Churning Earth KD in HM?

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doomfodder
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
This skill doesn't KD in HM. Is this a bug? Or is it that in HM, the foes 33% IMS is considered by game mechanics to be NORMAL speed? HM Foes just flea from it (like most AoE scatter spells) & NEVER EVER KD.

If 33% IMS in HM is considered NORMAL Speed, then IMO the 2nd line of the Skill description should be changed to: "Any foe affected by a non-environmental speed buff when struck Churning Earth is knocked down"

Actual Skill Description:

Spell. Create Churning Earth at target foe's location. For the next 5 seconds, Churning Earth strikes foes near that location for 10...34...40 earth damage each second. Any foe moving faster than normal when struck by Churning Earth is knocked down.
gameshoes3003
gameshoes3003
Forge Runner
#2
That's a good point.
/signed to fixing skill description.
Antares Ascending
Antares Ascending
Wilds Pathfinder
#3
. Simply put, foes moving faster in hard mode than foes in NM is 'normal'
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majikmajikmajik
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
well the +%ims is inherant in HM, so churning by definition wouldnt kd becuz thats how fast the foes normaly move in HM becuz it isnt a speed buff, its a stronger/faster foe by nature eg. level.
Icy The Mage
Icy The Mage
Forge Runner
#5
Are you sure they're just not running out of it before they get hit with the damage? I mean if they run out inbetween the second-delay of each hit of damage, then they won't get KDed

If not and it's just bugged;
/sign
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Karis Sival
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
/signed

never notied this
Puebert
Puebert
Desert Nomad
#7
/signed

Just makes sense, and would keep them in their place longer. =P
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NecroticChanter
Frost Gate Guardian
#8
/signed
so earth eles just lost another good spell. Unsteady grounds it is.
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A11Eur0
Furnace Stoker
#9
it's possible to run out of it, I can run out of it in urgoz under Essence just fine. It does KD if you get hit with it, but I'm pretty good at timing it.

Pretty much they kite when hit by the second round...so the instant the feel that second AoE damage they scatter, and make it out because they're moving fast enough and react fast enough.
Copenhagen Master
Copenhagen Master
Krytan Explorer
#10
/sign

Just seems in HM they move before you ever cast the spell sometimes haha, it is like they know it is coming
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#11
/signed

bugs need to be fixed
MrGuildBoi
MrGuildBoi
Desert Nomad
#12
Uhmmm... according to both wikis, it already causes kd in HM
zelgadissan
zelgadissan
Forge Runner
#13
Been a while since I played my Earth ele in HM to notice, but last time I did they were definitely getting knocked down. I did also have Unsteady Ground on the bar, but I'm almost positive they were both working. Can't get in-game right now to test, though.

Are you sure they're not just running out of it in-between the bursts? If they're standing still for the first shot of it, then run out by the second, they wouldn't ever be knocked down.
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Elephantaliste
Krytan Explorer
#14
You are describing a bug. How did you test it ?

If you are using Churning Earth on moving (or not moving) foes, most of time they will get out of range before the first conditionnal KD would apply (1 sec after casting) due to HM AI.
Enon
Enon
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
Just tested it in Nightfall and it causes KD on HM foes like it always has.

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