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Raudic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

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19 May 2009 at 02:32 - 1

im just saying ahead of time, im probably going to get flamed...

but anywhoosle, if armor was tradeable, and could be worn by any character i think it could really help the elitist economy in guild wars (or possibly make it worse)

to make this efficient though, there would have to be bonus stats on armor (somewhat like the non-inscribable weps in proph and factions) and the armor would have to be dropped by monsters, but only bosses or at the end of a storyline or for maxing a title

FLAME AWAY!! but dont if you think this is a good idea

EDIT: just was reminded of this, all armor aquired this way would have a lvl 20 req or a title req or somthing

kontradictions

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/Mo

19 May 2009 at 02:37 - 2

It does sound like a good idea but the impact on the GW economy would be huge. Lol.

Raudic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

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19 May 2009 at 02:41 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by kontradictions

It does sound like a good idea but the impact on the GW economy would be huge. Lol.

thats what exactly what this is for, hopefully for the better

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

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19 May 2009 at 03:04 - 4

So you want a level 1 character that is only 10 minutes old to have access to Obsidian armor by buying it from someone else? No thanks. There are several reasons why armor can't be traded, and economy is not one of the major ones.

Lux Aeterna

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2009

RAH

Close Enough [XVII]

W/A

19 May 2009 at 03:15 - 5

Had this in another game once, it was great because I could hand out sets of my homemade awesome armor to newbies.

The armor crafting system is something I've never really liked about GW.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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19 May 2009 at 04:02 - 6

How about we not destroy core elements of the game? Thanks.

Dogz_The_Black

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2008

United Vanguard [UV]

Mo/E

19 May 2009 at 04:16 - 7

I dont really like the idea of monsters dropping armor, but to add on to your idea of players trading armor, anet can also add a customizable factor (like weapons) that add a small % boost in defense at the cost of not being allowed to trade that armor between players.

kontradictions

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/Mo

19 May 2009 at 04:26 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

So you want a level 1 character that is only 10 minutes old to have access to Obsidian armor by buying it from someone else? No thanks. There are several reasons why armor can't be traded, and economy is not one of the major ones.

Good point.

I never really looked at it that way but Elite Armor should be something that's earned rather than something obtained by simply throwing money at it.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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19 May 2009 at 07:09 - 9

I will NOT wear second hand armor!

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

19 May 2009 at 07:11 - 10

/notsigned

I'm happy with the current system, and don't want to see it changed.

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

19 May 2009 at 08:11 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduinna

I will NOT wear second hand armor!

Lol, rofl and lmao

But to stay on topic; big failure. Elite armor should be someonething that isnt to easy to achieve (though I hate needing to play my chars true all games cause of some armor

) If you regret buying the armor salvage it.
Would be quite weird if a Size 10 monk with a fat belly could wear my size one armor.. Isnt armor customized, cause it is specially made for your char, and therefor doesnt fit anywhere else. Or they should make armor depending on length and sex and prof and remake their system..

WTS Elite Sunspear Armor, Monk, Female, Length: 1,65 cm. 10k a part. PM ME!

But o wait, thats too much effort for such stupid idea..

Alexandria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sweden

We Fail [inRL]

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19 May 2009 at 08:16 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

So you want a level 1 character that is only 10 minutes old to have access to Obsidian armor by buying it from someone else? No thanks. There are several reasons why armor can't be traded, and economy is not one of the major ones.

So there's a difference between that and someone getting rushed through Prophecies and getting Obsidian armor at say level 14? The latter is already going on and I have gotten several armors this way. What's the big deal?

I am totally for this.
/signed

Dre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Belgium

Dutch Doom Brigade

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19 May 2009 at 08:25 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

So you want a level 1 character that is only 10 minutes old to have access to Obsidian armor by buying it from someone else? No thanks. There are several reasons why armor can't be traded, and economy is not one of the major ones.

i've already seen low-lvl players (lvl 4~5) wearing FoW armor

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

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Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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19 May 2009 at 13:01 - 14

Would make getting eotn armors easier, but they alrdy arent very hard so im gonna have to pass on this one.

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

19 May 2009 at 13:14 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

So you want a level 1 character that is only 10 minutes old to have access to Obsidian armor by buying it from someone else? No thanks. There are several reasons why armor can't be traded, and economy is not one of the major ones.

This has nothing to do with anything.

When you get certain armor is no longer a an issue in most cases. There are characters as low as level 13 running around with obsidian armor these days, and you can get run to all prophecies elite armors.

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

19 May 2009 at 13:21 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

So you want a level 1 character that is only 10 minutes old to have access to Obsidian armor by buying it from someone else? No thanks. There are several reasons why armor can't be traded, and economy is not one of the major ones.

^delivers
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kontradictions

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/Mo

19 May 2009 at 13:31 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raccoon

This has nothing to do with anything.

When you get certain armor is no longer a an issue in most cases. There are characters as low as level 13 running around with obsidian armor these days, and you can get run to all prophecies elite armors.

You're missing the point.

Yes, there are characters that are < level 20 running around with elite armor but think of what they had to go through in order to achieve that - they would still have to work for it.

Because of this, only the people who made the effort to run out and earn the armor before level 20 have them. With what the OP proposed, anyone that has access to some money will have level 1 characters with elite armor.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

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wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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19 May 2009 at 13:52 - 18

That won't help economy.

Armors are a gold sink. It's cash you spend and no one gets back again.

Gold sinks help game economies by making those with more cash spend more.

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

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19 May 2009 at 14:04 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

That won't help economy.

Armors are a gold sink. It's cash you spend and no one gets back again.

Gold sinks help game economies by making those with more cash spend more.

this.

lol lvl characters with max armor is completely irrelevant. u lvl up to 20 so fast in this game, it wouldn't even matter for the most part.

and ur idea doesn't seem very clear cut. u want armors to be tradable or to drop or what? please clarify

Archress Shayleigh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2009

Guild Hall

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19 May 2009 at 14:11 - 20

/notsigned
Because the armor system GW has now is nice, and it would be unfair for low lvls to have high-end or max armor in starter areas. Yes, I know you can get runs, and still, this system means armor = work work work. By your system, it's armor = cash cash cash unless you guys are the type of people who buy the materials for their armor....

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

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19 May 2009 at 16:54 - 21

/flame RED ENGINE
Gold sinks are absolutelly necessary in GW. U will remove them and the geme economy is gone.

Marvel-Kid

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

Across the street from Grenth

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19 May 2009 at 17:30 - 22

I think it would be a great improvement for armor switching. Say...you have chaos gloves on your mesmer....and hate playing mesmer after a while and want chaos gloves on your ele, or monk....but don't have the money... If you could just pop it in your storage and hand it over to your other char...that would be awesome.

There MUST be a limit though. I think you should NEED to have Rank 5 Deldrimor and be level 20 before that character may use them. And as for Obi armor, the character you want obi armor with MUST have completed FoW at least once.

I believe you should not be able to hand over armor to other people (trade/sell/buy) I think it should only be account based.

/sign

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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19 May 2009 at 21:14 - 23

/notsigned
GW has one of the most forgiving armor/weapon systems ever. Most MMOs bind equipment to you the moment your character equips it or picks it up off the ground. You don't know how good you already have it.

Raudic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

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19 May 2009 at 21:15 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvel-Kid

I think it would be a great improvement for armor switching. Say...you have chaos gloves on your mesmer....and hate playing mesmer after a while and want chaos gloves on your ele, or monk....but don't have the money... If you could just pop it in your storage and hand it over to your other char...that would be awesome.

There MUST be a limit though. I think you should NEED to have Rank 5 Deldrimor and be level 20 before that character may use them. And as for Obi armor, the character you want obi armor with MUST have completed FoW at least once.

I believe you should not be able to hand over armor to other people (trade/sell/buy) I think it should only be account based.

/sign

thois is what im trying to say, no one is reading that you have to be lvl 20 or have certain title as i revised on my original post

kontradictions

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/Mo

19 May 2009 at 21:20 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raudic

thois is what im trying to say, no one is reading that you have to be lvl 20 or have certain title as i revised on my original post

What you're trying to say in this post and what you were trying to say in the original post are two different things.

In the original post, you were suggesting that elite armor should be trade-able. Meaning the armor could be worn by characters from a different account, thus opening a market for armor sales.

Here, you're saying that armor should be allowed to be transferred from one character to another within the same account. Even though the pieces of armor can be transferred, they cannot be transferred from account to account. Because of this, people won't be selling elite armor.

Brawn Over Brains

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

England

X Devils Rejects X

W/Mo

19 May 2009 at 21:37 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

So you want a level 1 character that is only 10 minutes old to have access to Obsidian armor by buying it from someone else? No thanks. There are several reasons why armor can't be traded, and economy is not one of the major ones.

Did you even bother to read his post?
End Game/Monster Drop.
Lv 20 Req.

kontradictions

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/Mo

19 May 2009 at 21:47 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brawn Over Brains

Did you even bother to read his post?
End Game/Monster Drop.
Lv 20 Req.

Did you check the time and date MagmaRed posted and the time and date OP edited his post?

Brains Over Jumping to Conclusions

Sub-Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

[VILE]

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20 May 2009 at 03:05 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by kontradictions

You're missing the point.

Yes, there are characters that are < level 20 running around with elite armor but think of what they had to go through in order to achieve that - they would still have to work for it.

Because of this, only the people who made the effort to run out and earn the armor before level 20 have them. With what the OP proposed, anyone that has access to some money will have level 1 characters with elite armor.

If a level 1 char has money to buy Fow in the first place. Obviously they have another char that they use to make money -.-

Fow armor is already extremely expensive, if it were tradeble the price wouldn't go down

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

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20 May 2009 at 03:27 - 29

No. Armor is NPC-crafted only so that the price is at least somewhat constant, a rarity in this game. If armor were player-crafted and sellable, prices would fluctuate as greatly as they do on any other commodity. I can't see how this is good for players trying to acquire nice sets of elite armor.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

20 May 2009 at 03:32 - 30

I like the idea of being able to turn in armour to a crafter for a full gold and material return. Be nice to be able to change stuff like that.

I don't like trading armour idea.

Naphtali

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

Sweden

20 May 2009 at 04:27 - 31

The current system is fine.
The only change I would support is if you had to re-customize it at a crafter that make that exact armor for the original gold cost.

If someone sold you an obsidian armor, you'd actually have to go to the forgemaster and shell out 15k per piece. It would still have to be profession specific, of course.

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

20 May 2009 at 05:12 - 32

Like some people said, it'll be too easy to obtain high end armor early in the game.
Sorry bubs,
/notsigned

Marvel-Kid

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

Across the street from Grenth

The Tasty Teabag [tea]

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20 May 2009 at 14:15 - 33

Guys, forget your pride! For what do you have to be proud of? If YOU have the money and want elite armor for another character (e.g. warrior) you cannot get to because it's to hard, you should be able to transfer the armor to your other character you want the armor for. This should only be account based. Not trade-able to account to account (or other people to other people. And if it were tradable, even so....armor cost WOULD NOT change. Have you EVER gotten elite armor that isn't 15K a piece? Of course not (unless its EotN) Prices of armor don't change as does mats...
/signed

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

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20 May 2009 at 14:40 - 34

/notsigned

While I do like the idea, it will have too much impact on the game and the virtual economy.

kontradictions

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/Mo

21 May 2009 at 01:48 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvel-Kid

... If YOU have the money and want elite armor for another character (e.g. warrior) you cannot get to because it's to hard...

Not a legitimate reason.

Sub-Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

[VILE]

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21 May 2009 at 02:32 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameshoes3003

Like some people said, it'll be too easy to obtain high end armor early in the game.
Sorry bubs,
/notsigned

If they pay the money for it i dont see why not.

Especially if a player bought his fow armor for 800k i highly doubt he will sell it for 2k to a lvl 1 char. It would be easy for those who have the money and if they have that much money they obviously have another char they use

Marvel-Kid

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

Across the street from Grenth

The Tasty Teabag [tea]

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22 May 2009 at 23:23 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub-Zero

If they pay the money for it i dont see why not.

Especially if a player bought his fow armor for 800k i highly doubt he will sell it for 2k to a lvl 1 char. It would be easy for those who have the money and if they have that much money they obviously have another char they use

Exactly! This is why I think it's an awesome idea that will pass for GW and GW 2. I do not however like that armor can be traded acc wise. This gives hackers a MUCH easier way of making money. Also I think that they should have 2 passwords instead of 1, that way you definitely can't get hacked...in fact.....ima make a new thread

Raudic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

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23 May 2009 at 00:37 - 38

its not like it wouldnt be an accomplishment to get 15k armor. a whole set would probably be sold for more than it was paid for because the person buying it was probably doing so because they didnt have access to it. and to have enough money to buy they must have accomplished something important.

so dont say it would be too easy to get elite armor

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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23 May 2009 at 16:19 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raudic

its not like it wouldnt be an accomplishment to get 15k armor. a whole set would probably be sold for more than it was paid for because the person buying it was probably doing so because they didnt have access to it. and to have enough money to buy they must have accomplished something important.

so dont say it would be too easy to get elite armor

Like... create a warrior in Faction, level up to 20 in 6 hours and farm vermin until getting 100k.
It may not be the best farm, but it still gets 2..10k per run in NM, and celestial items drop in the Skyway.

Marvel-Kid

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

Across the street from Grenth

The Tasty Teabag [tea]

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25 May 2009 at 19:45 - 40

The part I especially like, is that you can sell armor for full price+materials.