New Type of Scam: Nicholas Gifts

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angela faye
Krytan Explorer
#1
Today, a monk was trying to scam ppl with Nicholas gifts from pre in Great Temple Am d1. He put his ad as "WTS Nicholas gifts 5k/each". Since this is in post, so 99% ppl would think that gift means gifts of the traveler. So did I, I was getting my z-quest reward atm and saw his ad, thought 5k/each is a good deal cuz most ppl buy and sell them for 7-8k/each. Then..............

This screen shoot will tell you what happened next:



Good thing is I have played in pre for almost a year and knew those gifts the first day they were introduced into pre, so obviously I wont fall into his trap...


But for those ppl who don't, please be aware of these new kind of gifts scam!


Interesting thing is that monk still insist that that's not scam cuz he can sell his stuff for whatever price he want...
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Nochtflamir
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
lol...white vs green, easy catch, unless you aren't paying attention, then you deserve to get ripped off...people been trying this since Nicholas appeared in post though.
MisterB
MisterB
Furnace Stoker
#3
This is not new. Scammers have done this ever since Nicholas went post. Technically, they can claim it's not a scam. They do in fact offer gifts from Nicholas. People just need to read.
exploiter
exploiter
Jungle Guide
#4
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Originally Posted by angela faye View Post
Since this is in post, so 99% ppl would think that gift means gifts of the traveler.
lawl people would think...nothing reportable, hes not saying they are traveler
thedarkmarine
thedarkmarine
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
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Originally Posted by Nochtflamir View Post
lol...white vs green, easy catch, unless you aren't paying attention, then you deserve to get ripped off...people been trying this since Nicholas appeared in post though.
Casuals deserve to be scammed?
take_me
take_me
Furnace Stoker
#6
Been going on for weeks.
Many sellers even advertise with WTS Gifts of the HUNTSMAN 5k/each, but seems like people don't read careful enough and just see the "WTS Gifts for 5k/each"-part.
HawkofStorms
HawkofStorms
Hall Hero
#7
Heck, its not even Casuals who are being scammed. Its anybody who hasn't been in pre in the last year. If you made your Prophecies characters 3 years ago, you don't know anything about the presearing gifts since its a relatively new thing.
Mr.Kotte
Mr.Kotte
Wilds Pathfinder
#8
Way to fail at crossing out names. Good find though.
Earth
Earth
Always Outnumbered
#9
How is this a scam?

If he would say "selling gifts of the traveler", then sure, it would be a scam. But he's not saying that. He is in fact not specifying what gifts he is selling, so saying this is a scam is wrong.
Abedeus
Abedeus
Grotto Attendant
#10
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Originally Posted by Earth View Post
How is this a scam?

If he would say "selling gifts of the traveler", then sure, it would be a scam. But he's not saying that. He is in fact not specifying what gifts he is selling, so saying this is a scam is wrong.
It's worse than Frozen Ectoplasm scam. Because both Gifts start with "Gift of the", both look the same, only colors are a bit different.
Earth
Earth
Always Outnumbered
#11
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Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
It's worse than Frozen Ectoplasm scam. Because both Gifts start with "Gift of the", both look the same, only colors are a bit different.
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#12
Gifts really could use a bit different item icon.
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#13
He said he's selling Nicholas gifts, and he's selling Nicholas gifts. Where's the scam here?
tadevil
tadevil
Academy Page
#14
Sorry for off topic but I lol'd when I saw the screenshot, trying to cover up your name and the traders name and missing places, both names are still perfectly visible.

Back on topic anyway, the gifts are a different colour this scam is poor and a failcopter that's already crashed and burned.
Fril Estelin
Fril Estelin
So Serious...
#15
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Originally Posted by Earth View Post
How is this a scam?

If he would say "selling gifts of the traveler", then sure, it would be a scam. But he's not saying that. He is in fact not specifying what gifts he is selling, so saying this is a scam is wrong.
A pre gift sold at 5k in GtoB is a scam, because these gifts are definitely not worth 5k (see rewards). The guy is obviously trying to exploit the fact that the name sounds similar and even the appearance is similar if you look too quickly. And these gifts are quite "fashionable".

Scamming is more an intent than an illegal action (some email scams are perfectly legit, but it's a subtle play on words). I have little doubt that the guy is in GtoB from per with these gifts at a price exactly below the price of the post gifts just by mistake.
exploiter
exploiter
Jungle Guide
#16
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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
A pre gift sold at 5k in GtoB is a scam, because these gifts are definitely not worth 5k
overpricing =/= scamming
would you consider running CoF for 3k when the usual price is 2k scamming?
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enter_the_zone
Jungle Guide
#17
Bah, that's scamming, but at least it's stupid scamming. Guy yesterday tried the old : cancel, cancel, "oop's full", storage, offer 10k instead of 100k scam. So I just cancelled. Bear in mind, I was partaking of what I call Drunken Guildwars, which involves being utterly, motherlessly smash drunk while playing. Seriously, if you fall for that shite it's more or less your own fault, not that I don't sympathise or would ever try something like it. Hell, "powertrading" is little better than scamming to me, though many disagree, as is their right.

I got "scammed" for a whole 3k the other day by some douchebag "running" the charged blackness quest. 1) I made him use the essence before I paid, and 2) that was char 1 of 9 I wanted to get run. Way I see it, nice way to screw yourself.

On the flip side, got an awesome run of SoO today, though the runner was getting annoyed with his lag resulting in dying a total of about 7 times, 5 at Fendi. As I say, you should see me run CoF...there's a reason I don't take passengers
BadgerznPie
BadgerznPie
Academy Page
#18
Meh. It's pretty obvious to me even though I haven't been to pre in a while. But if it gets bad, they could change the text of the post gifts to green. Although I actually wonder if that would be enough...
Ariena Najea
Ariena Najea
Silence and Motion
#19
I have personally come across sellers who are claiming to be selling Gifts of the Traveler, but will put up Gifts of the Huntsman in trade. This is a scam, while someone offering the pre Gifts with a WTS Gifts 5k is not.

This type of scam has been around for... long before I started playing
BenjZee
BenjZee
Forge Runner
#20
The point is, it avoids being a scam by saying NICHOLAS GIFT..which could mean either of them. Otherwise they could just say they were sellin travellet gifts for 5k each