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Dawndisciple

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

United kingdom

08 May 2009 at 07:42 - 1

Hi everone \o
I am new to Guild wars, coming here after playing AOC.

What I am not understanding is whenever I am in a town, there are many people there running around with a thing over their heads saying that they have a group of 2 or 3 but whatever I do I cannot get them to invite me to their group.
Is everybody in the game so antisocial?

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

08 May 2009 at 07:52 - 2

It could be for many reasons.

1) People generally don't group unless they have to. The entire game can be beaten with just heroes and henchmen, so if you're just trying to get a group for the sake of having other people to go around and do random quests, it's not going to work.

2) You might be too low leved for people to take you seriously.

3) Number 1 rule for grouping: Unless you know the person, theres a 99.99% chance that that person is a complete idiot. I don't like having to redo missions because people are too stupid to understand a simple instruction.

If you want to play with other people/need to get orientated, join a decent guild (look through the guild forums on Guru and find one that appeals) and they should answer your questions and help out when you need it.

xron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Denbigh, Wales

Zero Zero

R/

08 May 2009 at 07:57 - 3

well you have to ask yourself where are you and why?

there are so many different things to do in the game it's unlikely you'll be in the same outpost for the same reason.
unless it's a mission outpost but then, as stated above, ppl play with friends or heroes.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

08 May 2009 at 08:08 - 4

I can see how it could appear that way

Many of the players you see are not forming parties its just the heroes they used last.
Before heroes all players that logged into the game were alone but heroes persist and I usually forget I have them with me.

Best way is to use the chat channels they are set up to trade and find parties.
You could also announce yourself in the right channel as looking for a party.

Dawndisciple

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

United kingdom

08 May 2009 at 08:11 - 5

I see.

Things are very different to what I am use to, but I will get the hang of it eventually.
Overall I would say that the gaming community in Guild wars is mainly friendly, which I find important. I just could not figure out why I was not getting invited or what it was I was doing wrong.

Faure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

R/

08 May 2009 at 08:44 - 6

Best thing you could do as a new player who doesn't want to use only Hero's/Henchmen is trying to get in a beginner-friendly guild. It will help you understand the game, what to do where and when and most of all; you'll have some friendly and nice people around you that won't judge you for being a newbie. If you want to join a random group you will be most likely get snobbed by players that have far more experience.

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

08 May 2009 at 09:05 - 7

Not being able to invite them will probably point that they are full, so there is no room for you.
If they are rejecting you, it can have multiple reasons.
My main reason I click away people if they invite me, is most people that do that (no offence) aren't so well known with the game, and mostly have failing builds. I prefer my heroes and henchman then, that listen to what I say.
Secondly the goal can be different. Sometimes people ask me to help with the mission or quest, but I'm about to do it in HM or going to vanquish the area near it.
Don't feel dumped, you'll get the hang of it.

+ exactly what Faure said. Its not rare people are snobbie and are going to shout bad things at you. And to prevent you from getting agro of those people, only attack what they attack. Never walk on from, never last person, just stay in the middle so it's never your folt

You better not get agro of some people as after your group failed, he is going to waste an hour of his life spamming <Name> is a noob, dont invite him! shouting in the outpost. Specially in alliance battles, some people have blacklists

Good luck in Guild Wars!

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

08 May 2009 at 09:17 - 8

Like Marty said I just use heroes because I hate having to redo easy things because of people being incompetant. I even remember a while ago when heroes were first introduced people were using them in ab and it was basically just one person and 3 heroes per group. They removed them shortly after of course. But the point is that people don't really group unless they have to.
Getting into a close guild can make things more enjoyable and you can get people to come along then.

Dawndisciple

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

United kingdom

08 May 2009 at 09:50 - 9

Thank you for all of your replys, I now know what is going on and why.

My first day, I think, I was invited twice so you can see why I was a little baffled at not receiving any more invites to group.
In the future if I don't receive any invite I will just make up my own group of henchpeople and get on with it.

I must have wasted hours of game time by standing around waiting for invites.

StManTiS

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

Fake As A Wedding [CaKe]

E/Rt

08 May 2009 at 10:46 - 10

Well just like you can solo AoC all the way to 80, you can get far in this game using just heroes

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

08 May 2009 at 11:43 - 11

Use discordway =), just get three necros and ull be absolutely fine!

Golanda Mard

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2009

VV

E/Me

08 May 2009 at 11:49 - 12

join a guild (worked for me) they'll help you with missions if really stuck.
Henchies can do the trick to
Use the chat (LFP "name of the mission")
Check what district you are playing in.... if there is almost nobody your chances will be reduced. (left top corner)

Usually if someone asks for help for a mission i've already done i accept, so i expect there are many who do the same.
Continue to level you char... the higher it is, the more chance they will accept. Check for good pve builds on various forums (www.pvxwiki.com) and learn to use it.
grtz

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

08 May 2009 at 11:51 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Use discordway =), just get three necros and ull be absolutely fine!

That's impossible until you get further along in the game.

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

08 May 2009 at 12:01 - 14

Be proactive, start your own group of people. Invite them! ask around to see if anyone is doing what your doing. Find someelse who is as new as you are and go traveling with them, odds are they will know about as much as you so you can laern together rather than ebing dragged along by more experianced players.

Also like its been mentioned, find a good guild who don't mind you being new and start building up your friends list. It's always good to have a list of people who you can PM and just say "I'm going to do this, do you need it?"

If you ever need help in the game feel free to ask mein game 'neyway.

<-- IGN

Elephantaliste

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

adblockplus.or

08 May 2009 at 12:16 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawndisciple

I must have wasted hours of game time by standing around waiting for invites.

THey aren't inviting you for the same reason you don't invite people too...
-> there is no reason you don't invite people yourself.

Dawndisciple

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

United kingdom

08 May 2009 at 12:20 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elephantaliste

THey aren't inviting you for the same reason you don't invite people too...
-> there is no reason you don't invite people yourself.

Except for I assume that they know where they are going.

Johny bravo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

[SoS]

N/

08 May 2009 at 13:06 - 17

Also make use of the party window. Advertise yourself as What class you are playing and what mission/quest you want to do. You can also send a join request to other people looking for the same missions.

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

08 May 2009 at 13:20 - 18

Random invites are usually bad. Since there are multiple reasons to form a party in ALL locations, make sure people know what you want to do and that you want to do it with other people. Using local chat and the Party Search feature let you tell other people what you want, and if they want the same thing, they can find you easier. So if you are in a mission outpost, but want to do a quest near there, not the mission, and I am there wanting to do the mission, we wouldn't want to join up with each other.

Communication is key, and it sounds like you are just WAITING. If you are doing more than that, I apologize, but it sounds like you are expecting people to invite you without talking to you first. YOU can easily talk first by telling people you want to join a group and why you want to join that group.

Hybrid Meteroa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

N/

08 May 2009 at 13:23 - 19

I would let you join my group! Unless you're a wammo... I hate wammos.... =P

Dawndisciple

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

United kingdom

08 May 2009 at 13:56 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

If you are doing more than that, I apologize, but it sounds like you are expecting people to invite you without talking to you first. YOU can easily talk first by telling people you want to join a group and why you want to join that group.

Ha-ha, no, I did the lfg thing and sent people a whisper, I even resorted to /pickme in front of them, but to no avail.
Now that it has been explained to me that most people prefer to quest alone or with their hero's, it all makes perfect sense.

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

E/

08 May 2009 at 15:07 - 21

It's tough in the early part of the game, usually randomly adding yourself to someone will let them know you're new and they definitely won't take you. However, there's tons of good guilds that look for new people, they usually recruit in the early part of the game. Pick one and join it. If you don't like it, leave and find another. A good guild in this game goes a long way towards making it fun to play.

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

08 May 2009 at 20:33 - 22

This is the negative side of heros/henchmen, killing pugs slowly. I think they should be bared from primary quests and missions, or only allowed in a couple cases, or only for primary/not for everything else.

Dawndisciple

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

United kingdom

09 May 2009 at 06:51 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by refer

This is the negative side of heros/henchmen, killing pugs slowly. I think they should be bared from primary quests and missions, or only allowed in a couple cases, or only for primary/not for everything else.

I think maybe you are right. I found for a multi play game there is not much multi playing going on.
But I think Guild wars is a very good game and is a lot of fun to play, so no complaints here.

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

09 May 2009 at 09:44 - 24

Don't be shy, shout what you want in towns/outposts (but not in full caps, full caps = insta-noob), for ages I wondered why no-one would speak to me, you kinda have to force your way in there in GW's. Like someone else said it's the P window to shout requests etc.

Best bet is to try and join a decent guild early on, theres always guilds recruiting at lower level areas, hope you get a good 1

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

W/

09 May 2009 at 12:43 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebideedee

Best bet is to try and join a decent guild early on, theres always guilds recruiting at lower level areas, hope you get a good 1

Problem is, the good ones aren't the ones with someone sitting in Ascalon, Lion's Arch, Shing Jea, Kaineng Center or Kamadan (hmm, annoying that NF doesn't have a second city where people gather, like the other two do :P) spamming Local...

As for Heroes killing PUGs (in an earlier post), well, groups really aren't needed for most of the game and, even pre-Heroes, never really were. It's quite easy to think of GW as a traditional single-player computer/console RPG (and it stands up very well on that front), with some mostly optional multiplayer aspects. Really, except for two quests in Pre-Searing Ascalon, and the transition PvP at the end of it (which will skip if no one else goes through at the same time), there's no grouping with other humans that's mandatory - though there's places where you don't really want to have to rely on H/H AI: the final 2-3 missions in each campaign/EotN, Vizunah Square, Gyala Hatchery/Eternal Grove(?), Aurora Glade, just off the top of my head....

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

09 May 2009 at 13:30 - 26

I know what you mean ogre but there are a few decent ones that recruit in those places but also many many bad ones that do nothing but spam, the OP will just have to try a few and hopefully find one that fits

xron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Denbigh, Wales

Zero Zero

R/

09 May 2009 at 13:59 - 27

I always found the best guild... and subsequently the best recruits through playing the game and either being helped or offering help ad hoc... that way you build up a bit of a friendship and when/if you join or they join the guild it's much more long term and loyal rather than hoping that random "spam" recruits stay lol....

So what I'm saying is to go out try and get into some groups and meet and talk with people, you'll soon find some very nice people about

Solid_Gold

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

09 May 2009 at 17:12 - 28

Dawndisciple, yeah l found things pretty much the same, l've just returned after about a 3 year break.

Now it feels like a single player game, not many parties, nobody chats, maybe the missions have been made easier, or the henchies better, because as l remember it many missions could not be completed with henchies, now l just do everything with henchies.

There's also loads of new stuff, and builds l don't fully understand, l still have my original Ranger and l don't really want to part with her.

The general advice you'll get here is, don't expect to get invited to parties, start your own party, get in a guild, nobody "pugs" anymore (If l knew what that meant), the game is getting old, wait for GW2, etc, etc.

Anyway it's still a good game, l guess it is getting old but there's still loads to do.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

10 May 2009 at 09:57 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawndisciple

I think maybe you are right. I found for a multi play game there is not much multi playing going on.
But I think Guild wars is a very good game and is a lot of fun to play, so no complaints here.

Since its such an old game many players have finished the pve part of the game often with multiple characters, they are then concentrating on other achievements.

Gaining titles raising cash to buy stuff etc but there are still players like yourself new to the game its finding them amongst the crowd that is a problem.

It was a lot easier a year or so back since almost every town had players just there to do the game missions.

Its not a big problem with friends or a guild or even henchmen as long as your having fun why worry.
GW 2 will come along and we will all be desperate for parties again.