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What can't you H/H?

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Jeydra
Forge Runner
• #1
Outside of the UW / FoW / DoA / any other areas I might not have thought of where you don't get any henchmen, are there any areas which you have not been able to complete with H/H? Any vanquish, mission, dungeon? What about if we exclude consumables and titles as well?

Just curious ...
Teknikaali
Teknikaali
Frost Gate Guardian
• #2
Urgoz / The Deep, no henchmen there
jonnieboi05
jonnieboi05
Forge Runner
• #3
out of experience i can answer your question with the following answer: anywhere in GW that has henchman-capabalities, you can hero and hench.



~LeNa~
kupp
kupp
Jungle Guide
• #4
Yeah pretty much possible to H/H everything where they're allowed to enter, including SF and Dungeons HM. Hell according to the wiki, even slaver's is H/H'able in HM even though I have no idea how, NM in there is already nightmarish in there.

edit: I'll make an exception, I have my doubts that The Eternal Grove is doable in HM with the masters reward due to the shear dificulty of that mission.
Smurf Minions
Smurf Minions
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #5
Quote: Originally Posted by kupp View Post
Yeah pretty much possible to H/H everything where they're allowed to enter, including SF and Dungeons HM. Hell according to the wiki, even slaver's is H/H'able in HM even though I have no idea how, NM in there is already nightmarish in there.

edit: I'll make an exception, I have my doubts that The Eternal Grove is doable in HM with the masters reward due to the shear dificulty of that mission. did it on HM yesterday, piece of cake. Flagging the 2 monk henchman and the domination and cynn on the south. Placing you and youre hero north. The hench will take care of their part, only thing you should watch is getting rid of the turtles in the time that there are no enemies at your side. Did it without any comsumbles or whatever.

Well maybe areas in the vortex may be proven a challenge on HM. There is a quest there that i think is impossible to H/H (some master quest).
jonnieboi05
jonnieboi05
Forge Runner
• #6
actually i take that back as well. the ONLY exception i can think of is eternal grove HM. i don't think it's possible (without cons) to get masters reward with heroes and hench without some very serious attention/micro'ing involved.



~LeNa~
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Aciid Bu5t0r
Academy Page
• #7
stuff i could not complete without the help of other people:
-vanquishing Rotwing
-completing destruction depths HM (with cyndrr)
-completing shards of orr HM (however i believe it would have been do-able if i had a conset and DP-removal)
-completing vloxen excavations HM (that one is such a bitch)
-eternal grove HM

some dungeons i didn't bother to try and hench them since there were other people who wanted to come along (for example rragar's and kathandrax). i don't know if these are easily henched or not
Engage
Engage
Indeed
• #8
I actually managed to get Eternal Grove done in HM with H/H, and no consumables. It was not easy though! Major pain in the behind. I know others who have done it as well.

Vloxen wasn't really bad at all in HM, well, imo. There are some groups that are a pain, but with a little patience, it went fine.

Frostmaw & Vloxen in HM w/ H/H and no tangibles (Scroll down for Vloxen)
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JONO51
Wilds Pathfinder
• #9
the only things i can think of would be eternal grove HM and and vloxen HM. I have a few dungeons left and most of elona and 80% of tyria left to vq though (i did h/h rotscale though which was fun lol)
Pleikki
Pleikki
WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!
• #10
Quote: Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
actually i take that back as well. the ONLY exception i can think of is eternal grove HM. i don't think it's possible (without cons) to get masters reward with heroes and hench without some very serious attention/micro'ing involved.



~LeNa~ i did it without cons or microing, H/h masters HM, failed few times but managed do it.
Shayne Hawke
Shayne Hawke
Departed from Tyria
• #11
Eternal Grove HM. I wouldn't even consider trying that without two teams.
zelgadissan
zelgadissan
Forge Runner
• #12
I did Eternal Grove HM with H/H, but it took me three tries. I refuse to do it again without a guildie.

I agree with Jonnie's original statement of - if there are henchies, it can be henchied.

Edit: just remembered, I have never done Dzagonur Bastion HM without a guildie. I think I similarly tried that a couple times and said f-it, remembering my Eternal Grove days.
Skyy High
Skyy High
Furnace Stoker
• #13
Never done Eternal Grove H/H HM. Apparently it can be done, so maybe next time I'll actually give it a shot.
Soni D
Soni D
Academy Page
• #14
Eternal Grove HM for me. Took me many tries and much planning but i did manage to H/H Dzagonur Bastion HM. Oh and Shards of Orr for some reason...i just seem to fail there...
Marty Silverblade
Marty Silverblade
Administrator
• #15
Dzagonur Bastion is actually not too hard once you know where you should be at what times and can kill quickly. I've yet to try Vloxen HM or Slavers HM.
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Wish Swiftdeath
Desert Nomad
• #16
HM realm of torment is pretty difficult (some of the quests).

Jeydra's getting a lil' obsessed over this xD
Daesu
Daesu
Furnace Stoker
• #17
It is hard (not impossible) to H/H in missions that require splitting. Heroes also cannot carry special items (e.g. spear and urn, kegs), tend to clump together (victims of powerful AoE attacks) if you dont take flag them properly, and cannot bring powerful PvE skills.

The advantages of heroes are, great reflexes, no lag, doesn't give up and leave you dangling in a mission, predictable, and can work well with synergy builds.

Henchmen are primitive and runeless forms of heroes. Play with someone or a second account to avoid them. Potentially, a good synergized human team with PvE skills is more powerful than a heroes team.
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RadaArashi
Frost Gate Guardian
• #18
I can't do HM Gate of Pain with H/H
Avarre
Avarre
Bubblegum Patrol
• #19
I personally would hate to do Troubled Keeper quest in HM with H/H. Never tried, though!