THE REASON AB IS DIFFERENT IS BECAUSE RESIGNING LEAVES 8 OTHER PLAYERS IN THE GAME

There. So much misinformation going on in this thread. You get dishonor for resigining in AB (but not in other forms of PvP) because when your team of 4 resigns, your team leaves, but you leave behind the other 2 teams of 4 players on your side who are now outnumbered. The dishonor is awarded because your leaving screwed over them.

No. Our WHOLE SIDE resigned, not just my team left, the game ended when our WHOLE SIDE resigned. Our team didn't leave, the game just ended, as it would if the other team had scored 500 points, or gained all 7 control points. And no, they hadn't already won.

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

06 May 2009 at 16:30 - 27

Quote:

No. Our WHOLE SIDE resigned, not just my team left, the game ended when our WHOLE SIDE resigned. Our team didn't leave, the game just ended, as it would if the other team had scored 500 points, or gained all 7 control points. And no, they hadn't already won.

Maybe it's because you weren't the last to resign? =\

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

06 May 2009 at 16:46 - 28

could this be the start of a sync patrol?

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

E/

06 May 2009 at 20:28 - 29

This is sort of why I prefer to AB with guildies and allies. Even if everyone else gives up, we're still going to harass the other team as much as possible and have fun doing so.

I don't like I have ever voluntarily left a match early, no matter how pissed off I was....at the other team or my own teammates. I've be d/c'ed (and boy don't that piss me off) a few times though.