My Zaishen Reward Ideas

List:
Destroyer Summoning Stone
Titan Summoning Stone
Tormented Summoning Stone
Skeleton Army Summoning Stone
Everlasting Expert Salvage Kit
Everlasting Identification Kit
Everlasting Zaishen Tonic
Everlasting PvP Priest Tonic
Everlasting Zaishen Summoning Stone
Everlasting Destroyer Summoning Stone
Everlasting Titan Summoning Stone
Everlasting Tormented Summoning Stone
Everlasting Skeleton Army Summoning Stone
Miniature Egg
Golden Lockpick
Halo
Flame
Wings


= 5
Destroyer Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon two random Destroyers, at your level that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.
List:
Destroyer of Bones
Destroyer of Flesh
Destroyer of Sinew
Destroyer of Earth
Destroyer of Compassion
Destroyer of Deeds
Destroyer of Hordes
Destroyer of Hope
Destroyer of Thoughts
Destroyer of Souls
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= 8
Titan Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon a random Titan at your level that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.
List:
Frost Titan
Rotting Titan
Burning Titan
Misery Titan
Anguish Titan
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= 7
Tormented Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon a random Tormented Creature at your level that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.
List:
Flesh Tormentor
Spirit Tormentor
Heart Tormentor
Soul Tormentor
Mind Tormentor
Water Tormentor
Sanity Tormentor
Earth Tormentor
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= 1 + Umbral Skeletal Limb = 5
Skeleton Army Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon six Skeletons, six levels below you that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.
List:
Dragon Lich
Skeletal Berserker
Skeletal Impaler
Skeletal Bond
Skeletal Ether Breaker
Skeletal Icehand

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= 60
Everlasting Expert Salvage Kit
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= 60
Everlasting Identification Kit
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= 100
Everlasting Zaishen Tonic -Double-click to transform yourself into a random form. This item cannot be used in PvP.
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= 150
Everlasting PvP Priest Tonic -Double-click to transform yourself into a Priest of Balthazar. This item can be used in PvP.

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= 25 + = 150
Everlasting Zaishen Summoning Stone Double-click to summon a random ally of your level that lasts for 30 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one summoned ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.

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= 30 + Mahgo Claw = 250 + Dark Claw =50
Everlasting Destroyer Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon two random Destroyers at your level that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.
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= 10 + = 50 + Dark Remains = 250 + Shadowy Crest = 100

Everlasting Titan Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon a random Titan, two levels above your level that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. his item can only be used in explorable areas.
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= 250 + Umbral Skeletal Limb = 250
Everlasting Skeleton Army Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon six Skeletons, six levels below you that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.
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= 40 + Gloom Seed = 250
Everlasting Tormented Summoning Stone - Double-click to summon random Tormented Creature at your level that lasts for 60 minutes or until slain in combat. Summoning stones can only be activated once every 60 minutes per character, and only one ally from a summoning stone can be present in an instance at a time. This item can only be used in explorable areas.
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= 30
Miniature Egg - Double click to get a random miniature pet reward!
CHEAT SHEET:
Can only get mini pets that are originally from Birthday Presents. The Mini's also equal your characters age (1 year, 3 year etc.)
50% Chance for a white mini pet.
25% Chance for a blue mini pet
15% Chance for a purple mini pet
7% Chance for a gold mini pet
2.5% Chance for a green mini pet
.5% Chance for 100 Zaishen Keys
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= 1 + Demonic Fang = 5
Golden Lockpick: This Lockpick has an additional 75% chance not to break. (Max: 95%)

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= 10 + Phantom Residue = 250 + Obsidian Burrower Jaw = 50
Halo: Armor Head Piece - Attribute +1
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= 10 + Demonic Remains = 250 + Gruesome Sternum = 50
Flame: Head Piece - Attribute + 1
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= 10 + Frosted_Griffon_Wing = 250 + Celestial_Essence = 250 + Skree_Wing = 250
Wings: Chest Piece - Armor = 60/70/80

More to come! (Give me some idea's to)

as if there aren't enough summoning stones already, u want to make them everlasting??? ...... If ur that obsessed with them why dont u just take summon fire/ice imp/ naga .....

This sounds awesome! a good way to ensure that ppl will keep doing the Z-quests
And some of the stuff would be super awesome
Good thinking^^

I'd like to see more high end gold zcoin stuff to be able to lower heavy equipment pack cost while maintaining active participation in zquests for obtaining items beyond equip packs.

But everlating salvage and id kits would need to cost more z coins.

I'm not a fan of summoning stones.

Hmmm, my 3 PvE skills... [[ebon vanguard assassin support], [[pain inverter] and [[great dwarf weapon] K, rdy!...... The Asura is good, but do some zquest for the $$$

Exactly
Fixed

I like:
Gold coins for everlasting tonics and summoning stones.
I like the everlasting salvage and identification kits.

I don't like:
% chances. Don't need them. And they sound ridiculous.
(This goes for the mini bag as well)

The % chances are to up game play a little. 1 out of 20 times you use a titan stone you might have 2 titans . 1 out of 33 times you can use the stone again etc. The % chances are not going to be in text descriptions.

You will be surprised how a game of chance will go. (locked chests?)

Hmm very interesting ideas, i like all of your summoning stone ideas, but not the double destroyers. One is enough IMO. The everlasting salvage kit i love! How come you missed out the everlasting ID kit? I'd love that too.

The lucky mini bag is an interesting idea and i do like the sounds of it too.

".4% Chance for 250 Zaishen Keys" Hmm, i know the chance is pathetically small, but i still think it should be something like 50zkeys.

I agree that there should be some funky fo shizzle for gold coins, I would like to see armour/accessories. For example, 100 gold coins gets you angel or fell wings.

i love these ideas OP! its just the grind to get one single gold coin.. ieieieie. obviously something to work towards, i wish the zquests gave more reward and could be account based.

I like the ID kit and Salvage kt ideas, but they'd have to be even more costly then 25 and 35, more like 50 or more. The tonic being used in pvp is bad. The stones that summon multiple things and have no sickness limitations are bad, just make them like the imp stone but useable at any level, and they'd need to be cheaper, since most stone monsters fail anyway no point in wasting 100-200+ gold zoins on em....

As long as all these special effects don't take activity in PvP areas as to distract/obstruct playing then I'm okay with it. (pretty much as long as it doesn't affect gameplay)

The everlasting id and salvage kits seem awesome, but i'm quite iffy on everlasting summoning stones.

A stone that summons two monsters that are 8 levels above you!?

Everlasting Summons!?

Everlasting Salvage!?

What are you SMOKING!?!?!?!

You don't even need to use regular summons, and you want to make easy pve even easier!?!?!?!

/Notsigned times a gagillion.

nonononononononononononononononononononononononono

You have some type of everlasting obsession......sometimes it's good for things to run out...
/not signed

The everlasting salavage kits and id kits looks fun but way overpowered. Never have to buy the normal ones for 500g-2k.

Also, those arent titans, those are demonic servants of abaddon, or demons.

I like your ideas
especially the destroyer summoning stone
that'd be sick to fight along side them

how a about a everlasting lockpick?

just put all rare pets in it too. Since they are 10000ecto that makes no sense...

/notsigned for kits and lockpick.
I will sign for anything that doesnt mess up PvP either, even though I don't play it, you must be reasonable. The everlastings would be cool, but not really needed. The minipet bag is also unsigned for. Minipets are a good flow of currency, especially 3rd Years and 4th Years. The everlasting lockpicks and kits are definatly bad, as most gold sinks are from these items. The everlasting stones would be cool, but it is another good sink and would make it too overpowered. Overall, not signed, this game is ment for an entertaining challenge, not Godmode on the PS2.

The only problem see is the everlast salvage. I think those should not be everlast.

Note:
These comments are on the items, not the cost

Destroyer Summoning Stone - 8 levels above AND 2 of them is OP'd for PvE, more balance less imbalance please... remove first bonus... (add second to all summoning stones)

Everlasting Salvage Kit - yes please

Titan Summoning Stone - Either prevent the lower summons (like Hands/Fists of the Titans) or same level. MUST cause Summoning Sickness. Remove first bonus...

Everlasting Identification Kit - yes please

Everlasting Zaishen Tonic - Linsey has said why they did not add an Everlasting Zaishen Tonic or Everlasting Mysterious Tonic. "Don't get the form you want, rezone and re-use... rather pointless with a random form." - something along those lines. And it makes sense.

Everlasting PvP Priest Tonic - first need a Priest Tonic....

Everlasting Zaishen Summoning Stone - remove that bonus...

Everlasting Destroyer Summoning Stone - Same as Destroyer Summoning Stone, remove that bonus...

Everlasting Titan Summoning Stone - Same as Titan Summoning Stone, remove that bonus...

Lucky Mini Bag - don't think that last option is possible. Instead have a .01% of any of the non-ingame non-birthday minis. And reduce the Zkeys for the .4% as well... 100 zkeys MAX, preferably 50 zkeys. If someone gets that 250 zkeys, the market for them will plumet for the most part, if s/he sells... Also, increase the price. A chance to get a year 4 on a not even year 1 character is worth more than 10 gold coins imo.

I have nothing against new items that share the same principles of others.

But the costs need to change, and you're changing how items work, NO WAY to that *cough summoning stones cough*. I was tempted to respond like ajc2123, but I went kind.

If you want to add game-breaking items, make them worth a LOT more. I mean a LOT.

Make PvE a little harder, with PvE-only skills and summoning stones, if you don't h/h everything, it's really easy. The "squishy" sin profession of mine - no perma sf - has been my title character and has been breezing through 90% of PvE, Normal and Hard Mode. Again, no use of shadow form for the stuff.

I don't like the idea of everlasting summoning stones, ID kits, and salvage kits. What we have right now is fine.

Also no to a PvP tonic.

Lucky Mini Bag is a neat idea. A Lucky Everlasting Tonic Bag would work better than a Zaishen Everlasting Tonic.

I hate having to store 4 super salvage kits/ID. Keep buying them when you run out.

No PvP tonic? Is it because... no? Size won't matter... If you going to QQ about size, then say hello to rainbow phoenix. (BTW, he doesn't like anyone)

I guess I'm removing bonus to.

Err a lot of the penalties such as not being able to use tonics and PvP and summoning sickness are there for a reason. Don't mess with them.

A few good ideas, mainly junk tbh. I do like the salvage kits and the golden LP though, but perhaps reduce the chance on the LP.

Yes, I'm going to put back summoning sickness so you don't spam summons each time one dies.

For a 2 minute RA match? Or a 5 minute HA match? IDK...

gold sinks are good... Keeps people from being billionaires all the time...

Size is why they (live team) didn't allow M.O.X. to be in PvP - along with inablity to show the weapon *which some tonics cause*.

It's because unless you can somehow manage to play at 100% effectiveness while spamming tab constantly, how a person looks, what weapons they are using, and their animations (all change when in a tonic) help identify what is going on. This is why tonics are disabled in PvP.

Otherwise I like most of them if you fix them as suggested, except for the everlasting kits, I don't like those.

Fixed, just as you said that, reminds me of the SF buff, 1/2 the people hated it 1/2 the people don't.

The armour stuff shouldn't have too high a cost, otherwise not many peopel would bother, I know I sure as hell wouldn't. Unless it was a pair of wings...I'd go up to 80 gold coins for them.

i like the idea of more items but the everlasting salvage kits and id kits i dont care for those or the everlasting summoning stones. the reason on the stones its hard to remember to use the ones i got before they become so stacked. and the kits and id kits i just dont think there should be an everlasting of those maybe an even bigger pack then what you can get but not an everlasting ones

50 gold Zcoins is a price waaaaay high considering how slow to get they are doing only the two PvE quests every day, and your prices go faaaaaaaar beyond any scale.

The only one of your prices that is correct is the Miniature egg.

WTS Large Equipment pack 45e

It's been 2 weeks and someone has already got the most expensive thing.

Some of us don't want to compete with no-lifers for rewards.

No PvP Tonics.

Actually, the Everlasting Fireworks Crate(50 gold) is the most expensive in coin cost. Large Equip Packs are less than 1/3 of that at 15 gold Zoins.

Heavy Equipment pack isn't the most expensive thing...

Everlasting Crates of Fireworks are... fool.

Damn, your right, fixed!

+1 gagillion times lol

Use for weird collectables was a good idea,but as mentioned it should be accessable to someone who doesn't spend their life waiting for the last minute until the zquests change so they can grind it on 12 chars. +1 for wings again.

Added wings, the only item that needs 3 campaigns.
Lowered price of... everything.
Also, the collectors items has no... collectors? So why not make them.

WTS Dark Claw! Only Dragon Liches drop them and there is only 2 in the entire game! Plus it costs 1k to get there! 5k!

Money drop

Also: Doing some math,
To get a everlasting skeleton army you will need 25 gold coins (250 silver) and 1500 limbs (250x5+250)... That would be... awesome. It's the only item that you can get without doing a single zquest, by buying stones off players.

/signed

For all, with a bit of tweaking for the actual values, except for the Everlasting Items. Guild Wars does need some more gold sinks.