http://www.guildwars.com/images/game...board_full.jpg
Pretty good how their screenshots show guilds
... from 6 months ago.
6 months to do simple webapps that should take one person 1-2 days. Pretty good.
Showing how long it takes for ArenaNet to do simple updates
lutz
BrettM
You have access to their timesheets, of course, so you KNOW for a fact that six months were spent on this. It is not possible that someone took the screenshot six months ago while discussing making changes, the project sat in the queue until it became a priority, and then someone spent, oh, say 1-2 days actually implementing it. Not possible at all. Right.
Edit: And, of course, it is absolutely silly to think that they would want to coordinate this change with the other XTH changes in the game (which likely took more than 1-2 days), so a job that was done six months ago was not put into production until the other changes were ready to roll out. What a completely ridiculous idea.
Edit: And, of course, it is absolutely silly to think that they would want to coordinate this change with the other XTH changes in the game (which likely took more than 1-2 days), so a job that was done six months ago was not put into production until the other changes were ready to roll out. What a completely ridiculous idea.
Hi I'm Regem
brett i doubt anet knows when things become a priority. They updated the xunlai rewards section of their site instead of a skill update.
Cacheelma
I hope you get something out of that BrettM, not just dirty nose.
turbo234
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Originally Posted by Hi I'm Regem
brett i doubt anet knows when things become a priority. They updated the xunlai rewards section of their site instead of a skill update.
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CronkTheImpaler
Skill updates next week.
secondly when did the average GW tool become experts on all things A-Net? You know jack squat, lets leave it at that.
Cronk
secondly when did the average GW tool become experts on all things A-Net? You know jack squat, lets leave it at that.
Cronk
Wish Swiftdeath
Which will have more QQing about Anet's inadequacy about the crappy update.
lutz
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Skill updates next week.
secondly when did the average GW tool become experts on all things A-Net? You know jack squat, lets leave it at that. Cronk |
thedarkmarine
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I'm pretty sure common sense is a good thing to have.
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CronkTheImpaler
Common sense is VERY uncommon now days! you can take that to the bank.
Cronk
Cronk
lutz
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Originally Posted by thedarkmarine
Common sense cannot replace ignorance.
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Common sense (combined with some kind of technology-related factual intelligence) can answer this question for you.
In case you're absolutely retarded, the answer is: no, it doesn't.
CronkTheImpaler
Reduced to name calling. The ultimate sign of maturity.
as for what A-Net does and when they do it. Again i dont think anyone but those that work for A-Net can answer that. Time and time again people assume they know what the priorities of A-Net are.
You call people retarded because you know how the inner workings of A-Net. Unless you can reference someone you have spoken to at A-Net, and they have told you exactly what they are doing how can you possibly claim to know? much less call people retarded which is the height of immaturity. either way do and say as you wish, its your dime.
I just get a kick out of all these people that seem to know more then the people that actually make the decisions.
Cronk
as for what A-Net does and when they do it. Again i dont think anyone but those that work for A-Net can answer that. Time and time again people assume they know what the priorities of A-Net are.
You call people retarded because you know how the inner workings of A-Net. Unless you can reference someone you have spoken to at A-Net, and they have told you exactly what they are doing how can you possibly claim to know? much less call people retarded which is the height of immaturity. either way do and say as you wish, its your dime.
I just get a kick out of all these people that seem to know more then the people that actually make the decisions.
Cronk
Kook~NBK~
Step 1: Update your resume
Step 2: Compose a cover letter
Step 3: Mail to Human Resources @ Arena net
Step 4: Get hired
Step 5: Move to Washington & go to work
Step 6: Single-handedly fix every bug in the game, perfect the XTH system, AND sort out a good skill balance. (You have until June 4th)
Step 2: Compose a cover letter
Step 3: Mail to Human Resources @ Arena net
Step 4: Get hired
Step 5: Move to Washington & go to work
Step 6: Single-handedly fix every bug in the game, perfect the XTH system, AND sort out a good skill balance. (You have until June 4th)
FoxBat
Last ridiculous thread like this was started by the same person... there's getting on the Anet bashing bandwagon, and then there's nitpicking silly.
CronkTheImpaler
Foxbat= wisdom.
all things being equal A-Net has enough to do i guess. people will always and forever find things to piss and moan about. im sure i could find something to bitch about BUT whats the point? i dont work there and they dont give two hoots what i think. Why should they?
Cronk
all things being equal A-Net has enough to do i guess. people will always and forever find things to piss and moan about. im sure i could find something to bitch about BUT whats the point? i dont work there and they dont give two hoots what i think. Why should they?
Cronk
Konig Des Todes
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brett i doubt anet knows when things become a priority. They updated the xunlai rewards section of their site instead of a skill update.
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But who cares if things are done slowly, the webdesigners may be busy with other things, with other games within NCsoft, who knows. Do you? Nope. For to know would be to know more than you should, and life as a whole is on a need to know basis, and if you knew more than you should known on a need to know basis you will create a paradox and all of life shall be destroyed by you unwillingness to be and stay ignorant. Why would you want that? Why would you want intelligence when ignorence is bliss?
Wish Swiftdeath
I've not actually gone on forums when high, maybe i should try it
Konig Des Todes
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I've not actually gone on forums when high, maybe i should try it
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I smoke life and stress, you should try it. Just overwhelm yourself with work then snap, and go onto a forum that you think is full of idiots with a 10% smart/decently intelligent population base and post what you think at the moment, that way you are true to yourself and will become enlightened and through becoming enlightened you become unstressed. It is far more effective to be yourself and not care about things than to try to not stress out because then you will become stressed out and your work will be for nothing!
Gli
You know, I've worked on database applications occasionally. For existing systems, development and testing always happened on back-ups of operational environments. I don't see how one could conclude anything about the development time from that screenshot.
Gwmaster
wut? abcs
lutz
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You know, I've worked on database applications occasionally. For existing systems, development and testing always happened on back-ups of operational environments. I don't see how one could conclude anything about the development time from that screenshot.
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Konig Des Todes
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This man wins the thread.
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Yarly
Who cares.. Its out, get over it maybe?
psycore
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Originally Posted by Gli
You know, I've worked on database applications occasionally. For existing systems, development and testing always happened on back-ups of operational environments. I don't see how one could conclude anything about the development time from that screenshot.
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Fril Estelin
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6 months to do simple webapps that should take one person 1-2 days.
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Year 1 (gentle introduction): The science of talking; General gibberish principles of programming; labs about typing posts on fansites (level 1: general trolling)
Year 2 (it gets tough now): The meaning behind words; what a programmer looks like and what's his job, roughly speaking; labs about typing posts on fansites (level 2: how to look like a dev)
Year 3 (the final chapter): How to make an impression; What technical terms to use to impress people; the advanced stuff for the dummies; labs about typing posts on fansites (level 3: <3 Linsey)
With people like you at Bellevue, GW1 would be perfect and we wouldn't need GW2!
EDIT: P.S.: makeShinyLoginButton FTW
Still Number One
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You know, I've worked on database applications occasionally. For existing systems, development and testing always happened on back-ups of operational environments. I don't see how one could conclude anything about the development time from that screenshot.
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The Sup players have not qualified for an mAT in [Sup] for quite some time now, and some of them have even left the game. Honor Police [GWPD], I believe was created after the banning of their previous guild because of an inappropriate name Come Honor [Face], which by the way I'm pretty sure Lutz/Protoss was a part of (if not GWPD he was in face), which would obviously make him a very good source for pin pointing how long ago this was.
Now what you want to make of that is your call and quite frankly I don't care if they started this 6 months ago, 12 months ago, or 2 days ago. It is here now and that is that.
If one wants to make conspiracy theorys on how anet takes forever to finish what they start, they are more than welcome to. If you don't agree with it, then ignore them and move on.
But yea, point of this whole post is to tell you how you can conclude something about the development time from that post. The fact that some of the guilds being used existed months ago and don't now.
BrettM
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You can tell a minimum of how long ago they started working on the program simply by looking at which guilds are being randomly generated into that screens top 8.
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The display iof flying leaps of illogic based on a screenshot in this thread are making me think I've wandered into a convention of people wearing tin foil hats. Look! Visual proof that shows ANet must have killed JFK!
Apollo Smile
The Xunlai house upgrade has been a project for some time for Emily Diehl and the rest of the web people at ArenaNet. Just keep in mind they work on all other aspects of the website along with the wiki as well.
CronkTheImpaler
So the existance of a screen grab is proof that they have been working on this non stop? i just dont understand how anyone can draw that conclusion.
Cronk
Cronk
Wish Swiftdeath
While i don't agree with the thread I can understand that protoss is upset with anet.
Guild Wars boring > gets upset>goes on forums>nothing happens>???
Edit: LOL http://www.gwstrat.com/forums/index.php
Guild Wars boring > gets upset>goes on forums>nothing happens>???
Edit: LOL http://www.gwstrat.com/forums/index.php
w00t!
The inability of most people to understand basic systems development principles continues to astonish me.
Remember that: #of things to fix or add > amount of development time available
Therefore, things are often proposed months/years before they are prioritized for development. Just because a RDD is created doesn't mean that anyone is actually going to develop it, EVER. And if it is, it may be months later. Ergo, the requirements for this change were probably created months ago.
Remember that: #of things to fix or add > amount of development time available
Therefore, things are often proposed months/years before they are prioritized for development. Just because a RDD is created doesn't mean that anyone is actually going to develop it, EVER. And if it is, it may be months later. Ergo, the requirements for this change were probably created months ago.
Back then
the fanboing in this thread is making me queasy.
Anet is definitely slacking on GW1 lately... stop denying that. Hopefully the reason is because they're devoting most of their attention to GW2, and not that they're understaffed (which is a very good way to kill a project).
I'm not complaining but stop kissing so much butt. I don't even know what the xunlai tournament is nor do I care, but 6months for a web app is definitely a little ridiculous.
Anet is definitely slacking on GW1 lately... stop denying that. Hopefully the reason is because they're devoting most of their attention to GW2, and not that they're understaffed (which is a very good way to kill a project).
I'm not complaining but stop kissing so much butt. I don't even know what the xunlai tournament is nor do I care, but 6months for a web app is definitely a little ridiculous.
fenix
Bad trolls trolling bad trolls trolling pvers who for some reason don't realise that ANet have been developing this for 6 months.
No.
No.